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Non-evil undead, like the deathless from Ebberon."Undead" kept going by sheer force of will, because of some great and, in this case, benevolent cause? Something like archliches or baelnorns, maybe?
I'd love to see some undead like this. Something that could fit the idea of eternally loyal mummified paladins guarding the necropolis of a genuinely great pharaoh until the time of his return. Or Crow-ish revenants, minus the Always LE thing and being more the temporarily risen arbiters of justice and/or vengeance.
Some could be beings that just never realized that they're dead. Some willingly took on their new nature, either viewing it as a blessing or a curse, for a good cause. Once that cause is fulfilled, then they can pass on. Or if they lose the will to continue on with their potentially endless duty, or if they lose faith in their cause...
But yeah, non-evil undead representing things like eternal vigilance or loyalty would be cool. Things like spirits watching over and protecting their descendants(or the descendants of those they served).
I imagine looking upon primordial/alien angels would be less like Qlippoths driving people crazy and more like the angels' lack of "calibration" with the local reality causing anything from headaches, seizures, blackouts, synesthesia, or the rare case of spontaneous temporary enlightenment and/or evolution.So more like the original concepts of cherubim and/or seraphim, then?
Yep! For some of them at least. I'd love to see some completely original takes on that concept as well, along with shout-outs to those old school angels.
I'm not really fan of the new kinds of evil outsiders, but a few more azatas and agathions would be great.
I would also apprecitate a few more inevitables and proteans.
But first of all : SHAME ON YOU PAIZO STAFF !!!
You've talked us about the Velvet Wing a long time ago and that's 2 bestiaries without an entry for the vengeance demon. Calistria is not pleased !!
Beware of the lady of vengeance if you don't give us Velvet Wing in the bastiary 4 !!
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More monsters from Celtic, Native american, Japanese, Greek, Norse, Egyptian, Russian, Australian, and South American mythology.
Personally, I'm hoping that we keep seeing creatures from games (particularly Castlevania). I get all giddy every time I see one,such as the alraune, scylla, bloody skeleton variant, etc.
Obviously I know that most of these creatures do not originate from the games, and have much older origins in various mythologies, but nonetheless it's awesome to see creatures we've battled in games so many times grace the pages of a bestiary.
That's why i'm so disappointed to see that Ukobach (from castlevania and one of the adventure paths) didn't made it into bestiary 3!
Ukobach is that small green demon in castlevania who places small fires everywhere, very annoying.
Don't forgget about the Medusa Head as well.
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More monsters from Celtic, Native american, Japanese, Greek, Norse, Egyptian, Russian, Australian, and South American mythology.
I cannot favorite this enough.
Castlevania monsters I would like to see bestiarinized
Some possesed Sword monster (nemesis or Alastor in castlevania)
Fleaman, which can act as Springheel Jack of course
Some animated corpse on a pole much like the scarecrow from castlevania.
The raven-lord man with the huge black wings and many ravens.
Bitterfly, mix of butterfly and skull.
Ectoplasm, a collection of souls grouped together.
Corpseweed, some insane corruption of plant and corpse.
Amphisbaena, at least the version of castlevania, the green monster with the tail as attractive woman, Vouivre looks somewhat like it.
Guillotiner: The strange guillotine-demon thing.
Stolas - The owldemon thing with 6 wings, incredible intelligent.
The batswarm that takes the form of giant bat.
The flying blue mask thingie with 4 or 6 wings.
Lorelei - The giant monster fish with a mermaid-like woman on his face to lure prey with.
Man Eater - The giant skull with worms living in it.
A mirror spirit, demon that lives inside mirrors.
A doll with the soul of a killer inside of it which got killed by electricity or lightning, the doll has lightning abilities.
Those castlevania monsters I actually would like to see in the future.
Amphisbaena, at least the version of castlevania, the green monster with the tail as attractive woman, Vouivre looks somewhat like it.
Vouivre is that.
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Yep! For some of them at least. I'd love to see some completely original takes on that concept as well, along with shout-outs to those old school angels.
Rather than go with angels who are just freaky looking for freaky-lookings sake, tying them into Golarion might make the notion more relevant feeling.
Tangent spoilered;
'Angels' of Desna. Insectoid, cold black chitin made of starless night, translucent butterfly wings that shimmer with the colors of distant nebulae, inscrutable multi-faceted eyes that see across time and space. Called upon by her faithful as a means of transportation (they can see distant locations, or, some whisper, even *times*, and bear aloft anyone they have seized in their six legs and spun in shimmering silk, and are strong enough to carry multiple humanoids dangling from silken threads, wrapped tightly and asleep and dreaming for their 'flight' across the void of night to their target destination). They can also enmesh enemies of the faith, or creatures who threaten her Varisian peoples, spinning them into cocoons that split open eight hours later, having enacted a forced reincarnation on the being contained within, turning it into a swarm of mundane butterflies...
Sarenrae could have servants composed of living flame from the sun itself, too terrible to look upon without being blinded by their merciless glare. Shelyn could have an angelic servant called 'the Painted Man,' who is an ever-shifting mass of brightly colored pigments, and has abilities more similar to those of a gibbering mouther with an endless supply of Nolzur's Marvelous Pigment than a traditional angel. A particularly unsettling archon of Iomedae could be a construct composed of the armor and weapons and shields of all who have died in Mendev, bound together by the spilled blood and undying valor of these fallen knights and paladins.
Rather than go with 'this angel looks like a burning wheel made out of flaming lion's heads' or something out of real world religious beliefs, tying celestials who don't look like dudes-with-wings into the faiths of the various Golarion gods could make for some fun reasons to have less Hallmark-greeting-cards-looking 'angels.'
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In addition to angelsl that look wierd solely for the purpose of looking wierd, maybe some "regular" angels have something other than human as the base. Is it any wonder that the goblins, orcs, ogres, etc have chosen evil given that the good gods seem to be overwhelmingly racist against non-humans/elves?
What is Vouivre?
Vouivre is the french translation for Wyvern and is derivated from Guivre (which means snake in old french).
But Vouivre and Wyvern seem quite different creatures. In medieval age art, Vouivre looks more like a winged linnorm with a garnet inlaid on its forehead.
In french folklore, the Vouivre is a fantastic snake, with bat wings and pig legs protecting a treasure.
In fantasy litterature, the Vouivre has been described as :
* a beautiful female fey protecting a big size ruby.
* some kind of water spirit, who can appears as a beautiful woman when she is happy or a two-legged dragon when she is angry.
* a huge snake living underground.
In addition to angelsl that look wierd solely for the purpose of looking wierd, maybe some "regular" angels have something other than human as the base. Is it any wonder that the goblins, orcs, ogres, etc have chosen evil given that the good gods seem to be overwhelmingly racist against non-humans/elves?
Well, if you consider Goblins and all other happy friends as creations of evil gods (as much as Torag created Dwarves in Golarion, for example)...
Anyway, for weird-looking Angels, I'm out. Angels are the way they are now, simply.
As for weird-looking Celestials of a totally new kind, then I'm in. To the extreme, also. They'd fit with monstrous/aberrant/alien good-aligned Gods, and it'd be cool. But not Angels.
The Vouivre in Pathfinder adventure path however looks more like an beautiful chinese/japanese lady with a serpent tail and her on the end of that tail a dragons head, much like the amphisbaena but then with one half beautiful female, the other half an evil dragon.
I like the idea of weird looking new type of celestials but I like angels the way they are.
You don't need a new type of angel that looks like another race they can look like other humaniods, it depends on the power(s) of the angel and/or who they serve.
Another vote for Platypus.
And also Diprotodon (megafauna Wombat)
Why would one want a normal Platypus if you can have the giant platypus?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/giant-platypus-in-chinese-fossil s/story-e6frg6so-1111118442573
A normal Platypus and Giant Platypus would be cool.
MORE FEY
Bestairy 1 has 5(only)
Bestairy 2 has 16!!!
Bestiary 3 has 11(not as good as 2)
Robots are necessary. Yes, I know you can make a lot of robots just by giving animated objects the robot subtype, but seriously robots need to be an rpg line rulebook and more unique robots would be cool as well.
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Another vote for Platypus.
And also Diprotodon (megafauna Wombat)
Why would one want a normal Platypus if you can have the giant platypus?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/giant-platypus-in-chinese-fossil s/story-e6frg6so-1111118442573
Because I have seen them in the wild and they are very cute. That doesn't mean I don't think a giant one is not a good thing, but I would like a normal one first.
And, to bring this full circle, the estate of Robert E. Howard let me keep my favorite monster from one of the scariest stories in the English language in Bestiary 3.
So...what monster was this?
The Zuvembie
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Rather than go with angels who are just freaky looking for freaky-lookings sake, tying them into Golarion might make the notion more relevant feeling.
Having some as setting-neutral options would be nice too, and the Bestiaries are generally setting neutral I believe. Still...
'Angels' of Desna. Insectoid, cold black chitin made of starless night, translucent butterfly wings that shimmer with the colors of distant nebulae, inscrutable multi-faceted eyes that see across time and space. Called upon by her faithful as a means of transportation (they can see distant locations, or, some whisper, even *times*, and bear aloft anyone they have seized in their six legs and spun in shimmering silk, and are strong enough to carry multiple humanoids dangling from silken threads, wrapped tightly and asleep and dreaming for their 'flight' across the void of night to their target destination). They can also enmesh enemies of the faith, or creatures who threaten her Varisian peoples, spinning them into cocoons that split open eight hours later, having enacted a forced reincarnation on the being contained within, turning it into a swarm of mundane butterflies...
I really, really love this concept.
In addition to angelsl that look wierd solely for the purpose of looking wierd, maybe some "regular" angels have something other than human as the base. Is it any wonder that the goblins, orcs, ogres, etc have chosen evil given that the good gods seem to be overwhelmingly racist against non-humans/elves?
For serious. A lack of monstrous-ish celestials was one of my sources of frustration when making a CG/CN culture for orcs and half-orcs. It really doesn't help when all of the azatas look like pretty elves or humans.
Celestials born of risen fiends, celestials formed from the souls of redeemed orcs, goblins, medusa, etc..., stuff like that would be nice. I mean hey, it would go to show that good is about more than just looking good. It would show that they've actually gotten some actual good done as well, what with the redemption theme.
(I mean it would be nice to have some sign that Sarenrae isn't just sitting on her hands when it comes to the redemption thing, but that's a setting specific thing as well)
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May or may not be Bestiary appropriate, but some offerings for gigantohuge monsters along the lines of Shadow of the Colossus encounters would be nice to see explored somewhere.
Monsters who are maps onto themselves. Monsters that have to be scaled and poked in the face or whatever its vulnerable spot is. Or it may be something the PCs need to get into and fight from within. This might be best offered in a book exploring alternate encounter designs though.
Having some as setting-neutral options would be nice too, and the Bestiaries are generally setting neutral I believe. Still...
They're setting neutral. Hence the disconnect between the flavor behind Bestiary angels and Golarion specific angels, with the former being pretty much identical to their role in 3.x baseline of any good and often deific servitors versus the Golarion flavor of largely NG and from Nirvana but deific servitors as long as it serves their racial goals.
May or may not be Bestiary appropriate, but some offerings for gigantohuge monsters along the lines of Shadow of the Colossus encounters would be nice to see explored somewhere.
Monsters who are maps onto themselves. Monsters that have to be scaled and poked in the face or whatever its vulnerable spot is. Or it may be something the PCs need to get into and fight from within. This might be best offered in a book exploring alternate encounter designs though.
Those work a lot better as locations instead of using the rules for creatures.
Another race of "True Dragons" that are ether all Chaotic or all Lawful Aligned.
Plant based template like celestial or fiendish.
Intelligent shapeshifting ooze with magical powers(has anyone seen Queen's blade).
Half templates for Chaotic and Lawful outsiders.
More types of Lamia.
More minor constructs like Doll Golem, Evil puppet that posseses/controls people, Tinman, etc.
Creatures that use paper as a weapon.
Creatures from the Positive energy plane.
More Tane and other creatures from the first world.
Living sword that fights, fly, and controls other weapons.
A monster with x-ray vision
Creatures that can control gravity or magnatism.
elementals that are actually like the medieval European elementals
Medieval Europe had elemental myths? Please, do tell.
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Like teenage vampires that glitter in the sunlight and break girls hearts instead of draining them dry!
... God I hope not.
But Baelnorns were cool, and FR had undead tomb-guarding elves that were cool, and I could do for some undead templates that have no alignment change attached to them by default.
Perhaps a spell to raise you as an undead after you die. You can bring yourself to the cleric to pay for your resurrection. Or a Mage could use it to continue his research without aging, or becoming a lich and having to do evil crap.
There are other possibilities for nonevil undead than sparkling glitter hairgel golems that twinkle in the daylight and spend all day being domestically abusive.
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Currently, I am interested in seeing the following:
Formians
More Inevitables
More Proteans
More Kytons
Alien-Looking Celestials
Good-Aligned Undead
Gigases
Robots
Azi
More Golems
More Lawful Neutral / Chaotic Neutral Outsiders
Aos Si
More Positive / Negative Energy Plane-Dwelling Creatures
Mirror Lurker
More Plane of Dreams-Dwelling Creatures
Bio-Constructs
Sand Kraken
Lawful, Neutral, and Chaotic Planetouched
Half-X Templates for Chaotic and Lawful outsiders.
Psychopomps
Cactus-based Plant Creatures
Fomorians
Aquatic Monsters
At least some High-CR Monsters (I'd honestly love a Mythic Besitary at some point, but we'd need Mythic Rules out for that; Supermassive monsters would be on the list of things I'd like to see in that when it eventually comes out)
Corpse Orgy
Stolas
Tiny or Small prehistric animals for familiars
-Trilobite
-Anomalocaris
-Diplocaulus
-Meganeura
-Archaeopteryx
-Ammonite
Creatures from mythology like Taotie, Hundun (this is not food), Qiong Qi, Rokurokubi, and more.
There's a whole host of mythical 'gods' from other cultures that would make fine high CR monsters instead. Basically beings that are not gods themselves (or used to be) but get mistaken for them by primitive cultures. Same vein as the Coatl or Rakshasa for example. Too many examples of this to mention. But for example, I intend to stat up the trickster 'god' Anansi for my serpents skull campaign.
Also monsters like Grendel, Nidhogg and Fenrir from Norse myth.
More Dinosaurs and Megafauna! Therizinosaurus and Chalicothere are must haves.
More African, south American, aboriginal and polynesian mythological creatures. Such as 'dream' monsters, El Cuero, Chonchinyi, Rompo, Aigamuxa, Hai-Uri, Ilombo, Ikaki, Tikbalang, Abada, awakened/reincarnated animals, Obeah (jungle hags), Kenaima.
Reprint the other 100 odd monsters knocking around in old AP, setting books and the good old tome of horrors. Again too many to name but examples include Charau-Ka, Dhabba, Wax Golem, Harvestmen, alchemical oozes, sand eel, ercinee, corpse-spinner.
More variant creatures and/or template options for building monsters.
More monsters that are inspired from fiction.
Some Robots and Aliens to fit a Numerian AP that everyone wants :)
More familiar
-Chicken
-Dodo
-Snail/Slug
-Rhamphorhynchus
-Newt
-Insects
Grendal and his Mother
More Hags
The Lovecraft monsters that were cut from Carrion crown (wake the watcher) AP.
Aliens like the Greys(telepathy/telekinetic abilities)
More Sea creatures/monsters
Here's a list of Monsters from 3rd party sources that have been used in Pathfinder but have yet to make an appearence in a Bestiary. All of these would be a good option for a Bestiary, plus Paizo has already set a precedent for them exsisting on Golarion.
Abyssal Harvester
Alu-Demon
Arrowhawk
Ashmede Devil
Babbler
Balban Demon
Banaan (Grimstalker)
Baobhan Sith
Bloody Bones
Brass Man
Bronze Giant
Burning Dervish
Carrion Moth
Cave Cricket
Cave Moray
Cinder Ghoul
Coffer Corpse
Corpse Orgy
Corpsespinner
Dark Sphinx
Darnoc
Death Dog
Demonic Knight
Digester
Dire Weasel
Doombat
Dragonnel
Eye of the Deep
Fire Nymph
Fire Phantom
Fire Snake
Firefiend
Furnace Golem
Geier
Ghoul Wolf/Dire Ghoul Wolf
Ghoul-Stirge
Glomeray
Gohl
Grey Nisp
Hoar Spirit
Lich Shade
Lightning Treant
Locust Swarm
Mudmen
Negative Energy Elemental
Piranha Swarm
Pyrolisk
Raven Swarm
Rawbones
Sand Kraken
Scythe Tree
Shadow Rat Swarm
Skull Spider
Stegocentipede
Tallow Golem (Wax Golem)
Terkow
Two-Headed Troll
Vilstrak
White Pudding
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That would be great, but the Tarrasque was an Original character formed from the backs of it's own legend. Pathfinder artists and designers I challenge thee, make beasts not spawned from legend and tales. Create a series of original and terrifying creation. Ones that like the Tarrasque will chill the bones of players that know their name.
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the Tarrasque was an Original character formed from the backs of it's own legend. Pathfinder artists and designers I challenge thee, make beasts not spawned from legend and tales. Create a series of original and terrifying creation.
There is a push towards more creatures from mythology and lore, more cryptids, more megafauna/dinosaurs, etc. which is perhaps understandable, since some of those creatures come with their own built in fanbase.
It's probably seen as rollerskating uphill to try and create a lasting popular monster from scratch that doesn't have some source material to mine for ideas, and a recognizable name or legend to draw eyes.
I'm totally schizo on that topic. I love me some cryptids like the Mngwa and Mokole-Mbembe, but also find 'original' critters to be interesting as well, and there are some mythic critters that do nothing for me (Hippocampus? Ahuizotl? I'm not that into you.).
I've got enough random bags of special abilities, I think, and would prefer seeing more beasties that have some actual role and purpose in the setting, which, of course, isn't likely, since the Bestiaries are intended to be setting-neutral...
Looking at some beasties, I feel that too much of the design focus was on flipping through myths and legends looking for stuff that would be cool to Pathfinder-ize, and not enough on what sort of narrative or tactical or thematic role or purpose this new creature would serve in a story, setting or encounter.
I wouldn't care for more unique too-big creatures, more normal animal-familiars are also on my NOT list.
I want Fossegrim!!!