Older Issue Content: Primus??


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Grand Lodge

In 1983 the Monster Manual II introduced the Modrons and their leader, Primus.

I was wondering if Primus was introduced even earlier in a Dragon magazine.


I can´t find any entry indicating this in the Dragondex, which is one of the best and most thorough ressources on Dragon content.

Regarding Modrons, there are two entries listed:
"Return of the Modrons" Ken Marable 354(34) D&D3
"Modron Magic" Monte Cook 241(56) D&D2

Both are way after the original book had been published, so it seems that they were first published in the MMII (Wikipedia says so as well, but that is not necessarily the final word on that matter).

Primus is not mentioned in the Dragondex at all.

Stefan

Grand Lodge

Thanks!

As always, I can count on you as one of my big references, Stebehil.

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I didn't think he had been designed before the MMII but didn't really know.

For a couple years now I've been considering him as the "Ao" deity in my Homebrew cosmology and was hoping he was older than 1983. Ah well, he still could fit as the Alpha and Omega (whatever) for my Homebrew.

Grand Lodge

Did you go with the Orcus tangent from Planescape, where Orcus kills Primus and poses as him for a while?

Just curious...


Primus turned up again as a vestige (a less-than-deity-yet-more-powerful-than-a-mortal being used in pact magic). Pact magic itself is explained in Tome of Magic, but the Primus vestige is in Dragon 341.

The Dragon 354 article mentions the fate of the original Primus, and what happened to the modron race as a result of the Tenebrous/Orcus situation. Tenebrous returned as a vestige as well (his vestige is in Tome of Magic).

Grand Lodge

@DigitalElf,

Yeah, I really love Dead Gods yet the sentence in the Background that says Tenebrous "Spoke the Last Word" and killed Primus is the one line of text that I don't acknowledge.

Probably because Monte Cook was just looking for a few "non-big" names that he could kill without hurting peoples' games and still show how badd-asss Orcus is on his search for his Wand. It doesn't really matter who Tenebrous kills as long as they're not important to gamers but are still powerful.

I let Maanzecorian live, too.

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