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Slaunyeh wrote:

Same here. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if you could just opt to use the regular web-site, but I think you're being forced onto the mobile site.

Yeah. I'm not sure why IE on windows phones is having that problem. IE has a history of not doing things exactly like it's supposed to but it usually kind of works. I'll take a look at this and the iPad 3 problem once I get some more time to work on the PRD and get some things setup to test the problems. Thanks for letting us know.


Hey there,

Is there any chance a feat tree could be added to the PRD? It'd be a great help.

Thanks!


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Slaunyeh wrote:

Same here. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if you could just opt to use the regular web-site, but I think you're being forced onto the mobile site.

Yeah. I'm not sure why IE on windows phones is having that problem. IE has a history of not doing things exactly like it's supposed to but it usually kind of works. I'll take a look at this and the iPad 3 problem once I get some more time to work on the PRD and get some things setup to test the problems. Thanks for letting us know.

Lol I say again if MS doesn't have their hands in it making money with it they don't care if it works lime it should. Make me almost ashamed that I have a windows phone and use a windows OS. Either way it is great that you reply and acknowledge it =D ty.

Andoran

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Question:

Can we get the CR ratings for monsters listed in their Bestiary entries? It would make it easier then needing two windows open (One with Bestiary and one with CRB Table: Experience Point Awards) to cross reference XP amounts.

After just quickly glancing through the Bestiaries it looks like B1 and B3 are missing all CR ratings, where as B2 seems to be hit and miss as to which monsters have CR listed.


dracomancer wrote:

Question:

Can we get the CR ratings for monsters listed in their Bestiary entries? It would make it easier then needing two windows open (One with Bestiary and one with CRB Table: Experience Point Awards) to cross reference XP amounts.

After just quickly glancing through the Bestiaries it looks like B1 and B3 are missing all CR ratings, where as B2 seems to be hit and miss as to which monsters have CR listed.

Are you speaking of regular prd or some sort of mobile version? Because in regular prd each monster entry has CR listed in the same line as the monster name.


Drejk wrote:
dracomancer wrote:

Question:

Can we get the CR ratings for monsters listed in their Bestiary entries? It would make it easier then needing two windows open (One with Bestiary and one with CRB Table: Experience Point Awards) to cross reference XP amounts.

After just quickly glancing through the Bestiaries it looks like B1 and B3 are missing all CR ratings, where as B2 seems to be hit and miss as to which monsters have CR listed.

Are you speaking of regular prd or some sort of mobile version? Because in regular prd each monster entry has CR listed in the same line as the monster name.

I noticed last night that the CR entries are there but hard to see... white on off-white, because they are not IN the name banner for the creature entry (but are formatted as if they are).

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Urath DM wrote:
Drejk wrote:
dracomancer wrote:

Question:

Can we get the CR ratings for monsters listed in their Bestiary entries? It would make it easier then needing two windows open (One with Bestiary and one with CRB Table: Experience Point Awards) to cross reference XP amounts.

After just quickly glancing through the Bestiaries it looks like B1 and B3 are missing all CR ratings, where as B2 seems to be hit and miss as to which monsters have CR listed.

Are you speaking of regular prd or some sort of mobile version? Because in regular prd each monster entry has CR listed in the same line as the monster name.
I noticed last night that the CR entries are there but hard to see... white on off-white, because they are not IN the name banner for the creature entry (but are formatted as if they are).

That sounds like your browser might not be rendering that class correctly. Do you mind providing a screen shot and the browser/version?


Chris Lambertz wrote:
Urath DM wrote:


I noticed last night that the CR entries are there but hard to see... white on off-white, because they are not IN the name banner for the creature entry (but are formatted as if they are).
That sounds like your browser might not be rendering that class correctly. Do you mind providing a screen shot and the browser/version?

IE 9.0.8112.16421IS (Update version 9.0.6)

Edit: Hmm.. not seeing any way to post the screenshot... email customer service?

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Urath DM wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
Urath DM wrote:


I noticed last night that the CR entries are there but hard to see... white on off-white, because they are not IN the name banner for the creature entry (but are formatted as if they are).
That sounds like your browser might not be rendering that class correctly. Do you mind providing a screen shot and the browser/version?

IE 9.0.8112.16421IS (Update version 9.0.6)

Edit: Hmm.. not seeing any way to post the screenshot... email customer service?

Odd. Looking at it in IE, that same version of IE, and the CR looks correct. On the right in the bar. Can you post the url you are looking at where it's showing? It's possible that Chris already fixed this without me realizing. =) If it's working for you let me know that too.


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Urath DM wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
Urath DM wrote:


I noticed last night that the CR entries are there but hard to see... white on off-white, because they are not IN the name banner for the creature entry (but are formatted as if they are).
That sounds like your browser might not be rendering that class correctly. Do you mind providing a screen shot and the browser/version?

IE 9.0.8112.16421IS (Update version 9.0.6)

Edit: Hmm.. not seeing any way to post the screenshot... email customer service?

Odd. Looking at it in IE, that same version of IE, and the CR looks correct. On the right in the bar. Can you post the url you are looking at where it's showing? It's possible that Chris already fixed this without me realizing. =) If it's working for you let me know that too.

URL used

Navigation path (in case it helps):
Paizo home page, from a bookmark
PRD link on left of home page
Monster Index
Scroll to "B"
"Beetle" link

What I see:
The CR is right-justified on the page on the same line as the XP entry, but text is white, as if it belongs in the black banner above it.

Edit: This may or may not be related, but the "vermin" creature type link on the third line of the example here ("Fire Beetle") extends well past the text, basically all the way to the right, ending just about aligned with the left edge of the CR entry on the line above it.

2nd Edit: Turning off Compatibility View mode seems to have fixed it.

Qadira

is the copy on Ultimate Magic for the synthesist what its supposed to be with the added errata on them? hard copy of paragraph two for them used to contain : "While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist uses the eidolon's physical ability scores (strength, dexterity, and constitution), but retains his own mental ability scores (intelligence, wisdom, and charisma)."

that is gone now, and I didn't see anything in the errata that took it out. Without it, it leaves the text vague as to whether stats are being used from the Eidolon or Summoner, or just modifiers to the Eidolon's stats are being used.

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Seraphimpunk wrote:

is the copy on Ultimate Magic for the synthesist what its supposed to be with the added errata on them? hard copy of paragraph two for them used to contain : "While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist uses the eidolon's physical ability scores (strength, dexterity, and constitution), but retains his own mental ability scores (intelligence, wisdom, and charisma)."

that is gone now, and I didn't see anything in the errata that took it out. Without it, it leaves the text vague as to whether stats are being used from the Eidolon or Summoner, or just modifiers to the Eidolon's stats are being used.

Doh. That was weird. Fixed it up to match the 2nd printing. I think we just got some paragraph change weirdness there.


Empower Spell description seems to be a bit broken - according to the errata the "including bonuses to those dice rolls" should be added at the end of first sentence while the prd version has it added at the end of second sentence, completely reversing the errata meaning.

Taldor

I never realized there was a second printing of Ultimate Magic. I have to check the changes on that seeing that one of my most used classes are the Magi.


Slaunyeh wrote:
On my phone, using Internet Explorer, the PRD doesn't seem to work at all. I can see the list of books, but nothing happens when I click on any of them. It also doesn't appear to be possible to use the normal site instead, it just directs me to instructions on how to click the navigate button. :)

I know that in the past there have been problems with IE where a background graphic ends up on top of a hyperlink, so that it looks like you're clicking on a link but you're actually clicking on the background graphic. Don't know if that's the situation here, though.


The tetori monk archetype still has the old incorrect feats listed for their 2nd, 10th, and 18th level bonus feats.

Ultimate Combat FAQ wrote:
Page 16, change "2nd level—Crushing Embrace" to "2nd level—Stunning Pin"; change "10th level—Twin Lock" to "10th-level—Pinning Knockout"; and change "18th level—Backbreaker" to "18th level—Neckbreaker."

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Hurderpus Maximus wrote:

The tetori monk archetype still has the old incorrect feats listed for their 2nd, 10th, and 18th level bonus feats.

Ultimate Combat FAQ wrote:
Page 16, change "2nd level—Crushing Embrace" to "2nd level—Stunning Pin"; change "10th level—Twin Lock" to "10th-level—Pinning Knockout"; and change "18th level—Backbreaker" to "18th level—Neckbreaker."

We only update the PRD with Errata that comes with each new printing. This will be corrected with the second printing of Ultimate Combat whenever that happens.


http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/genie.html

There's some weird formatting on the last paragraph of each entry on the Genie page. Here's the document source in question:

Quote:
<p>A small percentage of djinn are noble. Noble djinn, often called viziers, have 10 Hit Dice, Strength 23, and Charisma 17, and can grant three <i>wishes </i>to any being (nongenies only) who captures them. Djinn nobles are <span class=stat-block-cr>CR 8</span>.</p>

The <span class=stat-block-cr> </span> tags around "CR 8" are extraneous, I think.

There's the same formatting for the noble efreet, noble jann, noble marid and noble shaitan.


In this page, the "Dragon Attacks and Speeds" table lists a "2 Wings" column, but it should be the "Gore" column instead.


http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/mastery/haunts.html

On the page that describes haunts, the sample haunt stat block has the extraneous word "null" at the end.


Pathfinder Modules Subscriber
Lissa Guillet wrote:
Seraphimpunk wrote:

is the copy on Ultimate Magic for the synthesist what its supposed to be with the added errata on them? hard copy of paragraph two for them used to contain : "While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist uses the eidolon's physical ability scores (strength, dexterity, and constitution), but retains his own mental ability scores (intelligence, wisdom, and charisma)."

that is gone now, and I didn't see anything in the errata that took it out. Without it, it leaves the text vague as to whether stats are being used from the Eidolon or Summoner, or just modifiers to the Eidolon's stats are being used.

Doh. That was weird. Fixed it up to match the 2nd printing. I think we just got some paragraph change weirdness there.

Greetings, and a query: When you mention that you fixed it, was that intended to mean that the text about using the eidolon's physical ability scores et al. should now show up on the PRD? I only ask because it's still missing, so I wasn't sure if there was a wait time before changes propagate to the PRD site.

If somebody already addressed this in this thread, <venturebros>IGNORE ME!</venturebros>

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That's weird. I will double check and see what's going on when I get back in the office this morning.


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Lissa Guillet wrote:
That's weird. I will double check and see what's going on when I get back in the office this morning.

Looks like it's up now. Thanks, and cheers!

Paizo Employee Assistant Software Developer

blahpers wrote:


Looks like it's up now. Thanks, and cheers!

Yeah, I kicked it. =)


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Thanks for all the diligent work on this. I buy books, but I use the PRD all the time while gaming, so I appreciate your efforts to maintain and improve.

Didn't see this mentioned in the thread so far:

The "Whirlwind (Su)" entry in Universal Monster Rules of the first Bestiary is not correct. The 2nd and 3rd Bestiaries have the new version of the rule, see especially the 4th paragraph of each.

I'd prefer that the there was only one set of Universal Monster Rules for the whole PRD, with content linking to each book where necessary. As is, when I search for "Whirlwind" I get three results for the universal monster rules, one of which doesn't match the other two in terms of functionality.


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Remember that prd mimics the actual state of latest printing of physical books. So each Bestiary has its own Universal Monster Rules section as written in latest printing of that particular book. As long as latest printing of Bestiary 1 has not updated to the same rules as in B2 & B3 it will deliberately show previous version of that rule.

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Drejk wrote:
Remember that prd mimics the actual state of latest printing of physical books. So each Bestiary has its own Universal Monster Rules section as written in latest printing of that particular book. As long as latest printing of Bestiary 1 has not updated to the same rules as in B2 & B3 it will deliberately show previous version of that rule.

This has been the general rule that we try to go by. Maintenance of these things is always an issue. That said, it kinda makes sense since this is something we can point to the latest. At the very least, providing an index to the latest monster rules or something may not be completely out of the question.


Is it the intent to remove all page number references from the PRD? If so, there's a reference to Bestiary page numbers in the description of Vomit Swarm.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

I just heard that allegedly the 5th printing of the CRB updates the light spell to state that only the point touched glows, rather than the whole object (inserting the phrase "from the point touched" or something along those lines), but it's not in the PRD. What's the correct text? Does the PRD need updating?

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Jiggy wrote:
I just heard that allegedly the 5th printing of the CRB updates the light spell to state that only the point touched glows, rather than the whole object (inserting the phrase "from the point touched" or something along those lines), but it's not in the PRD. What's the correct text? Does the PRD need updating?

I'll take a look and compare the document. I anticipate we'll have an update to the PRD sometime soon, if that's the case, it will be updated then :)


The "light" spell does not have the newest errata.

The lastest book printing says:
"This spell causes a touched object to glow like a torch, shedding
normal light in a 20-foot radius from the point touched, and
increasing the light level for an additional 20 feet by one step, up..."

The PRD has:
"This spell causes a touched object to glow like a torch, shedding normal light in a 20-foot radius, and increasing the light level for an additional 20 feet by one step, up to normal light (darkness becomes dim light, and dim light becomes normal light). In an area of normal or bright light, this spell has no effect. The effect is immobile, but it can be cast on a movable object."
----------------------------------
The bolded words are missing.


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Summon Monster I now gives just a dog instead of a riding dog.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Can we get links in the headings? Or is there a way to get them?

For example, if I want to link to Aid Another, it seems that I need to go to the source code of the page it's on, and look for the ID there, then append it to the URL, and copy that to get this: Aid Another.

Is there a simpler way that I'm missing?

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Cheapy wrote:

Can we get links in the headings? Or is there a way to get them?

For example, if I want to link to Aid Another, it seems that I need to go to the source code of the page it's on, and look for the ID there, then append it to the URL, and copy that to get this: Aid Another.

Is there a simpler way that I'm missing?

We were conceptualizing a way to incorporate that kind of feature, however, this hasn't been done just yet.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Yay!


Usually I just copy the link to the page and add #aid-another or #whatever manually. It sometimes takes some time to guess correctly, however and a few times I had to resort to looking through html source to make correct link. Having the option of linking directly would be great.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Cheapy wrote:

Can we get links in the headings? Or is there a way to get them?

For example, if I want to link to Aid Another, it seems that I need to go to the source code of the page it's on, and look for the ID there, then append it to the URL, and copy that to get this: Aid Another.

Is there a simpler way that I'm missing?

Hint: If you search the PRD for the term you're wanting (like typing Aid Another into the search box), the resulting link will be the url you're looking for.


Under Summoner -

(an eidolon receives a number of skill ranks equal to 6 + its Intelligence modifier per HD)

But the Eidolon: Base Statistics Chart shows 4 Skill Points per HD.

Not sure if this is the right thread.

Hassan


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
Hassan Ahmed wrote:

Under Summoner -

(an eidolon receives a number of skill ranks equal to 6 + its Intelligence modifier per HD)

But the Eidolon: Base Statistics Chart shows 4 Skill Points per HD.

Not sure if this is the right thread.

Hassan

6 + (-2) is 4. The Int modifier is -2 because all three forms have a 7 Int.

-- david
Papa.DRB


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Hassan, it's due to the int penalty all eidolons have.


Got it, thanks... the Pudding is in the Mix! Or out of it, in this case.

Silver Crusade

Chris Lambertz wrote:
Grick wrote:

Anchors are working differently now. With scripting enabled the anchors kinda work, it drops to that part of the page but doesn't update the location bar. This means if you click Back, instead of taking you back to the pre-anchor part of the page, it takes to whatever page you were on before that. It also makes it harder to copy anchored locations, since you have to copy the url from the link pointing to the anchor, instead of from the anchored page itself.

Here's an example of what I mean: I'm interested in the Acrobatics feat. I go to the PRD, then go to feats.html, I scroll down and in Table:Feats I click the Acrobatics link. This drops the page down to the Acrobatics text, but doesn't show in the location bar, so I have no way of copying that URL for my messageboard post. I want to get back to Table:Feats so I click the Back button in my browser. This takes me back to the PRD index, instead of feats.html because the anchor didn't update the location bar. So I have to click the link to feats.html again, scroll down to Table:Feats, then copy the URL for acrobatics, then manually remove the underscore.

We're working on coming up with a solution for this problem that will cover the entirety of the PRD, not just pages like feats. It's a bit tricky figuring out how we want to implement it, but it is on the to-do list.

It would be nice to get this sometime soon, because for me, the mobile PRD is very slow to use; just because of this back button issue.

Contributor

In the marsh giant entry, the spell-like abilities for "brineborn" are squeezed into the normal stat block, instead of being at the end of the text like they should be.


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Don't know if this has already been reported, but there's a sentence repeated in the Combat section in the first paragraph under Throw Splash Weapon (bolded below).

Quote:
A splash weapon is a ranged weapon that breaks on impact, splashing or scattering its contents over its target and nearby creatures or objects. To attack with a splash weapon, make a ranged touch attack against the target. Thrown splash weapons require no weapon proficiency, so you don't take the –4 nonproficiency penalty. A hit deals direct hit damage to the target, and splash damage to all creatures within 5 feet of the target. If the target is Large or larger, you choose one of its squares and the splash damage affects creatures within 5 feet of that square. Splash weapons cannot deal precision-based damage (such as sneak attack). Splash weapons cannot deal precision-based damage (such as the damage from the rogue's sneak attack class feature).


I'm currently editing this on the d20pfsrd, but I thought I'd let you know...

For Words of Power, Under the Acid Words section, you guys misapplied the latest Errata.

Corrosive Bolt is supposed to be "2 rounds", and Acid Wave is supposed to be "1 round/level (see text)". You guys have them in reverse :p.

No wonder I originally thought I was going to destroy stuff :D.
Anyhoo, hope that helps!

Edit: Actually, I just noticed, it seems like a lot of the errata is missing. I guess this will get updated with the rest of the errata?


Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

In Ultimate Combat, Magus Archetypes, both the Kensai and the Myrmidarch reference Magus Arcana which do not appear to exist either within the new Magus Arcana list in that section, nor in the original Magus Arcana list, nor are there search results for any of them: Deadly Follow-Up, Precise Prowess, Lucky Strike, Stolen Skill

If these exist somewhere, they should be added in, otherwise the nonexistant arcana should be removed.

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8

Just discovered that under "spell lists" for Ultimate Magic, the spell haunting mist in the 2nd lvl wizard/sorcerer list links to haunting choir instead.


Bestiary 3: Kami, Jinushigami; the Improved Overrun feat has been listed as "Improved Bull Overrun".


The PRD doesn't include a description of the scimitar.

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Lil B wrote:
The PRD doesn't include a description of the scimitar.

As of the fifth prining, I don't see one in the core rulebook either and we try to keep those inline with each other.

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