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Here's an odd one ...
I load up the PRD on my desktop, running Firefox 3.6.24, and the left sidebar menu collapses just fine.
I load it up on my laptop, also using Firefox 3.6.24, and they don't collapse at all.
The browser settings are identical, as I recently bought the laptop and imported my settings. Both run Win7 Premium 64-bit.
Noah Fentz wrote:
First: Kudos! The new PRD is awesome.
Second: The PF Core Errata for the Skill: Intimidate is missing from the PRD.
Pathfinder Core Rules Errata - v1 wrote:
The errata text is missing from the entry.
Noah Fentz wrote:
Lissa Guillet wrote:
I only get css dropped declarations, no real errors. I never install toolbars. They are a waste of resources and a security risk.
Warning: Unknown property 'column-gap'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/include/prd-template.css
Warning: Unknown property 'column-width'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property 'column-break-inside'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property 'break-inside'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-column-break-inside'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-break-inside'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-column-span'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property 'column-span'. Declaration dropped.
Warning: Unknown property 'border-radius'. Declaration dropped.
I do some web design, and I know all too well the biggest PITA is browser compatibility, but I've never seen the exact same browser version with identical settings behave differently.
Edit: I get the exact same warnings on my desktop, with a multitude of other entries not found on my laptop. Again, same exact browser, add-ons, and OS.
Noah Fentz wrote:
Only time I've seen it is with weird caching settings or proxy servers. Our code base changes from time to time and a month ago, nothing happened to the side menu to begin with. My best guess is that there is some kind of stuck js file or something in cache or the internal database. The errors are just the css errors for the items that make up the column breaks on the index pages and such that don't have a valid single css property yet. Nothing weird there.
In Ultimate Magic's Summoner section I just found some minor errors. I noted .html source lines in parentheses for ease of finding them:
Low-light vision evolution (html source line 260) is linked to vision spell instead of low-light vision ability from the universal monster rules.
Channel Resistance evolution (html source line 264) is linked to resistance spell instead of channel resistance ability from the universal monster rules. It has also three <br/> tags within that break the formatting of it's description.
Minor Magic evolution (html source line 267) has missplaced <br/> tag near it's end as well.
See In Darkness evolution (html source line 276) is linked to darkness spell.
Broodmaster's Maker's Call class feature (html source line 296) has another rogue <br/> tag.
The Table: Umbral Special Abilities doesn't include the fact that Umbral Dragons can cast Cleric spells as arcane spells.
The end of the creature's descriptive text says: "... and the following additional spell-like abilities:"
Something's kinda screwy when browsing on my BB Torch.
PlAyinG ThE GAmE
Now, the problem could just be on my end. My browser has always rendered things a little screwy...
the spell Brow Gasher is in the Ultimate Combat spell list but not the spell index
It looks fine to me on Firefox 8 (operating system: Ubuntu 11.04, GNOME). I'd try upgrading your browser if you're on a version other than the newest; it could be a CSS issue of some sort.
We actually pull out all the text for the PRD out of InDesign through a basic epub and then mangle it. Because the text has certain styles set to it originally that make the text appear the way it does in the books, the source text sometimes has different capitalization. We try to go through and correct this, but we also have a CSS class that changes the display in the same way the InDesign style does. It sounds like your browser is ignoring our CSS for the headers.
Error in links to cleric Knowledge domain in APG subdomain section:
In the Advanced Players Guide section that describes cleric subdomains (i.e. here: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/coreClasses/cleric.html), every time the Knowledge domain is linked to in a subdomain description, it is *supposed* to link to the description of the Knowledge cleric domain in the Core Rulebook, but instead they all link to the Knowledge *skill* description, which is not useful.
The alignment appears to be OK for Aasimar and Aboleth, however.
You will see that some of the challenge ratings are right aligned for the other creatures in that section.
The alignment issue continues to the end of the alphabet.
Also, there is no black bar for Bat, Skaveling.
[I am using Internet Explorer 8.]
Teeny tiny thing -- in the APG Wondrous Items, if you click on necromancer's athame in the summary list at the top, it does not take you down to the entry, it just stays where it is. I randomly clicked on some other items listed and they jumped to the right bookmark as appropriate.
This is in Firefox 8 if that's relevant.
It seems to be problem with all magic items with 's in their name (grappler's mask, knight's pennon) on that page.It seems to be specifically Firefox issue - in Chrome those links work correctly.
EDIT: probably Firefox can't correctly follow href containing 's (href="#necromancer's-athame"). In Core Rulebook Wondrous Items page items with 's in their name have -s in their href instead and work correctly. E.g. vestment, druid's is renderd as href="#vestment-druid-s".
Yeah. That was my thought yesterday. In other places, that got mangled to _, but there ya go. We will add it to the list for the next time we do PRD stuff.
Spell-Like Abilities (Sp): Spell-like abilities, as the name implies, are magical abilities that are very much like spells. Spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance and dispel magic. They do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). Spell-like abilities can be dispelled but the cannot be counterspelled or used to counterspell.
The bolded word should probably be "they".
OperationsKT, I'd love it if we could get the PRD on the Kindle. More to the point, I'd pay for that.
As to PRD corrections -- a quick, small spelling issue (that spellcheck wouldn't catch):
Empathic Link (Su): The master has an empathic link with his familiar to a 1 mile distance. The master can communicate emphatically with the familiar, but cannot see through its eyes.
Unless the master is supposed to be gesturing wildly, I am assuming the second sentence should read, "The master can communicate empathically..."
Probably is an error but it matches the text in the core rulebook. It should probably go in here.
For the Spell List Index, would it be possible to add an option to categorize by school?
The new layout is great--I'll test it out on my Android tablet when I get home (1024x600, running Honeycomb and using Opera Mobile as browser--I can also test with Dolphin HD, Firefox, etc. if that will help).
Did yours work? I tried it using "Browser" the default browser with Honeycomb (Asus, if it matters?) and the left nav column of the PRD didn't work. The whole column was just missing. (I haven't tried it with scripting disabled yet, though I assume even if it works, it'll have all the usual non-scripting issues with the anchor links)
If someone can tell me how to get more info from the thing, I'd be happy to list name/version#/etc.
The downloadable zipped PRD from d20pfsrd downloads worked great, though that was from before the overhaul (and is missing UC/UM). With the scripting stuff now, that's probably going to make it much harder to get an offline version. Any chance of paizo making an offline version for us? I'd love to have the PRD available when outside of wifi, and the PDFs take so very long to load.
For the Magic Item Index, being able to sort by slots would be handy.
Elemental Body I (Earth Elemental) on the PRD shows
Earth elemental: If the form you take is that of a Small earth elemental, you gain a +2 size bonus to your Strength and a +4 natural armor bonus. You also gain darkvision 60 feet, the push ability, and the ability to earth glide.
Core Rulebook (4th Printing) wrote:
Earth elemental: If the form you take is that of a Small earth elemental, you gain a +2 size bonus to your Strength and a +4 natural armor bonus. You also gain darkvision 60 feet and the ability to earth glide.
I think the PRD needs to be updated to reflect the CRB.
As a side note I could not find this change in any CRB errata doc listed on the Paizo website.
The bolded text was removed between the second and third printings of the Core Rulebook. It appears that that change is not mentioned in the current errata docs for 1st or 2nd printings, though.
Love the new PRD! I use it constantly. Just sayin' :)
Which, of course, is how I noticed that in shapechange the beast form IV spell isn't a hyperlink ... probably because the spell's name is actually beast shape IV.
Gary Teter wrote:
And yeah, searching the PRD kind of sucks. We're working on that.
**Warning: I'm about to go on a rant**
I know you know.... but MAN the PRD search function is sucking my will! I either get some links (as few as only 1 to as many as 20+ pages worth) that have little-to-nothing to do with what I'm searching for other than a similar word existing in it, or I get the "Your search didn't match any items." page. This is even when I copy-paste a section's heading/title and ability names directly from the PRD and search for it.
Most of it seems to be with regards to the Core Rule Book and Ultimate Combat, but I've been getting generally jerked around by the search function as of late.
I can search for Wind Stance and the top result is a direct link to the feat (yay).
I then search for Widen Spell, and the only link given brings me to the table of feats instead of the feat itself (meh)
Then I search for Agile Maneuvers. I get 6 links to monsters that have it, one link to the APG feat table (huh?), one link to the Under and Over feat (...uhm...), and one link to the list of Animal Feats in the druid page. (o_O)
Now lets step away from feats and search for some gear. Something simple and basic, like Thieves Tools. "Your search didn't match any items" (... what)
...how about a Revolver (an Advanced Firearm from UC)... "Your search didn't match any items"
Firearm Rules? "Your search didn't match any items"
Firearms? ....2 results: a link to a Bayonet (from the APG) and a Dagger, Pistol (Hey, at least it's the right page now)
How about a search for "Called Shots" now? I know there's an entire page dedicated to this, titles exactly that, and I find ... a link to the APG feat table again (no comment), and two links to monsters that have nothing to do with called shots (as far as I can tell, it picked up the word "shot"s and linked it to their feats "Shot on the run" and "precise shot")
...and it (search function sucking) goes on.
The index filters regarding the Core Rule Book and Metamagic Feats is greatly troubling as well. Not having the Metamagic feats from the CRB listed as Metamagic feats (which they are) is very annoying and makes making lists and quick referencing very difficult.
I also need to complain about some of the nonsensical hyperlinks. For example (just from the Oracle page):
-The Oracle of Lore Revelation "Sidestep Secret" links to the Sidestep feat. (huh?)
-The Oracle of Lore Revelation "Whirlwind Lesson" links to the 8th level Druid spell "Whirlwind" (Seriously? They have nothing in common!)
-The Oracle of Nature Revelation "Bonded Mount" links to the Mount spell. (uhm, it serves as a druids animal companions, nothing like that spell)
-The Oracle of Stone Revelation "Earth Glide" links to the GLIDE SPELL! (...what!? ...when did supernaturally swimming through the earth become related to gliding through the air via a spell that describes itself as a better version of featherfall?)
-The Oracle of Stone Revelation "Rock Throwing" links to the weapon property of "throwing" (If this must link to something, why doesn't it link to the Rock Throwing monster ability instead?)
...and it goes on! Not just in the Oracle page, but throughout. It's as if someone figured that ANY word that is also the name of a spell will link to that spell, regardless of the context of that word (such as when it's a part of the name of a completely unrelated ability, or in a sentence using the word in it's normal fashion instead of as the spell). It just... ODD... and a bit annoying that those were added instead of the search functioned getting cleaned up.
OK. I'm done ranting for now. Paizo is great, and I use the PRD a lot (as well as the real books), but this was really starting to annoy me.
*Stops being the Grinch/Scrooge*
Another option is to enter a term or phrase in the search box in the upper right corner of d20pfsrd.com and then clicking the down arrow on the search button and choosing Paizo.
This launches a new browser window to a custom google search page that allows for refinements based on sourcebook.