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L12 Fighter was turned to stone by a Beholder Hive Mother (backward compatibility with PFRPG, from Lords of Madness). He was then disintegrated, but survived with just a few hitpoints. Next he was a victim of cause serious wounds - and this finally killed him.
That was the end of round 1. lol
When we play next week, what options do I have to raise his character? He only really died of cure serious wounds so raise dead should work? Or can True Resurrection be found on a scroll? What would it take the L12 Cleric to cast a scroll of resurrection - do such things exist?
Are there any restrictions on who can be raised based on the way they died? What happens to all the character's belongings... his handy haversack... his vorpal weapon... are they all disintegrated? Do they get a save?
Are there any restrictions on who can be raised based on the way they died? What happens to all the character's belongings... his handy haversack... his vorpal weapon... are they all disintegrated? Do they get a save?
He died from negative energy. There shouldn't be any problem rezzing him.
His belonging are considered unscathed unless he rolled a natural 1 on his save, in which case one item may be damaged, but that is independent if he died or not.
If there is a restriction to rezzing a character it will be found in the spell description of the spell that killed the character or in the description of the spell being used for rezzing them.
Have all the members of your party look for seven small balls. They are an orange colour and have 1-7 stars visible inside them. Once all seven balls have been collecter, they can call forth the dragon that lives inside the balls and wish you back to life!
^_^
oh wait... Ive been watching too much of that show lately..
As noted above. all should be okay. :P
The cleric should have access to the actual spell to bring you back, a scroll will be obtainable, but casting it from the spell list would work better imo.
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Just to verify:
He was made a statue from a flesh to stone effect.
Mostly Disintegrated.
And then inflict serious wounds was then cast on his no longer alive body? (Personally I think that the inflict would fail as the stone statue is not alive or dead. It is at that point an object and thus not a valid target for the spell).
He should be rezable with no problems
But he is still a statue and so you would need to do a stone to flesh to bring him back.
If he was stoned first, then all his gear is also stone and part of the statue.
My answer is a make whole to return the statue to whole, then a stone to flesh to return him to flesh. (but I also say that the inflict failed still).
The fighter was still alive, though unconscious when the inflict serious occurred.
1. Stoned - dropped to negative hp
2. Inflict Serious - for the kill
Then raise dead works fine. Disintegrate didn't kill him, so nothing happened to his stuff.
I'm unclear why this is a question.
Once he was stoned, he's no longer alive or dead, he's an object, so the disintegrate would've obliterated him as an object, nothing left to inflict, so true res or reincarnate.
If you treated him as a creature anyways, the inflict wouldn't work since he's neither alive nor dead, so he just needs the petrification removed.
If you stay with the broken gravel you were left with not retro fixing, then if they spend time mending the pieces back together just needs petrification fix again. Otherwise he's not technically dead until the petri is fixed, and if he's not put back together then will probably not be intact enough for raise dead, would need resurrect/reincarnate.
Once he was stoned, he's no longer alive or dead, he's an object, so the disintegrate would've obliterated him as an object, nothing left to inflict, so true res or reincarnate.
Assuming the beholder's ray is being treated as a Flesh to Stone spell:
The subject, along with all its carried gear, turns into a mindless, inert statue. If the statue resulting from this spell is broken or damaged, the subject (if ever returned to its original state) has similar damage or deformities. The creature is not dead, but it does not seem to be alive either when viewed with spells such as deathwatch.
When used against an object, the ray simply disintegrates as much as a 10-foot cube of nonliving matter. Thus, the spell disintegrates only part of any very large object or structure targeted. The ray affects even objects constructed entirely of force, such as forceful hand or a wall of force, but not magical effects such as a globe of invulnerability or an antimagic field.
Vorg is correct. Once turned to stone, the character and all his gear became one human-sized statue. The disintegrate spell turned the character and all of his equipment to dust. You will need a True Res or Reincarnate to raise the now naked character from the dead. Either way, his equipment is lost forever.
Wow. That's kind of crazy- it would seem his gear is destroyed (as it's really unclear if there's any way to undo all of that). What I want to know is why did the DM target the PC with a disintegrate AND an inflict wounds if the character was already turned to stone? I can see a particularly vindictive DM trying to destroy a petrified PC, but why would he hit a disintegrated statue with an inflict spell?
It really seems like the DM didn't know what he was doing. Why not petrify the fighter, then blast someone else with disintegrate? I don't get it.
I have to agree with Vorg. If he was a statue when he was hit with disintegrate he is dust and all his gear is lost.
There are reasons folks feared beholders.
More importantly can the Stone character be affected by Neg energy at all?
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Yes, as others point out, the sequence should go:
1. Flesh to Stone (character is now an object)
2. Disintegrate (object is now dust)
Then after the fight...
3. Mending or Make Whole (dust is now object)
4. Stone to Flesh (object is now character)
No ressurection required since at no point is the character ever technically 'dead' - he's just stone, be it as a him-shaped statue, or as a pile of dust. Of course, forgetting to cast the Mending or Make Whole before casting the Stone to Flesh would be... messy... for the guy... :)
His gear would be included in all of this, and would also end up fine (as it was disintegrated when it was stone, not when it was 'gear', and is restored along with his self via the Stone to Flesh spell).
Losing the dust before you could reform the statue would be another problem. Instead of that last cause serious wounds, some sort of wind spell would have been nastier...
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Some have asked why is this a question... we see now there was debate on both sides. One person called me, the GM, vindictive--not true.
The fighter ran out into line-of-site and was, at the time, the only target. The Beholder Hive Mother used its eye rays on him in the sequence given. As a GM, I wasn't metagaming how to kill the character, only adjudicating the order of the eyestalks in the order shot. Just happened this way.
The post above mentions whirlwind. There is a whirlwind that the mage in the party cast upon the evil Illusionist in the room who was mirror-imaged. It was enough to knock the Illusionist prone. I will need to read the radius of the spell to see if the fighters stone-dust gets caught up within it.
What if it does? (p.s. I'm not playing devils-advocate, nor making this stuff up. I thank the PAIZO community for helping me out on this one. Its very important that GMs treat character deaths with care.
Also, are we all agreed then, that rather than the items getting all destroyed, they are actually all okay-provided Mending and Stone-to-Flesh is cast in that order? Are we all agreed that Inflict Serious Wounds has no effect on the fighter since he was an "object" at the time?
1. Flesh to stone
2. Disintegrate
3. Mending
4. Stone to Flesh
And, if all the dust cannot be collected. (For me this is kinda a stretch, unless we imagine larger chuncks of rubble.) Then resurrection or true resurrection are needed instead of steps 3 and 4 above?
I had originally thought scattered dust would allow a true res, but on reflection they never did die. Stone to flesh then scattering the parts is the best method of trying to ensure an enemy stays gone forever, only way to prevent true res.
Mending could handle rubble, but dust should require make whole at least, and only if it hasn't been scattered past its area of effect. Maybe an earth or dust elemental could handle gathering it back together. If they get enough dust together but not enough to fully reconstitute him, stone to flesh will probably be enough to get him up to dead at which point resurrect could do the trick or he could be intact enough to come back alive but gear or parts could be missing.