Penalties for Natural Attacks combined with Weapons


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page 182 of the Core Rulebook wrote:

You can make attacks with natural weapons in

combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and
unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for
each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack
and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword.
When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your
natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks,
using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2
of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. In addition,
all of your attacks made with melee weapons and unarmed
strikes are made as if you were two-weapon fighting. Your
natural attacks are treated as light, off-hand weapons for
determining the penalty to your other attacks.
Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and Multiattack (see the Pathfinder
RPG Bestiary) can reduce these penalties.

But in the bestiary, none of the monsters follow this rule in regard to necessity of Two-Weapon Fighting or Multiattack feats. Creatures that use weapons and natural attacks have no penalties beyond their natural attacks being treated as secondary.

Is this just a mistake in the Core Book?


Yes, the core rule book is out of date for fighting with a Manufactured weapons and Nautral Weapons, use the Bestiary entry for this Natural Attacks - so no TWF fighting penalties to all attacks, just -5 or -2 to the natural attacks (and they all count as secondary attacks)

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