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Fantastic Gallery presents Sisters of Rapture!

Aphrodite. Isis. Freya. Since the dawn of civilization, these names have been synonymous with passion, beauty and pleasure. But even the goddesses of love have their enemies! Join this sexy sisterhood of magic and steel in their struggle to protect the innocent from sexual oppression and the mad desires of the cruel, the wasteful and the ugly. Born from the imagination of popular erotic artist, T.Catt, the Sisters of Rapture is a PFRPG-compatible sourcebook detailing the exploits and organization of a sect of all-female warrior priestesses who fight against the forces of darkness with magic, blade and raw sexual power, all in the name of divine love!

Inside you’ll find all you need to integrate this class into your campaign, including:

• The Sister of Rapture base class, retooled for the PFRPG!

• FIVE sexy prestige classes!

• New Traits, Class Archetypes and other information specific to the PFRPG!

• Erotic feats, spells and magic items!

• Erotic monsters and enemies!

• Details on the various goddesses of love and the Sisters of Rapture sect!

Also included: a "stripped" edition, free of art or graphics for easy printing and a 13-page full color character sheet designed specifically for Sisters of Rapture characters!

Also included is a host of all-new original erotic illustrations by internet favorites, T.Catt, Miravi, Anthony Carpenter, Thom Chiaramonte, Jaxtraw and more!

WARNING! CONTAINS ARTISTIC NUDITY AND ADULT MATERIAL!

Also, be sure to check out the Rapturous Factions Guide, a free web enhancement (also not safe for work).


Cool.

Liberty's Edge

Interesting. Sounds a bit like that infamous book WOTC released (and, I suspect, later wished they hadn't)

Just curious ... is this not available here on Paizo.com?

Liberty's Edge

Should be easy enough to adapt to Golarion, by having Calistria, Shelyn, and Desna or Sarenrae replace Aphrodite, Freya and Isis as the Three Faces of Love.


lonewolf23k wrote:
Should be easy enough to adapt to Golarion, by having Calistria, Shelyn, and Desna or Sarenrae replace Aphrodite, Freya and Isis as the Three Faces of Love.

Hmm... the only issue I can see with that is Calistria. She's not exactly a goddess of "love" per say. Definitely not in the way that Aphrodite, Freya and Isis are portrayed anyway.

Doesn't keep it from working of course. It just takes a bit of effort to adjust the flavour for a chaotic neutral goddess of lust, passion and revenge while keeping in with the sisterhood.

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Marc Radle wrote:

Interesting. Sounds a bit like that infamous book WOTC released (and, I suspect, later wished they hadn't)

Just curious ... is this not available here on Paizo.com?

WotC did not release that book, and as I recall, they changed the OGL to prevent that kind of book from happening again.

Paizo is great for having 'mature content', but I think this is probably a bit much even for them. I'd be surprised if it becomes available here.

The Exchange

Yes the famous, or is that infamous, book was made by a developer for WotC but was not in fact released by them. WotC was flabbergasted to say the least. Or so I had heard.

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Tobias wrote:
lonewolf23k wrote:
Should be easy enough to adapt to Golarion, by having Calistria, Shelyn, and Desna or Sarenrae replace Aphrodite, Freya and Isis as the Three Faces of Love.

Hmm... the only issue I can see with that is Calistria. She's not exactly a goddess of "love" per say. Definitely not in the way that Aphrodite, Freya and Isis are portrayed anyway.

Doesn't keep it from working of course. It just takes a bit of effort to adjust the flavour for a chaotic neutral goddess of lust, passion and revenge while keeping in with the sisterhood.

Aphrodite wasn't much of a "Love" goddess either.

Now I actually own the OGL version of this title, and I do have to ask something about this version, in terms of the mechanics: why not just convert them as a new Mystery for Oracles? The Sister of Rapture class is a spontaneous divine caster, Cha-based, with some powers that they choose at every few levels... Sounds basically like an Oracle to me. There could even be an Oracle's Curse for them something along the lines of the following:

Unhindered: You cannot wear armor at any time, and you lose all Armor Proficiency feats. In return you can add up to one point of your Cha modifier per class level to your AC as a sacred bonus.

Anyway, just a rough idea that I had reading over the preview and trying to decide if I want to pick up the PFRPG version or not.


Kvantum wrote:
Aphrodite wasn't much of a "Love" goddess either.

I'm referring more to the way she is described in this book, as opposed to the mythological one. The goddesses in SoR are much closer to Shelyn in their outlook than they are to Calistra. All of them are Good as well and look at the overall picture of Love, rather than focusing on it's physical aspect the way Calistra does.

It's a minor thing. SoRs are allowed to be Neutral, though all of the sampled goddesses are Good. It just means that it takes a little work to mesh Calistra's focus with a group that is much more rounded in its outlook.


Just bought a copy.

I've been working on a Charisma-based, divine-casting class, called the Sacred Consort, for my HB's goddess of passion/inspiration. It's not as overtly sexual as this class, but it might help to save me some time or at least give me something to balance against. (The SC is more like a bard-casting monk specialized in evasiveness and drawing attacks away from others.)

I do think it's interesting that the class in this book gains a Sacred bonus to AC. I had tried that at first also, but later changed it to deflection because I was worried it would be too over-powered since it could still stack with rings of protection otherwise. Maybe I should reconsider though...

Thanks for the linkage! :)


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Marc Radle wrote:
Just curious ... is this not available here on Paizo.com?
Wolfthulhu wrote:
Paizo is great for having 'mature content', but I think this is probably a bit much even for them. I'd be surprised if it becomes available here.

Hey guys, I'm not involved on the publishing side of things, but my understanding is that the publishers simply didn't consider selling through Paizo for whatever reason. Also, I can't speak for Paizo, but I'd be surprised if they were to decide that they didn't want this sold in their store - they sell 4E here, after all.

Kvantum wrote:
Now I actually own the OGL version of this title, and I do have to ask something about this version, in terms of the mechanics: why not just convert them as a new Mystery for Oracles?

Simply put, the author wasn't at all interested in having the Sister of Rapture class not be its own class. And, to a degree, I can agree with that; this might have been convertible into an oracle mystery, but it'd be quite a squeeze for all of the class options and abilities that are there.

Laithoron wrote:
I do think it's interesting that the class in this book gains a Sacred bonus to AC. I had tried that at first also, but later changed it to deflection because I was worried it would be too over-powered since it could still stack with rings of protection otherwise. Maybe I should reconsider though...

That was a bit of a back-and-forth. The eventual reasoning was that since their AC bonus is static (save for taking a feat for a small boost, or raising their Charisma), it'd be better for it not to be a deflection bonus, since they can't wear armor and would need to have other ways to pump up their AC.


Laithoron wrote:
I do think it's interesting that the class in this book gains a Sacred bonus to AC. I had tried that at first also, but later changed it to deflection because I was worried it would be too over-powered since it could still stack with rings of protection otherwise. Maybe I should reconsider though...
Alzrius wrote:
That was a bit of a back-and-forth. The eventual reasoning was that since their AC bonus is static (save for taking a feat for a small boost, or raising their Charisma), it'd be better for it not to be a deflection bonus, since they can't wear armor and would need to have other ways to pump up their AC.

That makes sense. In my case I had the AC bonus increase at about the same rate as a monk's for much the same reason — Sacred Consorts are not only non-proficient with armor they are prohibited from wearing it. I've been thinking about converting the Sacred Consort into a prestige class lately, so this definitely gives me a few things to consider...


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This just in from Fantastic Gallery:

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We are pleased to announce that both the OGL and PFRPG editions of Sisters of Rapture are now available in print through DriveThruRPG's Print-On-Demand service! Both editions contain the same full-color interiors that you've come to enjoy in our digital editions, as well as a few extra bonuses, including d20 Modern Sisters of Rapture and Epic Characters (OGL edition only), the Rapturous Factions Guide (PFRPG edition only) and the Nefer-Sefet prestige class (both editions). Also included in both editions is an exclusive sketchbook featuring never-before-seen artwork by T.Catt and other contributing artists!


Alzrius wrote:

This just in from Fantastic Gallery:

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We are pleased to announce that both the OGL and PFRPG editions of Sisters of Rapture are now available in print through DriveThruRPG's Print-On-Demand service! Both editions contain the same full-color interiors that you've come to enjoy in our digital editions, as well as a few extra bonuses, including d20 Modern Sisters of Rapture and Epic Characters (OGL edition only), the Rapturous Factions Guide (PFRPG edition only) and the Nefer-Sefet prestige class (both editions). Also included in both editions is an exclusive sketchbook featuring never-before-seen artwork by T.Catt and other contributing artists!

Ordered my PoD copy yesterday!


Alzrius wrote:

This just in from Fantastic Gallery:

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We are pleased to announce that both the OGL and PFRPG editions of Sisters of Rapture are now available in print through DriveThruRPG's Print-On-Demand service! Both editions contain the same full-color interiors that you've come to enjoy in our digital editions, as well as a few extra bonuses, including d20 Modern Sisters of Rapture and Epic Characters (OGL edition only), the Rapturous Factions Guide (PFRPG edition only) and the Nefer-Sefet prestige class (both editions). Also included in both editions is an exclusive sketchbook featuring never-before-seen artwork by T.Catt and other contributing artists!

Print edition?? Great news, just bought mine!


Holy crap I haven't seen the gang in ages.

(CSB) Used to be in a forum/mailing list type thing for when this was being hashed out. Glad to see it made it fully to fruition.
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I am ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL over this.


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TheAntiElite wrote:

Holy crap I haven't seen the gang in ages.

(CSB) Used to be in a forum/mailing list type thing for when this was being hashed out. Glad to see it made it fully to fruition.
(/CSB)

Wow, so you've been waiting quite a bit longer than most! I wasn't part of that old group; I first heard about this book when the OGL version came out a few years ago - if it took this long to get the PF version out, I can only imagine what it felt like waiting for the OGL release!


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Hey there folks! Talon Dunning, artist and publisher for Fantastic Gallery here. I thought I'd address some of your questions here directly.

-Publishing via Paizo: I would love to distribute our digital products via Paizo's store, however, we are under an exclusive contract with OneBookShelf (they run DriveThruRPG and RPGNow). When we signed up for DriveThru's service, I had to decide whether to be exclusive and get a higher percentage of the sales or settle for less and try to make up the difference here. I figured that it would probably work out to about the same and went with that was, essentially, the simpler choice. It has nothing to do with Paizo not allowing adult content in their store. As far as I know, there is no such ban on adult material here. The only thing that the book's adult content prevented us from doing was including the Pathfinder Compatibility logo or otherwise claiming PF Compatibility on the cover (hence the use of the term "PFRPG" instead of "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game"). Otherwise, it's just another OGL product.

-Pathfinder goddesses for SoR: I ran this one by T.Catt. Here's his response:
"This has been brought up before. Obviously, I can't include the Golarion goddesses, specifically, due to copyright, but, that doesn't mean I'm not planning on addressing them. I'm currently in the planning stages of an SoR supplement called 'The Book of Divine Love' that will detail just about every mythological love-goddess I can find as well as a handful of original 'fantasy' goddesses. The fantasy goddesses will contain obvious allegories to proprietary characters such as Sune from Forgotten Realms and Shelyn and Callistria from Golarion. They will sport different names to avoid infringement, but will be close enough to the originals that they can easily be used as substitutions for SoR characters playing in those settings. I'm aware of the challenge that Callistria poses to the established mantra of the SoR and that will be addressed in her doppleganger's entry. Callistria is one of my favorite deities from the Pathfinder setting, so I'm looking forward to finding a place for her in the Sisters of Rapture."

In the meantime, we suggest that if you want to play a Sister of Rapture in a Golarion game, stick to Shelyn and either assign her Aphrodite's Love's Blessings or make up some of your own.

-SoR as Oracle mystery; Frankly, that never occurred to me. The Oracle (or Pathfinder in general for that matter) didn't exist when T.Catt was writing the original OGL book and the Oracle class came out while Shane and I were in the process of doing the PF conversion. To rework the class as an Oracle mystery would have, essentially, completely undermined the Sisters of Rapture as a stand-alone product. The book exists as a base class and crunch support for that base class. Without the base class, the book becomes a much weaker product, more along the lines of a $4 supplement rather than a stand-alone book. So even if we were designing this thing from scratch today, it would probably still be its own thing. It makes more sense from a business standpoint. Now, that being said, making an SoR Oracle mystery isn't a terrible idea. Shane's creation of the SoR as a stand-alone faction actually opens them up to other classes, and Oracles would fit in nicely, as would clerics or even paladins. I would imagine that the vast majority of the Rapturous would still have levels of SoR, though.

-Sacred AC bonus: From T.Catt: "I did consider, very carefully, if I wanted the Distracting Beauty ability to stack with other bonuses and I eventually settled on 'yes.' The reason for this is, essentially, conceptual. The entire inspiration for the SoR in the first place was the classic fantasy art depictions of naked or semi-naked women who are obviously efficient warriors despite their total lack of physical protection. I figured in order to achieve this, I needed to make it so that the SoR characters could still maintain a decent AC even without armor. If the Distracting Beauty bonus didn't stack with other non-armor-provided bonuses, it would be difficult to make a naked character with a decent AC. The SoR may be spellcasters, but they're also supposed to be able to handle themselves in melee combat as well, so its essential that their AC be as high as one can get it without wearing any armor."

-The BoEF: Valar's Book of Erotic Fantasy was, indeed, the book that caused WOtC to alter the old d20 System License to prevent the inclusion of adult material, which forced Valar to publish under the OGL instead. By the time we were ready to publish the original SoR book in 2008, the d20 GSL had been pulled by WOtC in general in favor of the new 4th edition GSL (which also includes a community standards clause preventing us from ever creating a 4e version of the class), so the OGL was literally our only choice. Honestly this didn't bother us too much since "OGL" has become synonymous with "d20 System" anyway.

Thanks for your interest in the Sisters of Rapture. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask them and either myself, Shane or T.Catt will be glad to get you answers.

-Talon

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Just curious but after a year of exclusive deal can't you then sell on other places as well? I only ask cause I know Purple Duck Publishing did that and after a year added their products on Paizo as well.


Thanks for the comments, Talon!

Looking forward to the further books. Is there any chance that Beauties & Beasts or The Book of Divine Love will include an alternate class like the Anti-paladin (Sisters of Lust?), such as for sisters who fall away from the core tenants of their faiths and embrace views more appropriate for followers of the likes of Lamashtu (Goddess of Madness, Monsters and Nightmares), Nocticula (Demon Lord of Assassins, Darkness and Lust), Socothbenoth (Demon Lord of Perversions, Pride and Taboo), Zaebos (Infernal Duke of Arrogance, Nobility and Sexual Perversion) or Zepar (Infernal Duke of Abduction, Rape and Transformation)*.

I don't know if it would really require a full alternate class, as it might work with an Archetype that allows for Evil Sisters, change out one or two of their Kiss of Power options and their Sisterhood/Motherhood features, along with a different Love's Blessing to choose from for the evil god/goddesses.

It might be something that could be introduced in Beauties & Beasts and expanded in The Book of Divine Love, perhaps even as a faction.

Just a suggestion.

*Most of which would obviously need some form of analog for copyright purposes.

Edit: On a completely different not, absolutely love your work. It was one of my favourite things about the 3e Ravenloft line. You really captured the feeling of the setting and the different character portraits.


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Tobias wrote:
Is there any chance that Beauties & Beasts or The Book of Divine Love will include an alternate class like the Anti-paladin (Sisters of Lust?)

Fun fact, the Autarch Sorority in the Factions Guide started out as an attempt to create an evil analogue of the Sisters of Rapture. Though of course, the end result was something quite different.


Alzrius wrote:
Tobias wrote:
Is there any chance that Beauties & Beasts or The Book of Divine Love will include an alternate class like the Anti-paladin (Sisters of Lust?)
Fun fact, the Autarch Sorority in the Factions Guide started out as an attempt to create an evil analogue of the Sisters of Rapture. Though of course, the end result was something quite different.

I kind of figured as much. I could also see a number of corrupted Sisters being members of the more militant wing of that order.


On a conceptual level I am o.k. with this but was the inclusion of graphic art necessary? Please tell me you don't have any mechanics for the deed like that infamous book did.

Also, wouldn't Hathor have been a better choice than Isis?


The NPC wrote:

On a conceptual level I am o.k. with this but was the inclusion of graphic art necessary? Please tell me you don't have any mechanics for the deed like that infamous book did.

Also, wouldn't Hathor have been a better choice than Isis?

The PDF download comes with two editions. The normal one and then the "Stripped" version which has no art.

As for mechanics, there's a Perform skill that gives bonuses or penalties to social checks with the partner. It is literally "You rolled high? You both had a good time." Nothing more complex than that.


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The NPC wrote:
On a conceptual level I am o.k. with this but was the inclusion of graphic art necessary?

Simply put, yes. Yes it was.

Given that this book is about a mystery cult that focuses on love, with a heavy emphasis on physical love, and draws a good bit of their power from being scantily clad, having artwork with them covered up wouldn't have made a lot of sense.

As Tobias noted, however, there's a graphics-free "stripped" version.

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Please tell me you don't have any mechanics for the deed like that infamous book did.

There is a Perform (sexual techniques) skill, if that's what you mean.

The nature of that skill is one of the things that changed between the OGL version and this version. The previous version didn't really have a mechanical impact; I lobbied for a change this time around - now the skill grants a bonus on social checks, and the DC of mind-affecting effects.

The rationale for the change was that a skill with no mechanical bonus - barring the wide applicability of the Knowledge skills - was a waste of skill points. Why take ranks in a skill that granted you nothing when there were skills like Perception, Stealth, Sense Motive, and others out there? So this time around, we had it grant a bonus to certain other things.

But as Tobias stated, there's no reason why you can't have it be less than that, however, or even ignore the skill entirely if you like (though that'll impact one or two other parts of the book, e.g. a trait and a domain power).

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Also, wouldn't Hathor have been a better choice than Isis?

That one wasn't up to me. I'd imagine it was because Isis was more popularly-known, and had a wider in-game applicability since she's also a goddess of arcane magic.


Alzrius wrote:
The NPC wrote:
On a conceptual level I am o.k. with this but was the inclusion of graphic art necessary?

Simply put, yes. Yes it was.

Given that this book is about a mystery cult that focuses on love, with a heavy emphasis on physical love, and draws a good bit of their power from being scantily clad, having artwork with them covered up wouldn't have made a lot of sense.

As Tobias noted, however, there's a graphics-free "stripped" version.

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Please tell me you don't have any mechanics for the deed like that infamous book did.

There is a Perform (sexual techniques) skill, if that's what you mean.

The nature of that skill is one of the things that changed between the OGL version and this version. The previous version didn't really have a mechanical impact; I lobbied for a change this time around - now the skill grants a bonus on social checks, and the DC of mind-affecting effects.

The rationale for the change was that a skill with no mechanical bonus - barring the wide applicability of the Knowledge skills - was a waste of skill points. Why take ranks in a skill that granted you nothing when there were skills like Perception, Stealth, Sense Motive, and others out there? So this time around, we had it grant a bonus to certain other things.

But as Tobias stated, there's no reason why you can't have it be less than that, however, or even ignore the skill entirely if you like (though that'll impact one or two other parts of the book, e.g. a trait and a domain power).

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Also, wouldn't Hathor have been a better choice than Isis?
That one wasn't up to me. I'd imagine it was because Isis was more popularly-known, and had a wider in-game applicability since she's also a goddess of arcane magic.

And it had nothing to do with her having a cow head? ;o)


The NPC wrote:
And it had nothing to do with her having a cow head? ;o)

Actually, Hathor is mentioned very briefly and Sisters who dedicate themselves to the Pharaonic pantheon can choose between Hathor and Isis. Mechanically, they use the same list of Love's Blessings abilities to choose from, except those dedicated to Isis can choose an ability called Mother's Magic and can grant a bonus to Knowledge (arcana) checks with the Patron's Blessing ability, while those who follow Hathor can instead choose the Mother's Luck ability instead of Mother's Magic and grant a bonus to Perform checks with Patron's Blessing.

The text explains why Isis gets more face time though. Not a detailed explanation, but enough of one to answer the question.


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Dark_Mistress wrote:
Just curious but after a year of exclusive deal can't you then sell on other places as well? I only ask cause I know Purple Duck Publishing did that and after a year added their products on Paizo as well.

I need to check back here for replies more often... As I recall, the length of exclusivity (and how long you're with DriveThru in general) is determined by the contract one signs when they sign up for the service. I signed a three-year contract, covering 2008-2011. However, the contract automatically renews for another specified period unless one takes steps to cancel it at the end of its run. Honestly, had I thought about it before it renewed, I would have considered changing it to a non-exclusive contract and selling through Paizo as well, but I literally forgot about it until it had already rolled over into a new contract period. I'm not terribly broken up about it, though. DriveThru gives a decent percentage for exclusive members and it does make the bookkeeping easier.

Tobias wrote:
Looking forward to the further books. Is there any chance that Beauties & Beasts or The Book of Divine Love will include an alternate class like the Anti-paladin (Sisters of Lust?)

That's a cool idea, actually, and one I'd not considered until now (outside of Shane's female supremacy faction that eventually became the Autarch Sorority). I'm not sure what book it would be the most appropriate for, but I bet we could find a home for it somewhere. I ran it by T.Catt (SoR's creator and author) and he liked it as well. If we use it, I'll make sure you get a "Special Thanks" credit! Thanks for the idea!

Tobias wrote:
Edit: On a completely different not, absolutely love your work. It was one of my favourite things about the 3e Ravenloft line. You really captured the feeling of the setting and the different character portraits.

Thanks! The work I did for White Wolf's Ravenloft setting still remains a highlight of my career and the work for which I am most regularly recognized. I was disappointed to learn that WOtC dropped their plans for a 4e Ravenloft boxed set. While I didn't anticipate getting any work for it, it would have been nice to see se setting in print again. First and foremost, I'm a fan!

The NPC wrote:
On a conceptual level I am o.k. with this but was the inclusion of graphic art necessary? Please tell me you don't have any mechanics for the deed like that infamous book did.

Alzirus fielded this one pretty well. I'll add that the Sisters of Rapture were, from their very beginnings, an homage to "erotic" fantasy art, or, at the very least, the common inclusion of the mostly-naked heroines in the genre. T.Catt himself has said that he was originally inspired to create the SoR (originally called the "Warriors of Rapture") after viewing the work of Luis Royo (These two pics, specifically: "Immaculate" and "The Seeds of Nothing") and discussing with friends why a woman would chose to fight demons in the buff. The Sisters of Rapture are the answer to that question. So, not including nudity in the book would have been something of an injustice to the original inspiration. Also, there's the fact that T.Catt is a near-legendary "Rule 34" artist who's been around for, like, EVER. One of the things that made me want to take up this project was the art. We were both very disappointed in the photographic illustrations in the BoEF (although they DO get points for thinking outside the box) and wanted to make sure that our book looked really spectacular. NOT putting erotic art in the book was never even a question.

As for "rules for sex," we wanted to specifically avoid that. That was something I was very adamant about during the book's development. I thought that was a bad idea to begin with, for one thing, and, frankly, the BoEF had that covered. I saw no reason to repeat what they'd done, aside from the inclusion of the Perform (sexual techniques) skill, which was simply necessary to cover some mechanical details of the classes and such. I was hesitant to allow Alzirus to alter the skill's mechanics for the PFRPG translation, but I saw his point rather quickly and relented to allowing it to actually DO something in-game.

The NPC wrote:
Also, wouldn't Hathor have been a better choice than Isis?

I ran this question by T.Catt. Here's his response: "I considered that, actually, and with Hathor being the Egyptian goddess of love and mirth, it seems like a great idea, but the fact of the matter is that Hathor just doesn't have the prestige and instant recognizability that Isis does. Also, I wanted the Trinity of Love to represent three basic approaches to SoR characters: romance, passion and feminine power. Aphrodite is romance, Freya is passion and Isis is feminine power. While each certainly has aspects of all three traits, I thought that these three goddesses each represented those particular concepts pretty strongly. That said, I did give Hathor her due as the more dedicated Egyptian love-goddess by including her in the Love's Blessings of the base SoR class. Her Rapturous don't carry the political power within the faction that the Isisians do, of course, but they are represented. Hathor may get a more detailed entry in The Book of Divine Love, though, as will the lusty cat-goddess, Bast (who will also have some interesting representation in Beauties & Beasts -assuming I can make that one work out). We'll see how that goes. And yes, I'll admit that her having a cow's head DID play a factor in picking Isis over Hathor, but not as much as you might think."

Thanks for your comments and questions!

-Talon


First off, I LOVE the SoR books. Much better than the BoEF.
As for the future Book of Divine Love, I have a deity in my custom campaign world who is the goddess of passion, both love and battle. If you need an extra deity, let me know and I can send the info your way, as well as a paladin of passion who is her descendant/champion.
Looking forward to more great work from you guys.


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Warhawk7 wrote:

First off, I LOVE the SoR books. Much better than the BoEF.

As for the future Book of Divine Love, I have a deity in my custom campaign world who is the goddess of passion, both love and battle. If you need an extra deity, let me know and I can send the info your way, as well as a paladin of passion who is her descendant/champion.
Looking forward to more great work from you guys.

Again, sorry for the late reply. T.Catt is, indeed, looking for new ideas for original goddesses for The Book of Divine Love, so when the time comes, we may just contact you regarding your idea. Catt is currently working on the SoR Modern Path edition and Beauties & Beasts, so BoDL isn't really gotten underway yet, but it IS on the docket for future development and we're hoping we can get to it sooner rather than later. None of us does this primarily, so work is a bit slow-going... The down-side of small-press publishing, I suppose.

I'm very pleased that you like our book and I hope the upcoming supplements will live up to your expectations! ;-)

-Talon


I bought the PFRPG version of Sisters of Rapture earlier this year, then a Print-on-Demand copy a couple of months later. It's clearly not for every gaming group, but this supplement is a goldmine of RP potential, starting with the SoR class itself but mostly found in the section on the Sisters of Rapture, and their rivals and enemies, as political-spiritual movements. A group of people whose primary goal is to spread joy and happiness throughout the world? Makes a nice change from all those grim, staid paladins and the distinctly funless Hellknights, much less the endless parade of grasping, self-important Big Bads. :D
Yes, most of the artwork shows rather more naughty bits than is usually found in gaming products, but to my eye, every single piece is entirely purposeful and relevant to/illustrative of the text.

Unfortunately, I have the sort of eye and mind which automatically pick out, then get unreasonably hung-up-on, otherwise-minor typos and other writing issues. :S Alzrius, Talon Dunning: where would be the best place to submit a list of errata and corrections?

And while we're waiting for The Book of Divine Love: what is the team's position regarding fan-created original goddesses (or fan-conversions of goddesses from other published worlds) for use as sponsoring deities for Sister of Rapture? Say someone's working up, say, one or more of the Forgotten Realms' goddesses as members of the SoR movement, including unique Love's Blessings. Would T.Catt and the team be okay with a fan-work like that being posted into a thread like this, or would you prefer that fans not do things like that within your sight for legal reasons?
(I ask this because one of the other boards I frequent has a strict policy of 'no fan material where the dev-team can see it'. They can't accept the risk of accidentally using someone else's material and opening themselves to law-suits.... :( )


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Trace, first, thanks for all the kind words! I also think that the book has a lot of great flavor material that really helps to make the material in the book not only easy to use in most campaigns, but brings great new role-playing opportunities also.

I was the editor for the book, so any errors that slipped into the final copy are best hung around my neck (though I'd want to double-check that you got the errata file that was issued several months ago?). PM me for where to send a list of errata.

I can't speak for Talon in regards to publishing fan-based material for SoR here, but my personal opinion is that it's alright, presuming that it complies with the Paizo's policies for posting fan-based works on their message boards.

Liberty's Edge

Is this book and the classes/prestige classes/feats inside strictly for women characters?


The classes and prestige classes can only be taken by female characters but there is material that can be used by male characters as well.

Liberty's Edge

Debihuman wrote:
The classes and prestige classes can only be taken by female characters but there is material that can be used by male characters as well.

A disappointment but thank you for answering.


Are there any neutral evil erotic monsters? My Sorcerer of Lust will eventually take the leadership feat and he's looking for an interesting cohort. :P


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Shalastar Lerin wrote:
Are there any neutral evil erotic monsters? My Sorcerer of Lust will eventually take the leadership feat and he's looking for an interesting cohort. :P

There aren't any Neutral Evil monsters in the book, per se. There is, however, a half-nymph template that might be fun on an evil cohort.

Far more fun, I think, would be to have a NE huldra (a CN monster from the book) that your character is married to. Since they have class levels (no natural Hit Dice), and need to get married young (otherwise they take massive Charisma penalties as they age) your character could have a pretty young wife that needs to be faithful to him, lest he divorce her.


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Addressing some of the recent posts...

Trace Coburn wrote:
Yes, most of the artwork shows rather more naughty bits than is usually found in gaming products, but to my eye, every single piece is entirely purposeful and relevant to/illustrative of the text.

Indeed it is, especially since, according to T.Catt, the entire point of the book is to explain the presence of the traditional semi-nude and "chain-mail bikini babes" in fantasy illustration. While many people simply complain about how unrealistic such characters are, T.Catt wrote this book as a way of explaining why and how they might exist in the first place. As such, NOT having such illustrations in the book would have undermined the very point.

Trace Coburn wrote:
Unfortunately, I have the sort of eye and mind which automatically pick out, then get unreasonably hung-up-on, otherwise-minor typos and other writing issues. :S Alzrius, Talon Dunning: where would be the best place to submit a list of errata and corrections?

At this point, we've edited and re-edited both versions of the book several times, correcting not only minor grammatical errors, but problems with the system as well. To be honest, while we certainly appreciate your vigilance in this regard, chances are that, unless there's a further problem with the game rules themselves, it's doubtful that we'll be putting out yet another errata edition just to dot a few I's and cross a few T's. The work that goes into that is considerable and, frankly, at this point, we need to be looking forward to new projects, not constantly perfecting past ones. Alzirus has sent me your errata list, though, and I'll be looking it over soon. I do appreciate your efforts in this matter.

Trace Coburn wrote:
And while we're waiting for The Book of Divine Love: what is the team's position regarding fan-created original goddesses (or fan-conversions of goddesses from other published worlds) for use as sponsoring deities for Sister of Rapture? Say someone's working up, say, one or more of the Forgotten Realms' goddesses as members of the SoR movement, including unique Love's Blessings. Would T.Catt and the team be okay with a fan-work like that being posted into a thread like this, or would you prefer that fans not do things like that within your sight for legal reasons?

I'm fine with it in principal, however, you might be interested to know that we have plans to include such as you're describing in the Book of Divine Love. While we can't, of course, use copyrighted names, our plan is to include "original" fantasy goddesses that will be similar enough to goddesses like Sune and Shelyn so that they may easily stand in for those characters. We'll also be including a few wholly original characters. We don't like creating in a vacuum and, as such, we've always invited fans to help us with our development process. Several of the feats, spells and magic items in the initial OGL version of Sisters of Rapture were created by, or at least suggested by, fans. So while you may post original SoR stuff here, even fan-made stuff for existing settings, please be aware that it's likely that our official material will eventually override it and you'll lose the chance to have it appear in the actual book, as we won't consider anything that's already been released to the public. If you send it to us privately (or, more specifically, to T.Catt at tcatt@comcast.net), we'll look it over and see if it's something we might want to eventually use. If we do, you get a free PDF copy of the book and a special thanks credit.

Misery wrote:
Is this book and the classes/prestige classes/feats inside strictly for women characters?

The base class and prestige classes are as that was, as explained, the point. Most of the feats supplement the class, so they'd be limited as well. Other aspects aren't so restricted. For instance, the Carnal domain is available to the Rapturous, but also to clerics of love, lust, feminine power or other conceptually related deities (as you GM allows). The spells are appropriate for clerics of both Sheylyn and Calistria (even though Calistrian philosophy is incompatible with that 0f the Sisters of Rapture). 'm currently playing a Calistrian cleric in a Pathfinder campaign and was able to take a feat from Sisters of Rapture, so there is material there that's useful to non-Rapturous... Just not a lot.

That said, we have looked into the concept of how the Rapturous deal with their menfolk and how to include them in the fun as well. We've had some idea submissions from a fan on the subject matter and will likely be addressing that issue in a future supplement... Although it's not appropriate for any of our current projects, so we're not sure where it will go at this point. But, even when that does happen, the Sisters of Rapture will remain an all-female organization and the SoR class will remain limited to female PCs.

Shalastar Lerin wrote:
Are there any neutral evil erotic monsters? My Sorcerer of Lust will eventually take the leadership feat and he's looking for an interesting cohort. :P

Alzirus did a good job answering this one, but I'll go ahead and add that T.Catt and Co. are currently working on a book called Sisters of Rapture: Beauties & Beasts which will essentially be an erotic monster manual. While I'm not 100% certain of the alignment of every monster currently in development, it's possible that something more suited might eventually be found there. We're hoping to have that book ready later this year (2013).


Talon Dunning wrote:
Trace Coburn wrote:
Yes, most of the artwork shows rather more naughty bits than is usually found in gaming products, but to my eye, every single piece is entirely purposeful and relevant to/illustrative of the text.
Indeed it is, especially since, according to T.Catt, the entire point of the book is to explain the presence of the traditional semi-nude and "chain-mail bikini babes" in fantasy illustration. While many people simply complain about how unrealistic such characters are, T.Catt wrote this book as a way of explaining why and how they might exist in the first place. As such, NOT having such illustrations in the book would have undermined the very point.

[wince] I knew that from the outset (indeed, I checked out the samples a couple of years ago), and it’s a good part of why I finally bought the whole thing. ;) That remark was meant as a compliment for the artwork’s being well-handled, tasteful, and very pleasant to the eye, and since it clearly wound up more backhanded than I intended, I apologise unreservedly.

(That said, it was also meant as something of an eye-roll at the ‘moral guardians’ who would hear the term ‘gaming supplement’ and assume it’s aimed at kids, regardless of the clear content warning on the cover, then look at the picture of an attractive blonde woman on p.9 and kick up more of a stink about her being topless than about her dismembering someone with an axe.)

Talon Dunning wrote:
At this point, we've edited and re-edited both versions of the book several times, correcting not only minor grammatical errors, but problems with the system as well. To be honest, while we certainly appreciate your vigilance in this regard, chances are that, unless there's a further problem with the game rules themselves, it's doubtful that we'll be putting out yet another errata edition just to dot a few I's and cross a few T's. The work that goes into that is considerable and, frankly, at this point, we need to be looking forward to new projects, not constantly perfecting past ones. Alzirus has sent me your errata list, though, and I'll be looking it over soon. I do appreciate your efforts in this matter.

Fair enough. I’ve had enough of a ‘peek behind the curtain’ at another gaming company that I understand that releasing new content has to take top priority, so I always figured that minor bug-fixes would be a matter of ‘when/if we get the chance’, but even so I had to do something to shut up that nagging voice in the back of my head. Now that I’ve made my gesture towards quality-assurance, I can go back to enjoying the product in its own right. :)

Talon Dunning wrote:
Trace Coburn wrote:
And while we're waiting for The Book of Divine Love: what is the team's position regarding fan-created original goddesses (or fan-conversions of goddesses from other published worlds) for use as sponsoring deities for Sister of Rapture?
I'm fine with it in principle, however, you might be interested to know that we have plans to include such as you're describing in the Book of Divine Love. While we can't, of course, use copyrighted names, our plan is to include "original" fantasy goddesses that will be similar enough to goddesses like Sune and Shelyn so that they may easily stand in for those characters. We'll also be including a few wholly original characters. We don't like creating in a vacuum and, as such, we've always invited fans to help us with our development process. Several of the feats, spells and magic items in the initial OGL version of Sisters of Rapture were created by, or at least suggested by, fans. So while you may post original SoR stuff here, even fan-made stuff for existing settings, please be aware that it's likely that our official material will eventually override it and you'll lose the chance to have it appear in the actual book, as we won't consider anything that's already been released to the public. If you send it to us privately (or, more specifically, to T.Catt at tcatt@comcast.net), we'll look it over and see if it's something we might want to eventually use. If we do, you get a free PDF copy of the book and a special thanks credit.

... I may well take you up on that offer.


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Trace Coburn wrote:
[wince]...and since it clearly wound up more backhanded than I intended, I apologise unreservedly.

No worries. The book's intent is simply something that we all want to make sure people are aware of. While there's certainly a certain level of prurience to the material, its existence as an homage to a specific fantasy illustration troupe should be first and foremost in people's minds when they read it.


"I cast "Raise Dead" on this thread..."

Hi, there. Has anyone used the "Sisters of Rapture" for adventures in Golarion?
Which female deities of Golarion have you used?
Any experience would be interesting.

Grand Lodge

How's the Sisters of Rapture: Beauties & Beasts coming along? I did a Google search today and couldn't find anything as of yet.


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kevin_video wrote:
How's the Sisters of Rapture: Beauties & Beasts coming along? I did a Google search today and couldn't find anything as of yet.

It's currently stalled, though not cancelled.

Grand Lodge

Alzrius wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
How's the Sisters of Rapture: Beauties & Beasts coming along? I did a Google search today and couldn't find anything as of yet.
It's currently stalled, though not cancelled.

Good to know.


Talon Dunning wrote:
Trace Coburn wrote:
[wince]...and since it clearly wound up more backhanded than I intended, I apologise unreservedly.
No worries. The book's intent is simply something that we all want to make sure people are aware of. While there's certainly a certain level of prurience to the material, its existence as an homage to a specific fantasy illustration troupe should be first and foremost in people's minds when they read it.

I just bought your book, and have been trying to make a Freya inspired Chainmail Bikini Barbarian--it really excites my boyfriend ^-^

However, I find that other than the base class, there is little that makes me want to use the rest of the book, and especially not the skills. They seem to be for a character that specializes in a profession, not an adventurer. The base class itself is fine. Pure Cha casting, and a sacred bonus to AC makes a good chassis for both a full caster and CoDzilla, if you'll pardon me the term. But after that the issues start.

No mount. The stereotypical Amazon from movies and Conan the Barbarian stories will spend a lot of time on horseback, but there is no Ride skill or mount option. Even ladies of standing would know how to ride horses. Given the legends about unicorns only being able to be tamed by maidens, I expected there to be an option to bond with one as preparation for the indoctrination--and would you look at that phallus imagery on his head?! Since Rapturous tend to be the Saving People kind of heroes in many cases, they would be expected to travel a lot so I really wanted a mount. By using the Abbess archetype I could get the Animal (Feather) domain, but then the next issues start. I would lose the Carnal spells, and my martial weapon proficiency. Not only would I lose the weapons which nearly as much as the armor define the stereotype of a Chainmail Bikini Barbarian, but now I would not ever have nor use the Sex spells. RAW they are not part of the normal cleric list--I think--but even if they were, why would I ever take them? They are extremely specialized and even if in the presence of opponents susceptible to Mind Affecting spells, would often "shoot themselves in the nuts".

Given how few spells a spontaneous caster has, they have to be ones that I would either use often, or would be gamechangers. An example of a spell that could have been in the book is the effect that's on the cursed boots.

SPEEDY UNDRESS (Clr 1) With a word and a gesture the target’s clothes fall away from their body, leaving them naked apart from the boots they are standing in. This includes any armour but does not include helmets, hats or jewellery.

The original purpose of this spell was for ogling and pranks, as well as saving time when engaged in quick knee-tremblers behind taverns. It has since been misused by adventurers for denuding their targets of their armour to make them easier kills, but its original purpose remains popular.

Now this spell isn't optimal, but it's fun and useful enough I might take it instead of Air Bubble.

VIBRATOR (Clr 2) This spell infuses the target object with magical energy, setting it slightly out of phase with the native plane upon which it is cast. This causes the object to waver between the planes and vibrate at pleasant amplitude.

The spell’s original applications was to disarm opponents and deprive them of wands, but the applications for pleasure are obvious. If cast on a held object, such as a sword, it can make that difficult to keep hold of. Whoever is holding the object must make a Reflex save (DC 15) or drop the object. If cast on a suitable item, such as a pair of hose, the target will be incredibly distracted for the duration of the spell and suffer a -1 penalty to AC, attack rolls, saving throws and skill checks until they can remove the item.

Again, fun yet naughty, and could be used in PG 13 games. But this is where we get to the main issue of the book, and that is that there is no synergy. Both spells so far where physical spells, and that is necessary given the overly large number of situations where Mind Affecting spells are useless, and even if they are not, then the spells themselves will explicitly forbid me from using them, since they only work on people I am trying to seduce, and who are both humanoid, hetero sexual males, or lesbians. If they are not this narrow category then a seductress is powerless, and there's nothing I can do to change that. You can't even tangle with the iconic seductive monsters like vampires and succubi. One is undead, the other is an Outsider and doesn't really have biology like us though I might be wrong. Anyway, I would expect a transmutation spell that enhances pheromones and forces attraction. Maybe a Change Orientation spell, or a Shiva Shapeshift that grew extra arms--bonus to Sex performances and number of attacks. Enlarge Person or a limited Alter Self could also be used for the bedroom and dungeon alike. Given how much they are supposedly spending their time in the dark, so would a supernatural night vision even for humans but that's not really something that's the responsibility of this book.

And then there's the skills. Other than for a very specific few campaigns, they are useless, and with only 2 skill points per level I am not going to use them ever. The Knowledge could be done with a Knowledge Local check in many cases. Now, if it were made clear that they can be used for Bardic Performances then that might be fine, but it's very clearly not even useable for dancing or oratory performances--not even belly dancing. I would have given an option to add a bonus to them for half your level. It's not something your character specializes in, but she has picked up enough. But even if you had points in it, you need feats to have a Pillow Talk, something I can do quite nicely in real life without a feat. The feats too are not really something useful. Charmed I'm Sure has potential, but roleplaying is usually done through roleplaying. Blown Kiss and Ethereal Kiss? For an ability I can only use 1-2 times per day for most of my career, this is not worth it. Kisses are nice, but not that special unless the Sleep effect is perhaps not bound by HD. Healing Caress I could see myself taking, but Cure spells aren't a priority for Spontaneous Divine casters. I would rather prevent damage and then out of combat use Infernal Healing or a wand, and neither of these seem to be affected by it. Orgasmic Spell can be good, as it only takes a single level higher slot, but it can only be used against a single target and will only work one turn. If you are concerned about single targets then it's probably an enemy strong enough to make its saving throw, and even if it doesn't, the effect is good but again it doesn't even work on an intelligent vampire. Improved Disctracting Beauty adds 2 AC, but can be defeated by things that make me covered such as simply having to wear clothes or be in a concealing mist.

Clothes. That's another issue: it's not actually spelled out whether or not Rapturous are bothered by weather and sunlight. Clerics get Comfortable Nudity, but Rapturous don't, meaning I will need to either spend all my spell slots on Endure Elements, lose my AC bonus by wearing protective clothing, or convince my hubby that Immunity to Disease means I am also unbothered by the causes of disease.

Finally, there's Popular. I can understand not wanting to tangle with the Leadership feat, but getting clues is something that the DM will provide for already, ooooor, Perform Sexual Techniques. And that is where we get to the weakest part of the book. There is no use for taking points in its most iconic activity. The effect of Popular and Pillow Talk are things I would expect to be a result of being a living angel of love and fertility who has a lot of points in Perform Sexual Acts. Maybe it could act as a bonus in unarmed grapple checks, escape artist, or Perform Oratory and Dancing. Maybe even Feint and a "Disarming Smile".

I am sorry if this all a lot. I really like the book, the art work, and the concept, which is why I want to see more of it. My DM is convinced this whole book is for NPC's and advises against taking more than a few levels in this "roleplay" class.

Things I would like to ask: can a Rapturous use a Kiss on herself? How about Sacred Prostitute, once per day on yourself? Could I trade the possible spells known of Abbess for Sacred Prostitute? Pleeeaase? What happens if a Rapturous is turned male? What if she needs to act amongst other races, or she needs to cater to a certain kink? Could there be spells like "enlarge breasts", "alter genitalia" or "Dream Body"? I bet a Storm Sister would love to give men a taste of their own medicine by letting them be a woman for a while--quite popular in stories where a curse eventually causes a positive change of character. And perhaps Summon Sex Partner, or any special summons really.

Now I have to admit that the items were really well done. Penelope's Portable Playroom made me call out "Genius!" and laugh at the same time. Necklace of Attraction does help set up some of the Carnal spells, but too little too late. Domains and their spells are extremely hard for a Rapturous to access. I will get only one domain of spells IF I won't need any of the 4 other options, and if I do, it will be the Feather domain spells of course, and my character will by then be a divine barbarian with no mechanical skills or spells related to sexuality other than being dressed skimpy and using Touch Attacks with her lips--and even that is not mandatory.


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This is more detailed than I can answer so I ran this all by T.Catt. This is his reply:

Wow, that IS a lot, and its a little hard for me to address every specific thing here as its been almost 10 years since I did the development for this book (the first thing I'd ever attempted to develop). This book has long been laid to rest as far as revisions go, so while some of these ideas are pretty decent, there's not a lot I can do about it at this point. Now, that having been said, I'm actually considering putting together an anniversary edition and revamping the whole thing but, honestly, that's a LOT of work, and I'm not sure I'm willing to crack open this particular can of worms again, particularly in today's social climate. Regardless, I'll try to address some issues:

-Horses. The SoR weren't inspired by the actual Amazons of legend, but rather by fantasy artwork featuring nude and scantily-clad female warriors. Almost none of the art that inspired me to create the class featured mounted warriors, so, honestly, giving them mounts never even occurred to me. I likely should have made Ride a class skill, and if I move forward with the anniversary edition I'll keep that in mind, but otherwise, I don't see them as being particularly mount-based.

-Spells, Skills, and Other Stuff. I don't have a lot to say here except that I did the best I could at the time, and I'm sorry you don't like them. Like everything in the book past the class, the skills and feats and such are optional. If you don't like them, you don't have to use them to play a Rapturous character. That includes the spells. If you don't like the Carnal spells as written, feel free to revamp or replace them with spells of your own design. Honestly, I don't mean to be dismissive -your complaints are valid and your ideas are good- but I'm just not sure what you expect me to do at this point. Perhaps if I do, indeed, decide to work on a revision of the book next year, we can discuss some of your ideas more directly. I could definitely use the help.

-Individual questions:
-Can a Rapturous use a Kiss on herself? The target is a living, corporeal creature, so as long as she fits that description, yes.

-Sacred Prostitute: I don't understand the question.

-Trading spells between the Abbess and the Sacred Prostitute: neither of those archetypes alters the SoR's spells known that I can recall, otherwise, this is a question for your GM.

-What happens if a Rapturous is turned male? Well, that's a good question. The answer is ultimately with your GM, but I would say it depends on the circumstance and whether or not the change is permanent. Strictly speaking, the class' prerequisites includes being female so if your character is permanently re-gendered, then he would lose access to the class, much like a paladin or monk who no longer qualifies for their class. The same thing would happen if an SoR's alignment was changed to any non-good. My reasoning for the female-only restriction is that that's how the goddesses want it, but GMs are the final arbiter over what is and isn't canon in their games, and are free to come up with whatever explanation they like, or even ignore that prerequisite.

-What happens if she has to act among other races or cater to a certain kink? That sounds like a story question. I don't know what you mean here. I don't see how anything in the class would prevent that. As long as she's not violating her good alignment or the edicts of her particular religion or the SoR faction, then she's free to do whatever she wants.

-Could there be spells like...? Sure. You GM has the final say over what spells are allowed in your game, including ones you make up yourself or pull from third-party sources (the BoEF has plenty of interesting sexually-themed spells that could work great for an SoR character -once translated into Pathfinder, of course). Go nuts.

I've gotten a lot of feedback over the last decade regarding the mechanics of this book, and a lot of it I was able to implement in the early days. Some of it was worked into the 5E version (that book is on hold while we figure out how to handle the layout), and, if I do decide to revise the PFRPG class next year, then I will address them there as well. Otherwise, this book is pretty well cemented at this point, and further revisions aren't likely to happen. I do appreciate your thoughts, however, and I do regret that the book didn't live up to your expectations. I hope you'll be able to get some enjoyment out of it, regardless. Thanks for your feedback and support!

-T.Catt


Talon Dunning wrote:

This is more detailed than I can answer so I ran this all by T.Catt. This is his reply:

*Snip*

Thank you for your reply. I am very happy with your product and am planning to have much fun with it. I was under the misguided impression that the PDF was still being updated, but if you are considering an anniversary edition than I would gladly give my input. I must commend you on your first work, and I can see that you put a lot of love in it--pun intended.

If you ask me then the best way to approach any new content is by following the direction you took with Distracting Beauty, the heart of the SoR. They're not sluts, it just so happens that they are most effective when scantily clad. It's not their fault that, say, their level 1 Greater Invisibility doesn't work on objects so they must undress, or that their Body of the Sun burned up their clothes. And of course they know Kinbaku-bi, "the beauty of tight binding" aka artistic bondage, because women are always at risk of being captured and bound. Their Patron Mother made sure they knew how to escape any bounds, or how to quickly tie up an aggressor. The thing is that they could be sluts, and it's a much smaller step for them than for most, but anything critics could say should be able to be explained away. This will make it so that every option available to them can be used in PG-13 games with a little refluffing, and is also able to be used for many other archetypes that people would wish to build. There could be the blushing Japanese magical schoolgirl that asks her love interest to look the other way while she uses her spell, or the stoic warrior who doesn't see herself as a woman but as a living weapon. I guess what I am trying to say is, more "coincidental nudity" or even "accidental nudity".

Many roles require only a slight twist to become available to SoR. An example was my question about being able to act among other races, or answer to certain kinks. One of the most iconic roles for a female spy is to act as a courtesan, or seduce a target. A version of Alter Self that also suppresses any magic could help the SoR blend in, without being overpowered from a balance POV--who wants to give up their class abilities for a day? Said spell could also help instill trust in minorities she is trying to save--"Don't be afraid, little child. I'm really a half-orc, just like you"--or be used by Sacred Prostitutes to conform to a client's request.

About my other questions:

-Sacred Prostitute: can she use her ability on herself? If she is victim of a tentacle monster, could her god intervene and cast Lesser Restoration on her? Or a Cure spell on the vampire who is pleasuring her? Can she do like a Spellswinger, "excuse herself for a moment", and come back with the result of a Divination spell?

-Abbess domain spells: Abbess trade in their Carnal Spells for one domain's powers. Sacred Prostitute sort of gives free spell slots. In a way, for the cost of ECL X 50 gp, they freely cast any healing or divination spell on their target with the only limit being that each target can only be affected once per day. I think this is a very powerful and flavourful effect, but it too replaces Carnal Spells meaning it's not compatible with Abbess. I suppose I should consult my DM about how to mix them.

Anyway, if you are willing, I would gladly help out, as any concerning fan would.


Wondering about the progress of Beauties & Beasts and Book of Divine Love. Any word?


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Ebonbolt wrote:
Wondering about the progress of Beauties & Beasts and Book of Divine Love. Any word?

I'm not in a position to be absolutely certain, but I believe that both have been stuck in development hell, and are now cancelled in all but name.

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