- Geb: The nation is just interesting with it's system (cheers for undead rights!!), structure and rulership, especially if you want to play a necromancer and visit there.
- Absalom: It has loads of interesting places, people and historical pieces in it (Starstone, anyone?), and it has racial diversity which I always like.
(that one white minotaur made me smile).
- Nex: It's as racially varied as Absalom (if not even more so), but filled to the brim with magic and academies as well as silly political troubles.
- Numeria: Barbarians vs. Technomages? Sounds cool, and would probably be a good source for any Eberron-like designs in a house-ruled game.
(Warforged being crafted in Numeria sounds plausible)
- The elves on Golarion have the classic elf feel to them, but also an interesting appearance change or two (those darned eyes).
As a side-question, would a half-devil elf have red hair by default? (It was mentioned in the Inner Sea guide that fiendish blood manifests as red hair)
- Aboleth masterminds ushering in the age of humanity in times long past?
I love that idea, especially since I seem to often be biased against the "inherent awesomeness" of humans in most fantasy settings.
- I also love the fact that they actually made it clear where Minotaurs came from and how, just because I like Minotaurs
(and it makes the incorporation of my homebrew race easier story-wise).
Lastly, despite my own problems with them, I do like the fact that the drow on Golarion truly live up to their name as the terrible and evil elves living underground we all love to hate. (unlike a certain Chaotic Good drow we all know running around in Forgotten Realms...you better know who I am talking about here!!)
i LOVE kaer maga, the single coolest city in rpg history. also the mwangi expanse, jungles rule!.
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i LOVE kaer maga, the single coolest city in rpg history.
I randomly clicked on this thread, and am glad I did so. Kaer Maga loves you, too. :)
If you liked City of Strangers, stay tuned for Shattered Star....
I LOVE Kaer Maga, the single coolest city in RPG history. Also the Mwangi Expanse, jungles rule!
I forgot to mention Kaer Maga. I mean, how can I not love the racial diversity and the "city of weird stuff" feel of that place?
Can somebody tell me where I can find the history of INtellect Devourers?
Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
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Can somebody tell me where I can find the history of INtellect Devourers?
Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
Intellect Devourers get a decent write up in Into the Darklands Short form, hedonsitic others that thrive on new experiences and bodies.
I'm not aware of any examples of 'good orcs' outside of individuals.
As to good Drow... There's no Elistrae in Golarion, nor is there a Drizzt. I beleive, somewehre on the boards, JJ has said to the effect that there won't be any, that such an abomination would strictly be in the domain of a PC.
Can somebody tell me where I can find the history of INtellect Devourers?
Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
Intellect Devourers get a decent write up in Into the Darklands Short form, hedonsitic others that thrive on new experiences and bodies.
I'm not aware of any examples of 'good orcs' outside of individuals.
As to good Drow... There's no Elistrae in Golarion, nor is there a Drizzt. I beleive, somewehre on the boards, JJ has said to the effect that there won't be any, that such an abomination would strictly be in the domain of a PC.
Oh cool I have into the Darkness. I must have missed that. Something to look up when I get home. If I have power. I am one of a 1000 people in NJ who still do not have power from last Saturday's freako snow storm.
I like PC's to be able to play good drow. I do not however like it to be a trend.
Originally Drizzt was supposed to be expanded stories of Daryth from Moonshae. RA SALVATORE had the idea for an Arabian story, after they killed off Daryth, he changed it to Drizzt and the rest is history.
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Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
Non-evil orcs are implied by some lines in the beginning of Orcs of Golarion, detailing some actions involving the protection of their children and elderly that run counter to the otherwise flat, one-dimensional image put forth by most of the rest of that book. There's also explicit mention of orc paladins.
Second Darkness features
NPC Guide also features James Jacobs' good-aligned PC Shensen, who was born a drow.
SD didn't say "no" to good-aligned drow, it just suggested that GMs encourage players to put any good-aligned drow characters off until after SD.
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Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
Non-evil orcs are implied by some lines in the beginning of Orcs of Golarion, detailing some actions involving the protection of their children and elderly that run counter to the otherwise flat, one-dimensional image put forth by most of the rest of that book. There's also explicit mention of orc paladins.
Second Darkness features ** spoiler omitted **
NPC Guide also features James Jacobs' good-aligned PC Shensen, who was born a drow.
SD didn't say "no" to good-aligned drow, it just suggested that GMs encourage players to put any good-aligned drow characters off until after SD.
There's also that totally cool drow ranger with dual scimitars who runs around doing good deeds and working hard to promote a positive outlook of his race oh wait wrong campaign setting.
NPC Guide also features James Jacobs' good-aligned PC Shensen, who was born a drow.
SD didn't say "no" to good-aligned drow, it just suggested that GMs encourage players to put any good-aligned drow characters off until after SD.
Born a drow, but good-aligned? This goes COMPLETELY against what James Jacobs had said in another thread where good vs. evil (where everyone kept saying that evil has such an upper hand that only the Player Characters could stop it from automatically winning) was being discussed. With that said, you just blew my mind.
James Jacobs said that there will never be an official good aligned drow NPC on Golarion (no Drizzt syndrome). For him, it's up to each DM to decide if good drows can exist in their Golarion and if they exist, they must remain an exception.
Shensen is an example of this : she is JJ's character in a campaign (a good drow reincarnated as an half elf).
I know that, but wasn't the drow child/Shensen of undetermined alignment before she was reincarnated? For all we know, she would have grown up evil had she not been killed, brought back and then adopted. (Which still strikes me as a bit of a silly plot, but I'm not going to complain)
I can't remember the whole story, I need to look back in the book.
But I think this is not silly plot, but rather a character background to justify the "I play a drow character even if you don't want a drow at your table" ;op
Ok this might sound strange...
I love the connections to Earth.
I love that (as Set mentioned) so much 3PP stuff fits easily into Golarion. I love that the Numerian ship could have been the Warden the not-Warden an Asgard ship, a Ha'tak The Alternate Daedalus or something else entirely. In it's own way, Golarion is a monument to Open Gaming.
I love the Darklands. As much as I miss Elistraee, I love Golarion Drow, and Paizo's approach to good drow.
I love that Paizo can be 'mature' w/o being 'graphic'.
Oh, and I love the pulp influcences, and Castrovel.
I agree with all those EXCEPT with the one I bolded. I didn't need detailed (or even slightly less detailed) explanations of Ogres and Orcs running around "forcing themselves" on other beings. I actually prefer the Ogres from classic D&D because of that, and I am sort of glad my players felt equally disgusted with the PF Ogres ("that's just tasteless").
Also where are the examples of good orcs and drow? I was pretty sure in SEcond Darkness, the official answer too good drow was no.
Non-evil orcs are implied by some lines in the beginning of Orcs of Golarion, detailing some actions involving the protection of their children and elderly that run counter to the otherwise flat, one-dimensional image put forth by most of the rest of that book. There's also explicit mention of orc paladins.
Second Darkness features ** spoiler omitted **
NPC Guide also features James Jacobs' good-aligned PC Shensen, who was born a drow.
SD didn't say "no" to good-aligned drow, it just suggested that GMs encourage players to put any good-aligned drow characters off until after SD.
Ah right!
I know about the CN guy, I just meant a bonafide GOOD drow. WHich I allow. I played Second Darkness as everyone knowing about drow (well not like flumpy the farmer) but not knowing about the transformation.
I always preferred the ORcs are evil to the Warcraft/Elderscrolls Orcs are people to philosophy.
Drow I have allowed to switch alignments, but I always played the humanoid subtype as evil.
What do I love about the setting?
Pretty much everything everyone has listed....
The only gripes I have would be I like my elves SMALLER than my humans thank you very much....
Perhaps the thing I love most about Golarion?
No frakking Twilight vampires (knew a player once who wanted to play a twilight vampire.... in Pathfinder.)
Edit: Forgot to add these in.
I love the Ulfen, and the Lands of the Linnorm Kings. I especially love that to become a ruler and a Linnorm King, you have to single handedly defeat a Linnorm.
I love and hate the fact that Irrisen exists... The simple fact that it irritates the hell outta me is bloody well fantastic. I've even come up with a few characters from the Lands of the Linnorm Kings who have goals consisting of eradicated the hag's scourge and reclaim his people's ancestral lands (and become a Linnorm King in the process).
(Knew a player once who wanted to play a twilight vampire.... in Pathfinder.)
Please tell me someone went up and punched him in the face.
Anyway, are you sure the Linnorm Kings really beat them single-handedly? They make it sound like the players are kinda pathetic in comparison.
"Oh, you need FOUR guys to beat ONE linnorm? Pffft, some heroes YOU are."
(Knew a player once who wanted to play a twilight vampire.... in Pathfinder.)Please tell me someone went up and punched him in the face.
Anyway, are you sure the Linnorm Kings really beat them single-handedly? They make it sound like the players are kinda pathetic in comparison.
"Oh, you need FOUR guys to beat ONE linnorm? Pffft, some heroes YOU are."
Directly from Pathfingerwiki and Pathfinder.wikia.
"To claim the title of Linnorm King, an applicant must defeat a fey dragon known as a Linnorm in single combat."
If I can find the book this is out of, I'll let ya know. Otherwise I'm going off what I have available to me.
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That leads to the metagame realization that even the weakest Linnorm King is AT LEAST level 14, as that's the Challenge Rating of a Crag Linnorm, the weakest breed. The strongest Linnorm Kings? They killed the CR 20 Two-Headed variety.
...And these are the guys who lost a big chunk of their territory to Baba Yaga.
And who said there were no epic level characters in Pathfinder?! lol.
Yeah, yeah. About the best one can hope for as a PC is probably single handedly taking the Crag Linnorm single handedly. Though honestly I would like to build a few different builds and test exactly how many things can stand up to the CR20 ones. JUST to see if any of the strongest Linnorm Kings are exactly 20th level... Or got extremely lucky.
Then again it doesn't say anything about planning. I suppose you could somehow trap and whittle away a Linnorm's HP maybe....
There's a reason I like the Ulfen :p.
Didn't want to hijack the opposite thread:
I love the variety of cultures and ethnicities. I love that the core setting isn't just Medieval European Fantasy Again.
I love the Shoanti.
I love Osirion and all of its Egyptianess.
I love the Mwangi Explanse and the countless cultures found within. I love Jalmeray and all its over-the-top fantasic nature.
I love Numeria with its barbarians fighting robot scorpions with machine-gun mandibles.
I love that there's an island with Kamen Rider looking assassins that may or may not fight pirates and dinosaurs.
I love Dehrukani even if there's isn't much to know about it yet.
I love the entire Belkzen/Lastwall/Nirmathas/Molthrune stack of nations and all the themes that can be explored there.
I love how Ustalav covers all the Universal and Hammer tropes and still has room for everything Ravenloft was and more.
I love horrible, nightmarish Nidal.
I love the complicated and ethically murky scene in Katapesh.
I love the cultures and possibilities that have sprung out of Geb, Nex, and the Mana Wastes, and how they can easily grow into cultures that have absolutely no near-real-world analogues.
I love Varisia, period.
I love how weird the gnomes are. I love that the elves aren't presented as an infallible race as a whole. I love that good orcs, drow, goblins, etc have been pointed out with both examples and possibilities.
I love that almost every planet in Golarion's solar system is a campaign setting unto itself. I love that psionics have a place on both Golarion and those other worlds.
I love the fleshed out and complex pantheon, and all of the entanglements that tie it together. I love that the various gods and their churches have been developed so that opposing bodies of the faithful can easily be weaved into plots that aren't just good vs. evil/order vs. chaos. I love the nuance present there. I love that the benevolent goddess of dreams was originally a giant alien bug. I love that...
I had no idea that the setting had other planets/was post-apocolyptic...my mind has been blown and my day has been made. Thank you