EntrerisShadow |
<- Is this really the face of a dystopian antihero?
;)
No, it is not. And Ashiel's back story was quite well-done. But in my experience, most tiefling players choose the race for exactly that archetype.
There are always exceptions, of course. Even some very pleasant surprises! But in general, when somebody draws-up a tiefling, inside I roll my eyes a bit and wait to see what variation of Wolverine knock-off this one's gonna be. (In fairness, I suppose this is more of an issue with a character type. Unfortunately, tieflings are just the race I most closely associate with it due to prior experience.)
Arachnofiend |
Mikaze wrote:<- Is this really the face of a dystopian antihero?
;)
No, it is not. And Ashiel's back story was quite well-done. But in my experience, most tiefling players choose the race for exactly that archetype.
There are always exceptions, of course. Even some very pleasant surprises! But in general, when somebody draws-up a tiefling, inside I roll my eyes a bit and wait to see what variation of Wolverine knock-off this one's gonna be. (In fairness, I suppose this is more of an issue with a character type. Unfortunately, tieflings are just the race I most closely associate with it due to prior experience.)
Meh, if the Tiefling didn't exist then those people would just roll half-elves.
All the sad and tragic fluff that Paizo has so graciously granted us with certainly isn't helping, but bad writers will be bad writers with whatever tools they have available.
Chengar Qordath |
EntrerisShadow wrote:Meh, if the Tiefling didn't exist then those people would just roll half-elves.Mikaze wrote:<- Is this really the face of a dystopian antihero?
;)
No, it is not. And Ashiel's back story was quite well-done. But in my experience, most tiefling players choose the race for exactly that archetype.
There are always exceptions, of course. Even some very pleasant surprises! But in general, when somebody draws-up a tiefling, inside I roll my eyes a bit and wait to see what variation of Wolverine knock-off this one's gonna be. (In fairness, I suppose this is more of an issue with a character type. Unfortunately, tieflings are just the race I most closely associate with it due to prior experience.)
Or Half-Orcs. Or just do any of the usual character tropes someone hits for the classic brooding dark loner type ("*Insert Monster Here* killed my family" and such). Really, people who are fond that character type are going to to try and play it no matter what race options they have.
Te'Shen |
I honestly don't understand why anybody plays dark and sad past half-orcs. It's so much more interesting if there was consent in the conception.
I just got this image of an Amazonian Orc screaming "Death by Snu-snu!" and a Shatner-esque human protesting that "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."
Burma "The Tusk" |
I honestly don't understand why anybody plays dark and sad past half-orcs. It's so much more interesting if there was consent in the conception.
Some people want to pretend to be broody people with dark pasts. Personally, I like to pretend to be ruthless, methodical tyrants at the table because it's very different from who I am day-to-day.
Te'Shen |
The one change I've made to the plane touched races (aasimar, tiefling, etc.) has been to change their type to humanoid (rather than native outsider); thus, they are susceptible to the same spells as the rest of the party (one character being immune to a slew of common spells seems kind of unfair).
Really? I thought that the immunity to some common debuffs (like hold person) and some common buffs (like enlarge person) sort of balanced out, and the susceptibility at higher levels to things like banishment were a straight up negative.
I also thought things like the 'lesser' planetouched from 3.5 and the Scion of Humanity kind of gave you the worst of both worlds in what effects you, such as hold person, banishment, favored enemy, bane, etc. I take it you just swapped types?
Cascade |
With the splat book, melee Tieflings are pretty decent. You lose the enlarge, but I took a fighter / alchemist build (extra arms / grenadier), 2 handed reach weapon, shield, armor of the pit, bite attack...he has been destroying the melee combats much to my satisfaction.
I call him my "monster" character. By lvl 7, he'll have 4 arms, wings and the mini I made ...just makes him look the part.