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As Wes kindly pointed out, we, the DMs, should be thinking of ways to include Adrissant in our campaigns in a greater way. I, also, believe that campaign's primary villain should be known to the party before the end, so I'll also be brainstorming the ways to include him. Until I think of something of my own, I'd be glad to hear suggestions. Has anyone had any ideas so far?

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Spoilers, dude.

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Mr. Toadkiller Dog,
Did you perchance name your avatar after a certain dog in the "Chronicles of the Black Company" series?
ELyas


Gorbacz wrote:
Spoilers, dude.

I was under the impression that this is the forum for DMs only.

Quote:
Did you perchance name your avatar after a certain dog in the "Chronicles of the Black Company" series?

Of course I did! It's a pretty unique name, I'm sure you'll agree. :)


Toadkiller Dog wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Spoilers, dude.

I was under the impression that this is the forum for DMs only.

Um... no. Unfortunately, it isn't. Hence the number of threads of players asking for advice on making characters.

It's mostly GM's, but it isn't limited to them.

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Toadkiller Dog wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Spoilers, dude.

I was under the impression that this is the forum for DMs only.

It isn't, there are a lot of players here, or DMs that will play some of the APs. That's why making sure to use spoiler tags is important...


Well, can't edit it now. Could we now discuss the topic? :D


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I'm going to have him turn up right at the beginning as another mourner at the funeral...maybe sprinkling a little powdered onyx around as he goes...might even have him carry the coffin too


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Spacelard wrote:
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Oh boy... That is so wicked! I think I'll use that too! Maybe AA was indeed mourning the death of the professor, who could've been an old friend just as he was to the PCs... But because he knew too much, his death was unavoidable. That could create some strange connection between Adivion and the players!

Aww man, that's a really good idea. Too bad we're on chapter 2... :/


Toadkiller Dog wrote:
Aww man, that's a really good idea. Too bad we're on chapter 2... :/

pssst...:
make him a witness for the DEFENCE

My players know I have the map folio with the lovely maps of Ardis and Karcau

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so my players expect to visit there at some point but the AP as written they don't...However AA, the kindly patron that he is, sends them there to "Find the ingredients of this Lich potion I heard a group of WW cultists are making" but put much more eloquently...serves the players right if they don't use divination...mean nasty GM


Spacelard wrote:
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That's what I'm thinking as well.

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While having him appear at the funeral is an amazing idea, my grups have already played through that event. I've considered placing Adivion Adrissant play some role in the trial, although I might go the opposite way and have him work against the defense.

As an alternative, there's Broken Moon...

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Adivion Adrissant could be one of the guests at the lodge. This seems fitting as this adventure features (hopefully for the heroes) the death of Auren Vrood. Death of the current main bad guy and introduction of the actual villain.


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Actually meeting him makes him subject to a lot of divination magic I'm not sure I'm comfortable with being used considering most of the plot of book 5 seems to be asking around for where they W.W is hanging out. Not to mention the trash talking Sendings he could potentially be getting every time the PCs have a spare spell slot available ;)


Josh Hodges wrote:
Actually meeting him makes him subject to a lot of divination magic I'm not sure I'm comfortable with being used considering most of the plot of book 5 seems to be asking around for where they W.W is hanging out. Not to mention the trash talking Sendings he could potentially be getting every time the PCs have a spare spell slot available ;)

You don't become an BBEG without....

Mind Blank:The subject is protected from all devices and spells that gather information about the target through divination magic (such as detect evil, locate creature, scry, and see invisible). This spell also grants a +8 resistance bonus on saving throws against all mind-affecting spells and effects. Mind blank even foils limited wish, miracle, and wish spells when they are used in such a way as to gain information about the target. In the case of scrying that scans an area the creature is in, such as arcane eye, the spell works but the creature simply isn't detected. Scrying attempts that are targeted specifically at the subject do not work at all.


I forgot that that was altered to no longer make you immune to mind affecting effects. I guess that helps a lot of base classes out, but makes relations with monsters much, much more difficult, which I'm just fine with.

But yes, as to your point you're completely right.


my players will hate me:
of course the wandering barber-surgeon that is AA has been wandering Ustalav for many years..."why that is how I first met the dear departed professor..we would while away the hours discussing the various humours of the body...actually you look a little phlegmatic, perhaps if I balance your humours a bit" * approaches with jar of leeches*
In Ravengro he is watching the PCs and gauging them. Perhaps he gives non-magical healing to the PCs "yes I know its unconventional...there are people here who would call me...*looks around* a necromancer!" a good time to collect some PCs blood, hair, nail clips...maybe even a toe :)

In Lepidstat he speaks for the PCs as a character witness saying how good they are how he considers them friends. He even shows up just in time to help with the night riot. After the verdict he is the PCs patron and sends them on an task to Carrion Hill (yes I know but hey, as GM I'm setting the pace) to try and find and retrieve a rare tome "in order to carry on the good work of the professor".

I'll put up more when they pop in my head.

And if the PCs guess right and attack?
Let them have their fun...and leave behind a pile of snow.

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Spacelard wrote:
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Oh, that's a really interesting idea. What if he had been friends with the Professor?! Like in a Xavier/Magneto kind of way. I like that.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Spacelard wrote:
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Oh, that's a really interesting idea. What if he had been friends with the Professor?! Like in a Xavier/Magneto kind of way. I like that.

Yup, started out as best friends but as their individual goals shifted they drifted apart...Hmmm Kendra now has a god-father...mwhahaha!


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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Spacelard wrote:
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Oh, that's a really interesting idea. What if he had been friends with the Professor?! Like in a Xavier/Magneto kind of way. I like that.

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That's exactly what I thought. I think I'll portray Adivion in Ravengro as an old friend of the professor, (truthfully) griefing his inevitable death. During the funeral, the PCs will have the opportunity of metting Adivion, but I don't think I would go as far as turning him into a patron. My reasoning is: he's busy as hell finishing everything for the completition of the Carrion Crown, and so far he has no idea the PCs will turn into his most hatred enemies. However, I'm sure Adivion would be amused, if not somewhat annoyed, when the PCs start thwarting his plans in Feldgrau and beyond.

Ah yes...AA is a busy boy...but

Pile of snow:
Simulacrum spell is your best friend...

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My current plan is to have Adivion send a letter to the funeral expressing sorrow for Kendra's loss. My current draft is below:

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Ms Lorrimer,

Allow me to present to you my warmest regards and deepest regrets upon the death of your father. Petros was a man of great insight, with a keen and enquiring mind. It was perhaps inevitable that it would be his curiosity that brought him low, for his questing ways led him to dark places, and what he lacked in prudence he more than compensated for in courage. Regardless, I shall remember him fondly as one who was almost a peer; as a man of intelligence, tempered but lightly by good sense.

My thoughts are with you, my dear. I trust the path you chose to tread in life shall be a safer one than that of your late father – indeed, I would insist upon it.

With the greatest of respect,

Adivion Adrissant

My current idea is 'take one part genuine consolation, add one part superiority and a dash of gloating, season to taste.' Adivion is a smug and self-satisfied sort underneath it all, after all.

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Ninjaiguana wrote:

My current plan is to have Adivion send a letter to the funeral expressing sorrow for Kendra's loss. My current draft is below:

** spoiler omitted **

Spot on! You nailed his personality!


I'm yet to read this chapter again thoroughly, but what do you think about replacing Doctor Montagnie Crowl with Adrissant? Would that have any disrupting implications? Since Lorrimore was a teacher before, they could have been colleagues... And explain stealing the Effigy as a way to throw people off of his trail.


Toadkiller Dog wrote:
I'm yet to read this chapter again thoroughly, but what do you think about replacing Doctor Montagnie Crowl with Adrissant? Would that have any disrupting implications? Since Lorrimore was a teacher before, they could have been colleagues... And explain stealing the Effigy as a way to throw people off of his trail.

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True, but he would hardly have actually needed the Beast to steal the Effigy then. It would have been far simpler to make a copy and switch it out, or arrange for it to be "exhibited" elsewhere. Even messing the place up and claiming it was the Beast would work.

So you'd need to explain why he has clear and easy access to the Effigy yet needs a completely outside source to steal it in a rather complicated way.

Qadira

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The "showing up at the funeral" part is indeed awesome. However, I think for my campagin it will work best if AA and the proffesor had a "Proffesor X VS. Magnito" relationship - known enemies, though they never actually violantly attacked each other. instead of debating the place of mutants in society they debated the subject of death and undeath - each of them had very diffrent views. AA was actually saddened by the news of Lorrimor's death, as the aging proffesor was one of the only living beings AA felt could (nearly) present a fine match for his intellect and capabilities. Plus, any avidance of how easy it is to end the life of great men brings sorrow to AA. If the PCs could be convinced that Lorrimor and Adivion are intellectual opponents and nothing more, I think I will be able to build some nice drama around it.


additional points:
AA is actually quite pissed with Vrood for killing his old friend and sparing partner Lorrimor. Yes it may have been necessary but if Vrood was careful then it could have been avoided. AA will hang around Ravengro for a while and see what the party are up to. He may be hanging around to find a Flesh Golem manual which was carelessly lost by Vrood. Once satisfied that none of the books in the Professor's possession are directly giving hints to what AA is doing then he leaves...perhaps sending his Simulacrum to Lepistat to keep an eye on the group...maybe to indirectly push them in Vrood's direction/stall them until Vrood's usefulness has ended so the PCs can do the dirty work and kill Vrood for him. Either way the Simulacrum will be all friendly even helpful to the PCs until their usefulness ends.


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I don't think my players will actually meet Adrissant until the final encounter. Everything they hear about him will be in notes from him to others, Whispering Way minions mentioning him in writings, and other NPCs describing him.

I think I am going to first introduce him in book 1 or 2 through some note left by Vrood for one of his lackeys. Vrood will be threatening to let Adrissant deal with them should they fail or some other type threat involving Adrissant. While reading of the adventures, I just envisioned Vrood as the type of guy who only knows how to motivate people through threats and shouting.

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Remember, Adivion Adrissant does get name-dropped in the middle of Book 3. (He provided the invitation for Auren Vrood to enter the Lodge.)

This reveals two things: that he is of highly respected noble pedigree, and that he is affliated with the Whispering Way. (However, as far as the PCs can tell, it could be that the WW is merely using him, and that AA is a dupe and is innocent.)

So consider what you want the PCs to think about AA before you get to that point. In my campaign, I have him as an relatively friendly background character (actually, he's having Kendra move in with him at his estate in Caliphas). Finding the invitation will be a "reveal" of sorts, hopefully getting the players to go "oh s*#$, we know that guy!"


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What NPCs from the future books could also be brought to the funeral as friends of the professor? I like the idea of having this influx of strangers all come into town for the funeral, and then all vanish just as quickly.

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This way it isn't quite so obvious when Adivion Adrissant gets mentioned later on in the AP.

I'm thinking:

  • Acting Seargeant Dun - The son of a mere basketweaver whose husband had died many years earlier, Dun didn't have very many prospects in life. However his departed father, Edward, was a good friend of the Professors. He died at the hands of some restless natives during an expedition led by the professor into some ruins in the Mwangi Expanse.

    Professor Lorrimor returned to Lepidstadt and gave Edward's share of the bounty to his widow. When the time came for Edward's son to gain a job, Professor Lorrimor wrote a letter of recommendation which got Dun a job as a courthouse guard.

  • Zvraskav Hora - He had sold many goods to the good Professor over the years, and also kept an ear out for news that might interest the professor. He comes to pay his respects of not only a good customer, but someone who had grown into something of a friend.
  • Duristan Silbio Ariesir - An aristocrat inspired by the professor's many tales and dealings with creatures of the night. He has come to the funeral and has vowed to continue on in the good professor's step. His first goal is to go into the Shudderwood which the viscious creature s of the night call home.
  • Kvalca Sain - Professor Lorrimor first met Kvalca when the professor was studying various diseases that could be spread throughout the lycanthropic community in order to destroy this plague on humanity once and for all. Kvalca proved an invaluable aid for his understanding and knowledge of lycanthropes.

    They became good friends, which was Kvalca's goal. Kvalca revealed himself to be a natural werewolf and sympathised with Professor Lorrimor's fears of the average lycanthrope. Kvalca pointed to werebears as a benevolent example of his race, and told the professor of his ultimate goal to one day unite the werewolf tribes.

    Through these discussions Kvalca managed to convince the professor to cease his studies for now and to continue it one day in the far future if Kvalca failed in his goals.

  • Horace Croon - An eccentric inventor that the professor met and even acted as patron for some of his designs. He comes with an overly complicated invention that takes a rather simple affair (setting fire to some kindling) and turns it into a great ordeal. He has a gigantic barrel with pumps to pump out oil and then knobs and wheels to have this oil catch alight as it sprays into the fireplace. Horace calls this a "lighter" but still has a few kinks to work out (he explains as he quickly stamps out a rug that also happened to catch fire).
  • Abraun Chalest - Professor Lorrimor certainly had his fair share of expeditions into the lost tombs of Ancient Orision. Always keen to aid in identifying and interpreting these ancient relics was Abraun Chalest. The PCs have an opportunity to befriend Abraun with a diplomacy DC 17. If they succeed he offers to show them a good time in Caliphas should they ever be out that way.

Spoiler:
By inundating the PCs with 6 NPC names and faces (including Adivion) there is less chance of them remembering Adivion specifically. Even if they do remember the name, they've also meet all these other NPCs as well and so far those NPCs have been nothing but helpful so it will still cast some doubt as to whether Adivion is truly evil.

This also has the upside of having Adivion meet Kvalca Sain during the funeral which allows him to send his minions into Shudderwood with the specific intention of stealing this particular werewolf lord's heart.

I want to thank Spacelard and F. Wesley Schneider for their inspiration. I'm even more excited about this AP now and I'm finding a much better way to link the different APs together with this bit of foreshadowing.


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I really like that! Sorry, but I'll have to copy that shamelessly!!! =D


kvalca sain is a woman, other then that sounds awesome. good job.


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I am past the part where they do the funeral, so what I am thinking is to have them find the body of Father Grimburrow which with a heal check they can find out that the body has been here sense about a week after the professor died. When they get back to town they will find out that the person they thought was Grimburrow is now gone. I am planing on having the priest actually be AA with an illusion on himself to look like the father. Also I am thinking about having AA actually show up after there adventure as a late arrival and is here to pay his respects to the prof. and he will have a long talk with the PCs about what they have been doing in town so that he can be a character witness in the next AP.


I think I will have AA know the professor is trying to interfere with his plans, but the professor never knows that AA is the one behind the plans.
AA will arouse less suspicion as "just another mourner." I don't want him sticking out in book one. He will be a "well-meaning" jerk though, the type of person that talks down to people without realizing he is doing so or maybe he does realize, but only to see who can pick up on hidden insults.

Vrood had been given strict orders to not kill the professor, but thought AA was being irresponsible by allowing him to live so he used the opportunity to do it anyway, figuring he would be forgiven.

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Having just read Wes intro for Shadows of Gallowspire it hit me that my group has no idea who the main villain is. I'm currently halfway through Wake of the Watcher. Any suggestions how to foreshadow him a bit before the final ap?

My group actually thought Vrood was the main guy and when they finally encountered him they were scratching their heads. They felt Vrood was being built as the main BBEG.

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lastgrasp wrote:

Having just read Wes intro for Shadows of Gallowspire it hit me that my group has no idea who the main villain is. I'm currently halfway through Wake of the Watcher. Any suggestions how to foreshadow him a bit before the final ap?

My group actually thought Vrood was the main guy and when they finally encountered him they were scratching their heads. They felt Vrood was being built as the main BBEG.

Check previous posts in this thread for a bunch of super-cool ideas on working Adivion into the plotline in earlier chapters. The information is concealed behind the spoiler bars. Folks have a lot of good ideas here, and that information is right above you!


lastgrasp wrote:

Having just read Wes intro for Shadows of Gallowspire it hit me that my group has no idea who the main villain is. I'm currently halfway through Wake of the Watcher. Any suggestions how to foreshadow him a bit before the final ap?

My group actually thought Vrood was the main guy and when they finally encountered him they were scratching their heads. They felt Vrood was being built as the main BBEG.

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Worse comes to worse you could have Adivion attending the Order meeting in Caliphas where the characters meet Galdana, getting close to the Count in order to prepare for his abduction

Adivion could be a member from a long time ago and now uses magic to hide anything that would get him kicked out. It gives him the ability to keep an eye on what the Order is doing, while maintaining contacts that could be useful in certain situations. This connection to the Order could also have given him the description of the PCs and he decides to take the moment to meet the people who have caused him such trouble.

Introducing Adivion this late in the game has a lot of dangers. He can't be too obvious or arrogant (though Modd can be used to make it clear that such people aren't unique in the Order), but he should still come across as unnerving and maybe a little too interested in their doings. Of course, it isn't difficult for him to come across as a bit of a bored fop who is overly taken with the tales of their adventure.

There problem of Adivion's absolute lack of a Bluff score, which makes interacting with him dangerous for PCs with good Sense Motive. You'll have to decide how to deal with that, as well as have an idea of what to do if the characters happen to use Detect Magic and realize that he's covered in powerful spells that prevent scrying and the like.

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Tobias, that works perfectly! Nice idea and I think I'm going to use it.


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Pedro Sampaio wrote:
I really like that! Sorry, but I'll have to copy that shamelessly!!! =D

No need to be sorry, I'm glad you liked it :)

captain yesterday wrote:
kvalca sain is a woman, other then that sounds awesome. good job.

D'oh. So that means

Spoiler:
the Prince of Wolves is actually a woman???

I honestly didn't see that coming.

I've rewritten Professor Lorrimor's journal as I felt the clues it provided were far too direct and obvious. In doing so, I've managed to work mention of Professor Crowl into it (I won't be using the plot hook of Petros's Tomes in order to get the PCs to go to Lepidstadt). Here is my version of the journal:

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Below are the more recent entries from Professor Lorrimor’s journal.

6th of Kuthona, 4710
I woke up today to find two dead whippoorwhirls on my windowsill. The witch’s foretelling has finally come true. It’s every bit as dreadful as she promised.

I know growing up in Ravengro hasn’t been the easiest on Kendra. Although she didn’t remember very much about living in Lepidstadt, as a child she would often tell me of dreams of a big city. I tried to tell her all children have these types of dreams, but I don’t know if she ever truly accepted it.

I’m going to sell my home so that at least Kendra can finally return to the big city.

10th of Kuthona, 4710
I leave today for Lepidstadt. I’ve had Professor Crowl put out feelers for any interested buyers. I haven’t told my other colleagues about my plans. They’ll find out soon enough.

25th of Kuthona, 4710
I have secured a buyer for my property. One Dr. Vasyl Belenko. I’ve signed the papers over for a sum that should allow Kendra to settle into Lepidstadt quite comfortably. I was able to convince the fellow that I have some unfinished business in Ravengro that would need to be dealt with and requested he hold off until the 30th of Gozran before moving in. He was quite amenable to the idea once I explained he could hold off on paying me for the property until the 1st of Calistril, at which point it would be held by the Bank of Abadar until the agreed date.

This should provide enough time for Kendra to move at her leisure.

26th of Kuthona, 4710
I had dinner with <INSERT PC NAME HERE> last night. I had been planning on slipping out of Lepidstadt before anyone from the university knew I was here. However I’m glad I relented and spoke with him. He’s doing quite well for himself and seems to have settled into things well enough.

29th of Kuthona, 4710
I cannot believe the difficulties I had getting into Tamrivena today. The guards at the gate were being completely unreasonable, demanding to know what my business was and why I was travelling on the road.
I had to pull quite a few strings simply to get through the damn gate! I was half tempted to simply spend the night in Nathrus, but it didn’t come to that. This time. I don’t know what’s happened to this town, but I simply don’t have time to be dealing with petty thugs such as these. I’ve got far too many things to do once I get home.

3rd of Abadius, 4711
It was good to see Kendra when I got home. I forgot to get her a gift like I usually do. She seemed to shrug it off saying she was probably too old to get a treat whenever her father went away.

The disappointment in her voice still stung though.

5th of Abadius, 4711
I’m concerned that some unusual people have been snooping around Ravengro while I was away. Perhaps I’m just getting paranoid, but some of the comments people have made are somewhat unsettling.

14th of Abadius, 4711
I’m not growing paranoid, there have been strangers lurking around in the woods. I have my suspicions as to who it might be, but I have no idea what they could possibly want.

25th of Abadius, 4711
Of course. I’m such a fool for not seeing it before. There is only one possible reason they could have for being here. But why now? Why after all this time? This requires further investigation, but I don’t have too much time left.

29th of Abadius, 4711
It seems the rumours aren’t all just old ghost stories after all. That helps explain their interest in the place. But it doesn’t explain why now. Regardless I believe quite strongly that they’re after something <this will be crossed out in the printed out version> someone that was there. Father Dimitru should be able to help me with that.

1st of Calistril, 4711
I see just how ill prepared I was when I first headed out there. I am lucky to have returned at all. But of course I know luck didn’t have anything to do with it. I’ll get some benefit from that damn curse before I go.

I remember reading clues and hints about a crypt in the Restlands. I’ll need to go searching through my notes. I should never have let my supplies get so low to begin with. That was a foolish error on my part.

3rd of Calistril, 4711
Perhaps my memory is failing me. I’ve scoured through all of my books and haven’t been able to find the notes I need. I was positive it was in Ravengro. I couldn’t be getting this town confused with another one. Could I?

Success! My memory wasn’t failing me after all. The false crypt is in the intersection between Eversleep and the Black Path. I wonder if Father Grimburrow knew about it? I guess I’ll find out soon enough.

5th of Calistril, 4711
I redrew my will yesterday and had Hearthmount witness it and store it away. He was quite perturbed by the fact I’ve sold my house to an outsider. I guess the rumour mill will be working overtime by the end of today.

I made sure I sat down and had dinner with Kendra last night. Our first meal together since I saw those two whippoorwhirls. I was almost going to tell her that I’ve sold the place, but got distracted and then forgot about it.

I helped myself to a few of the items in the crypt. Anymore wouldn’t do ME any good. I’ve gotten no sleep tonight as I’ve thought long and hard about who to contact in order to deal with them. I doubt I’ll take them out by myself.

I finished my last letter this morning. I didn’t want to say too much, because the gods only know whose hands the parcels might actually fall into. In fact, I’ve done my best to be downright cryptic. Hopefully their interest will be piqued and they’ll investigate matters in more depth.

It's cryptic (although it should become quite obvious early on what some of the entries are referring to), and is more the rambling thoughts of an old man (my Professor Lorrimor is 64 years old). The entries are really only intended for Petros himself, and so they make perfect sense for him in capturing his thoughts on a particular day.

Using this as a hint, clever PCs should be able to work out most of the references as the adventure path continues, giving them a larger sense of an overall arc to the adventure path.

I did like that I could give the PCs yet another name of an NPC that they'll meet in a later book. By the time the campaign actually starts, I might have every major and minor NPC referenced in the very first adventure ;)


John Lynch 106 wrote:
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D'oh. So that means

Spoiler:
Actually, the Prince of Wolves is someone else, as described in the novel Prince of Wolves. Sain was the head of all the werewolf tribes, but that isn't the same thing as the Prince.

I had him appear at the funeral. The party did not talk to him, but they asked Kendra about him. He was described as arrogant and snobbish, but brilliant. He and the professor had a falling out a few years ago, and have not spoken since. She does not know the details.


IMC we are already in the midst of the Harrowstone part.

My plan is to introduce Adivion the next time the PCs return to the Lorrimor mansion. He is visitiing as an old friend of Lorrimor (using the "Xavier/Magneto" concept mentioned here) and the players find him flirting with Kendra.

I want to play him like Barney Stinson - very convinced of his "awesomeness", without much morals, but creative and quite likeable. This should be enough to make him memorable. When they ask him about his connection to Petros he will most likely tell them some outrageous story.


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All of the suggestions are brilliant. Someone in another post had mentioned Kendra being invited to Caliphas by an old family friend, AA.

My plan:
Thought that was a great idea, and I intend to use the letter of sorrow above with something added like:
"If you ever find yourself in need of a change of scenery, I would be most happy to welcome you to Caliphas."
In my game, the PC who was developing a relationship with Kendra was just killed when Gurtis expolded. Now this town and the manor house hold nothing but bad memories, so she intends to take AA up on his offer. She told the PC's this already, but having them find the letter will help keep AA's name in their minds (or at least written in their campaign journal.) I think adding Kendra into the Path much later will be fun. Who knows what will have happened to her by then?


Naming:
So, I was going to have good old AA just show up and brazenly introduce himself, but now that there's a forum topic about it I'm remiss to be that bold 'lest the PCs get a bad feeling too soon. What's a good alter ego that AA could use?

I'd discuss my plans in detail but I don't want to yet. I have some really killer ideas that I'll be able to talk about in about a month once my group has played through Ashes at Dawn and The Tomb of the Iron Medusa. I just don't trust all of my PCs to not go reading all of my spoiler notes anymore.


I put AA in Lpeidstadt. He met the PCs one day after the trial, offered his help, because he recieved a letter from Kendra telling him that they're going to Lepidstadt. I let them use him to make one gather information check (thus throwing them off the trail that he has a more serious role) for them, to save time and they had a dinner in his house (I told them that he's a noble who has houses all over Lepidstadt) and I think I managed to pull off the whole 'arrogant because he can' look and planted the seeds of his involvement with Lorrimore. I also used his full name, which means I'll have to edit it out of handouts that mention his name/initials.

Still no progress on the alterego. The Dead Count is the best I've come up so far, but I don't think I'll settle on that.


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I updated my blog post with what I changed about Adivion Adrissant and the plot of Shadows of Gallowspire.

It seemed better to put it there than here since it's all kind of a blog post anyways.


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Ice Titan wrote:

I updated my blog post with what I changed about Adivion Adrissant and the plot of Shadows of Gallowspire.

It seemed better to put it there than here since it's all kind of a blog post anyways.

Nice work. You really put some thought into it. :)

So far in my campaign: They met him briefly when he stopped by (he rode in on a black carriage) to offer his sympathies to Kendra and visit Lorrimor's grave. I ended up making his ties to Ravengro stronger than I originally intended when the players wanted to know who owned the crypts at the top of the Restlands. Put on the spot I listed off one as a small Pharasman chapel, four as belonging to the families of the Council, and one that was very old and whose family name had worn away. They checked into it and found it belonged to the Adrissant family.

I think I am going to make his family the feudal owners of the village that became Ravengro before Canterwall became a Palatinate.


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Ice Titan wrote:

I updated my blog post with what I changed about Adivion Adrissant and the plot of Shadows of Gallowspire.

It seemed better to put it there than here since it's all kind of a blog post anyways.

That's beautiful. I'm still running Chapter One, and looking for ways to extend Kendra's role, so I'm going to steal the Tar-Baphon connection. In my game, Kendra is a blind Oracle -- she lost her sight when she snuck a peek at one of Lorrimor's forbidden tomes. Perhaps that event was the clue that tells AA she's one of TB's bloodline.

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Early on when my party arrived in Lepidstadt, I had one of the PCs literally bump into AA in the Inn they were getting rooms at while he in turn was leaving, and said PC recognizes him as someone she'd met at a party in the capital a decade before. They traded pleasantries before he took off, and they've largely forgotten him now, but he did briefly mention his plans for going off to a certain Hunting Lodge with friends, and that perhaps he'd see her again there.

My plan is to have a Simulacrum of AA traveling with Count Galdana to keep an eye on him, possibly as his secretary, and insert them into the mystery at the lodge in BM (possibly combining the Count with one of the other characters there - Cilas Graydon or Corvin Tergsvor). If the Simulacrum of AA is suspected/found out, either in BM or AaD, he should still be manageable (tough in BM, not so much in AaD). This earlier entrance to the storyline should solidly plant not just AA, but the Count as personae the party knows.

Grand Lodge

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Professor Lorrimor travelled a lot, hired adventurers, disappeared from time to time...

What if AA was actually psuedonym for the professor who faked his own death?

That would bake the players noodle!

Incidentally I adjusted the earlier letter slightly (kudos for putting it together)... love it

Spoiler:

Ms Lorrimer,

Allow me to present to you my warmest regards and deepest regrets upon the death of your father. Petros was a man of great insight, with a keen and enquiring mind. It was perhaps inevitable that it would be his curiosity that brought him low, for his questing ways led him to dark places, and what he lacked in prudence he more than compensated for in courage. Regardless, I shall remember him fondly as one who was almost a peer; as a man of intelligence, tempered but lightly by good sense.

My thoughts are with you, my dear. I trust the path you choose to tread in life shall be a safer one than that of your late father – indeed, I would insist upon it.

I may, from time to time, check on your well being and general welfare. Please accept this as payment of a debt that a tragic circumstance has imposed upon me.

With the greatest of respect,

Adivion Adrissant

The writer comes across just a little too smarmy - not sure if smart players would fail to miss the gloating tone but I will need to think on it. The new paragraph I added gives an openning for him, even remotely, to be a re-occuring presence if Kendra stays in touch with the group.

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