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Qinggong Monk


Rules Questions

Osirion

1 person marked this as FAQ candidate.

Ok this keeps popping up in the ninja thread so i moved it here. It seems a large number of people are useing this archetype incorrectly. Or at lest What i think of as incorrectly. They are claiming it can be cherry picked. But Archetypes do not work that way.

Now the archetype states

PRD wrote wrote:
Ki Power: A qinggong monk can select a ki power (see below) for which she qualifies in place of the following monk class abilities: slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th). This replaces the monk class ability the qinggong monk gives up for this ki power.

Now folks are claiming you do not have to take a replacement , which is false. And they say this based upon the word "can" which many archetypes use. And we know you must take all the replacements with an archetype and may not choose to skip one.

The Break is what is getting people. Read it this way "A qinggong monk can select a ki power for which she qualifies" They replace slow fall (4th), high jump (5th), wholeness of body (7th), diamond body (11th), abundant step (12th), diamond soul (13th), quivering palm (15th), timeless body (17th), tongue of the sun and moon (17th), empty body (19th), and perfect self (20th)

Now some claim for example you can skip high jump but lets look at the rest of the option. The Archetype says you can indeed have high jump, but most be at lest 6th level to take the ki power.

What this says is you can not have it at 5th. The archetype does not allow it, you must be at lest 6th level to take high jump if you are this type of monk. What this archetype does is replace all the options at 4th,5th.7th.11th,12th,13th,15th.17th,17th,19th and 20th with options, lots and lots of options.

You can still take some of those Powers but only at the level the archetype allows.

Now if you can show me where paizo has stated this archetype does not in fact use the normal archetype rules I would like to see it.

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