Is This Item Legal?


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So I figure I'd make a thread dedicated to obscure items you find in books that you're unsure about their legality.

I was wondering if the Sepia Ellipsoid Ioun Stone from p. 57 of Seeker of Secrets is legal? It has an associated cost of 68000 gp, but it does have a curse (that can be removed by a remove curse - which would have to be cast every new modules I play with my retired cleric).

If it is legal, my 2nd question is when you put it into a wayfinder, do you get all 3 resonance powers (since it acts like all 3 stones)?

/If I successfully play through a module and don't have to spend money to raise/res/true res then I will have enough money for one.
//I also currently have 66 TPA (or Fame), so the gp limit isn't an issue (why do I have to be 1 away?).
///Yeah, I'm looking to get mad character bling.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Joseph Caubo wrote:
So I figure I'd make a thread dedicated to obscure items you find in books that you're unsure about their legality.

Since the Additional Resources page makes it pretty clear, I'm not sure why you feel the need to do that.

Additional Resources entry for Seekers of Secrets wrote:
Everything in this book is legal for play (and considered part of the core assumption) with one note: ioun stones use method 1 for resonance and never use method 2. Additionally, only normal ioun stones have resonance—inferior ioun stones never do.

The Exchange 4/5

Mark Garringer wrote:

Since the Additional Resources page makes it pretty clear, I'm not sure why you feel the need to do that.

Additional Resources entry for Seekers of Secrets wrote:
Everything in this book is legal for play (and considered part of the core assumption) with one note: ioun stones use method 1 for resonance and never use method 2. Additionally, only normal ioun stones have resonance—inferior ioun stones never do.

I guess the reason was that Hero Lab flagged it as being a "cursed item." I then went to go look at it again in the section of Seeker and saw that some of the other items in that section were listed as being cursed (although 2 out of 3 of those items have associated costs, unlike most cursed items). Also, considering that the book itself states that this particular ioun stone is kept stored in the vaults below the Grand Lodge and that there are only 3 of them, I wanted double-check if it is actually okay. I could see these actually being untouchable given these conditions.


The current version of the Guide does not contain it, but I was sure it was in an older version, or perhaps this was just one of those official "suggestions" posted to the forums, but I could have sworn that it had been stated before that you could never buy cursed items.

edit: Alright, here is the thread I was remembering where Josh ruled on cursed items.

The Exchange 4/5

Enevhar Aldarion wrote:

The current version of the Guide does not contain it, but I was sure it was in an older version, or perhaps this was just one of those official "suggestions" posted to the forums, but I could have sworn that it had been stated before that you could never buy cursed items.

edit: Alright, here is the thread I was remembering where Josh ruled on cursed items.

Yeah, this is why I wonder. The curse is that once you put it in a wayfinder, the stone pops out and starts floating around your head 1d4+1 hours later. This curse, though, can be lifted by casting a remove curse or similar spell on it. I don't see this as much of a curse at all.

Next (which I don't consider to be a curse), it drains other ioun stones you have on your person at the rate of 1 every 24 hours. So if you have this ioun stone, you better only it and no other one.

And, unlike other cursed items from the Core, this one actually has an associated cost that you can pay. This leaves me wondering...

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