That would give us a Consumption of ~16 (crew) + 7 (wagons) = 23. We can have a maximum of 3 Scouts (-9) and 5 cooks (-10)
Or 3 Scouts (-9), 4 Spellcasters (-12), and a cook (-2). Or do take Efficient Consumption a couple of times and put some of those jobs elsewhere. Or what have you.
Now, I don't quite see why a Consumption of 4 should be problematic.
Getting it at or below 0 is not required. Just highly, highly recommended by the GM.
OK, we need two PCs with points in Handle Animals. Any takers? We might have to retcon some of our 2nd level builds to accommodate that.
I don't have time to check everyone right at this very moment, but I know at least Kalimac and Liothonae can handle animals.
Or 3 Scouts (-9), 4 Spellcasters (-12), and a cook (-2). Or do take Efficient Consumption a couple of times and put some of those jobs elsewhere. Or what have you.
Ah, so Spellcasters don't count against the limits of the other roles they emulate? Then that arrangement would make the most sense.
(Even in this case, we might want to pay for some Consumption to free up those Spellcasters for other roles. If we ever get stuck and we have to take much longer than anticipated to reach the next supply point, it's good to know we have the capacity to reduce Consumption to 0 whenever we want to.)
I don't have time to check everyone, but I know at least Kalimac and Liothonae can handle animals.
That's already enough, then. Nice.
Kalimac will lay claim to the Minkai Chest.
Quick question; why is the money in the loot list not "claimable"? Is this just about who carries around what at this point? Hrunndalf is happy to carry around a few extra items for the party (except maybe for those accursed skyrockets), but has no interest in using any of them.
How are we going to handle selling loot and distributing the proceeds?
They are not "claimable" because all characters will automatically receive an equal share of money.
"Claims" can only be made for people who wish to have items for use or any other purpose besides selling for cash. Anything not claimed will automatically be sold and the money split equally.
Edited to add: The system was proposed in this post, and adopted by party vote.
(Myriana can also be a Driver. Good. It means no one's stuck with the job if one of the Animal Handlers really doesn't want it. If more than one don't want it, alternation is possible, e.g. two people switching off between being Drivers and, say, Scouts or what have you.)
Kalimac would like to spend at least part of his time acting as a scout. He's willing to alternate if Myri or Lio doesn't want to spend full time driving.
Sorry to derail a productive thread, but this aggression cannot stand.
On my channels, I've rolled one 6, one 2. And the rest were 1s. Three 1s. THREE.
useless rickin' frickin' stupid broke dicehand...
Anyway, back to the useful posting.
I suspect that Liothonae/Kalimac/Myriana as a trio on a rotating Driver/Scout duty rotation is how this one is going to end up.
On topic: I mostly agree with Hrunndalf on the distribution of points, except that you can add defense with armored carts and prisoner carts. I would probably want Mobility 2, Defense 3. But I can see the argument either way.
Off topic: The d6s HATE you. Out of character I feel much sympathy. I have a new player who is an alchemist who can't roll above a 2 on a 8 for his cure potions.
FIRST LOOT DIVISION IS CLOSED
No two people claimed the same thing, so if you claimed something, it is yours. Including, somehow, Hrithik ending up with the panties.
If you have claimed any items, start a tally of how much you have received total, so that overall loot division across many levels remains fair. E.g., below equipment, write:
"Claimed Loot Value: 579 gp"
Or what have you.
At this point, all unclaimed loot items have been SOLD! To, er, someone, at some point. Yeah.
All seven characters currently in the party receive a total of: 200 gp and 7 sp.
This does not apply to characters who have not yet joined the party; I will deal with such people separately.
Re: the Caravan
A.
I think I agree more with Melinda than Hrunndalf on this one. Defense 3, absolutely. Some nice Feats that way. But Mobility of 2.
I like the Circle the Wagons feat, if we're good at differentiating between when we need to fight and when we need to run. :)
And I think it's not a question of if we'll need the Scavengers feat, but when.
Oh! And given the strong recommendation, I think we should get down to a zero Consumption as quickly as possible. It's also one less thing to keep track of.
Since several people have now asked me, yes, there will be downtime and time to interact with NPCs and other player characters when you go back to Sandpoint. Time in the city, followed by a long caravan journey together.
What you have been experiencing so far, after the Meet & Greet, has been this game's equivalent of a Dungeon Crawl.
Can the masterwork chainmail be repaired? If so, Alaric would love to have that, although I know I've already got far and away got the most loot monetarily with that cloak (500 GP, I believe)
Enough mending can do it since it is non-magical. With magical gear we are going to have to have make whole (and high enough caster level).
With the spells this group has, you can pretty much assume that anything nonmagical automatically gets repaired unless I specify it can't be.
I'll put up a new loot post soon.
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All seven characters currently in the party receive a total of: 200 gp and 7 sp. ..
This is separate from the claimed loot we are keeping track of?
This is separate from the claimed loot we are keeping track of?
Yes. That is money, free and clear, above and beyond whatever you have claimed.
You are keeping track of what you have claimed because if at some point you and someone else want an item, and you have claimed more loot up to that point, they will generally get it.
Ideally, over the course of several levels, things will even out to be roughly fair that way.
In this next Loot, Kalimac will want 50 gp worth of the jewelry, if possible. He needs to finish his courtier's outfit. He'll also ask for the masterwork dagger, if it goes otherwise unclaimed. He won't fight for it if anyone else takes a shine to it, though.
Claimable items
Whispering Shrike -- +1 wakizashi of Shield Other with broken hilt (2,370 gp with broken hilt, 600 gp more if fixed)
Ring of climbing (1250 gp)
Wand of grease with 19 charges (142.5 gp)
Scroll of Water Walk, caster level 7 (262.5 gp)
Scroll of False Life, caster level 7 (175 gp)
Masterwork Chain Shirt, medium (125 gp)
Masterwork Chainmail, medium (150 gp)
Masterwork dagger, medium (151 gp)
Steel scabbard (15 gp)
Masterwork cold iron wakizashi, medium (185 gp)
11 Desnan candle fireworks (27.5 gp)
4 Skyrocket fireworks (100 gp)
Various pieces of fine jewelry worth a combined total of 760 gp total, including pieces of whatever make, style, and kind you would prefer, at whatever value you might like, that happen to go perfectly with your eyes, hair, and clothes (but please specify if you claim any)
Party items
5 potions of cure light wounds
2 potions of cure moderate wounds
3 potions of lesser restoration
2 scrolls of cure light wounds (caster level 7)
Unclaimable
5,820 sp
671 gp
Myri would be willing to take the "Whispering Shrike", however, she is primarily interested in it for it's appearance & accessory value with her entertainers outfit & does not plan on ever taking an exotic weapon feat (she would definitely be looking to get it repaired). So if anyone else is interested, please feel free to claim it. If someone else wants it, her secondary would be the masterwork cold iron wakizashi...however, since she is highly conscious of weight and encumbrance value (& really isn't that interested in it), again, if anyone wants it, feel free.
She also, is highly interested in finding 1 or more "sets" of jewelry that could be used as accessories for her entertainers outfit or future outfits.
The ring of climbing could be used by any number in the party. I will lay a tertiary claim to it(after any other one or two people who may be interested in it. ie. only if no one else takes it...is this becoming repetitive?). ... ... on second thought, forget I said that. I am claiming it (unless someone wants it who has already claimed less stuff, which is practically the whole group :)
Whispering Shrike...can be used to cast shield other on any creature touched by the blade while you wield it.
Does this mean it has to be held in one hand the entire time, or after it is cast can it be sheathed and the spell will still be effective as long as it is carried?
This can count as a claim from Melinda, but she would like Kalimac to give the Whispering Shrike to Ameiko along with the note intended for Ameiko's father.
Mel would like to put a claim (or party claim on the wand of grease). She can use it reliably and I think Hrunndalf will be able to shortly (if not already) and it can come in very handy.
Mel wouldn't mind the ring of climbing, but if it desired by any of the 'scout-y' character she would defer to them.
If there are any simple, beautiful pieces of jewelry featuring amber or opal, Mel would like a shot at them, but it is not a priority.
edit: I agree with Mel...and Kalimac below. I think that is a good use for the Whispering Shrike.
This can count as a claim from Melinda, but she would like Kalimac to give the Whispering Shrike to Ameiko along with the note intended for Ameiko's father.
Kalimac is happy to go along with this idea.
Mel would like to put a claim (or party claim on the wand of grease).
I'm simply not going to allow party claims on non-healing and non-restorative items. In the PBP system, it simply gets too confusing to keep track if it can expand to items of general use. So the wand of grease is only claimable by a person, not the party.
Rhost is interested in the masterwork chain, but is willing to claim the shirt & let Alaric have the mail -- since Alaric is squishier.
So put me down as a claim to the masterwork chain shirt.
There seems to be a surprising reticence among the party members to actually claim something. There's a lot of qualifying statements and other hedging.
Be bold! Ask for it straight. Really, we won't think you're a greedy so-and-so for wanting some item. And if you pick an item I also want, there will be no hurt feelings; I'll also ask for it, and we can work it out. We've established some idea of how priority will work. So no need for how you're not really attached to it. If two people claim it, that's when you say "that's ok, you take it."
Rhost is interested in the masterwork chain, but is willing to claim the shirt & let Alaric have the mail -- since Alaric is squishier.
Far, far squishier :)
If it weren't for the fact that the chain mail is sized medium, and thus won't fit me, I'd go for it. I am also proven to be quite squishy.
Alas, everyone is squishy to natural twenties, Kalimac.
Also, if Alaric gets the chain, that does free up a suit of medium Scale Mail, which he'll happily give to whoever.
I do think the magic items should stay in the party rather than being sold. So I think anyone who can use an item should speak up so it can be allocated. Most of the magic looks like it could be useful. Hate to see it sold.
With the two Cure Light Wounds potions that haven't been used, it looks like we have 14 restorative magics. If we evenly spread them around, that's two each. The scrolls of course should go to those who can use them effectively. Potions to everyone else.
There seems to be a surprising reticence among the party members to actually claim something. There's a lot of qualifying statements and other hedging.
Be bold! Ask for it straight. Really, we won't think you're a greedy so-and-so for wanting some item. And if you pick an item I also want, there will be no hurt feelings; I'll also ask for it, and we can work it out. We've established some idea of how priority will work. So no need for how you're not really attached to it. If two people claim it, that's when you say "that's ok, you take it."
I agree up to a point. The "hedging" is to let people know, "if you want this, speak up, because I'm only this side of keeping it rather than seeing it sold", not to mention 'now I've got all this "baggage" that may keep me from getting something I really want'. There hasn't been anything that has grabbed me from a standpoint of the "combat optimized characters I used to try to create. Wanting something more from the standpoint of "I think that would fit my character concept" hasn't yet emotionally grabbed me to the same extent. More of an "oh, that's cool" vs "OMG, I have got to have that...That is MINE."
anyway, point noted.
Modify to claiming the wand of grease... Way too useful for it to be sold. (Hrunndalf is welcome to it if he wants it.)
I agree up to a point. The "hedging" it to let people know, "if you want this, speak up, because I'm only this side of keeping it rather than seeing it sold", not to mention 'now I've got all this "baggage" that may keep me from getting something I really want'. There hasn't been anything that has grabbed me from a standpoint of the "combat optimized characters I used to try to create. Wanting something more from the standpoint of "I think that would fit my character concept" hasn't yet emotionally grabbed me to the same extent. More of an "oh, that's cool" vs "OMG, I have got to have that...That is MINE."anyway, point noted.
Partially I'm aiming my original post at myself.
And also I'll note that some people, like Lio, haven't been claiming any of this latest juicy haul since they've been at work, etc.
Personally I'm planning on reading any claims as a lukewarm "oh, cool" rather than an Igor-ish "IT MUST BE MINE!" unless the poster makes his/her urgency clear.
And long-term, if everyone is roughly equally claiming loot, then everyone will have equal baggage and it will all cancel out. Besides, I'm more than willing to cede my "oh, that's cool" claim to someone else's "IT MUST BE MINE!" (As long as they're not a twink abusing this stance of mine.)
agreed. that was another point I had that was not included. People who were not able to post (until later) should not feel like they are losing out. If something is claimed, but you want it, please let us know. Kyra's(?) system does have a mechanic to take care of it.
Oh, and agree with your other points as well.
Not only should one not feel left out because they were at work and could not post, and thus find someone has claimed that which they were interested in, one should not feel left out because their character hasn't even been introduced!
Just checking, the panties were not sold, right?
The panties were not sold. They were claimed by Hrithik.
Somehow.
Having somehow completely missed it on my first reading... I would like to claim the jade and cherry wood box that we found in the skeleton cave.
Oof, forgot about that. Everyone, the
Jade and Cherrywood Box (250 gp)
should be added to the most recent loot list. It is quite large and heavy.
Claimable items
Whispering Shrike -- +1 wakizashi of Shield Other with broken hilt (2,370 gp with broken hilt, 600 gp more if fixed)
Ring of climbing (1250 gp)
Wand of grease with 19 charges (142.5 gp)
Scroll of Water Walk, caster level 7 (262.5 gp)
Scroll of False Life, caster level 7 (175 gp)
Masterwork Chain Shirt, medium (125 gp)
Masterwork Chainmail, medium (150 gp)
Masterwork dagger, medium (151 gp)
Steel scabbard (15 gp)
Masterwork cold iron wakizashi, medium (185 gp)
11 Desnan candle fireworks (27.5 gp)
4 Skyrocket fireworks (100 gp)
Various pieces of fine jewelry worth a combined total of 760 gp total, including pieces of whatever make, style, and kind you would prefer, at whatever value you might like, that happen to go perfectly with your eyes, hair, and clothes (but please specify if you claim any)Party items
5 potions of cure light wounds
2 potions of cure moderate wounds
3 potions of lesser restoration
2 scrolls of cure light wounds (caster level 7)Unclaimable
5,820 sp
671 gp
claiming 600gp worth of jewelry
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This is all Ameiko's "inheritance", after a fashion. Her grandfather sent it to her father before the shipwreck stuck it here. With her father dead now, by some readings of the stuff is rightfully hers. Even if Ameiko doesn't want to claim it, it would reflect well on our good faith to at least offer it.
That said, no personal interest in anything but the two scrolls, and if anyone has a *competitive* relationship with Ameiko, this would be a great opportunity to thumb the nose at her by claiming salvage rights on the heirlooms :-)
Since things are progressing in the game, we can currently presume that Ameiko is given a Certain Amount of Stuff, to be determined, along with the letter.
Kalimac, you appear to have been at least nominated to be the bearer by dint of nearly getting killed to get the stuff.
Oh, since it's about to become a lot more relevant, a quick note about gift-giving --
I had one player approach me concerned that the mechanic felt like "bribing people to be friends". I noted that a "gift" in this context doesn't necessarily have to be something special, or even out of the ordinary, although of course it can be.
In response to a theoretical example I gave, the player said, "But that's just something I'd normally do for a friend!" Well ... exactly.
I see I have met mine nemesis. Ah, if only I had to come up with Insults against him rather than Ameiko. Nah, too easy. ;o)
For the record, I cannot cast Grease. The wand is all yours, Mel.
Of the items on the list, I am only interested in the chainmail, which is already taken, it seems. In any case, I am saving up for a breastplate, so I wouldn't keep the chainmail for long anyway.