Kyrademon's Transnational PBP -- Discussion, Description, and Preparation


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Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle of Battle 10

DM:
Kyrademon wrote:

Partial wand of Lesser Restoration (10–20 shots, ideally made by a Paladin for cheapness)

One is available with 11 charges, but not on made by a Paladin. Note also that it will still have a three round casting time.

Fair enough. I'll take it.

Quote:

Partial wand of Mirror Image (~10 shots ideally)

One with 18 charges is available.

Nice! Taken.

Quote:
One with 2 charges is available.

Tempting... but on second though, two shots is not going to give me a viable option against ranged opponents on the large scale of things, and the save DC is going to be pitiful. I think I'll just try to find some Magic Missile instead. It sure worked well for Iaurinn.

I think I'm going to reduce the belt of Str and Con to only Str and look for some Boots of Striding and Springing instead. I hate being slow, and it looks like I don't need the winterland boots anymore.

All together, that leaves me with 2776.8 gp of spending money. I'll look for a wand of Magic Missile of CL 9, 7, or 5 (in order of preference) and a number of charges that I can afford (i.e., 20, 26, or
37 shots at most, respectively).


Hrunndalf:
A CL 7 wand of magic missiles with 25 charges is available.


Human Ranger

Kyrademon:
Kyrademon wrote:
re: new moon, etc. No, I had not been keeping track. I have the last 5 recorded (so I should be able to figure it out), but not the interval. what is it again?

conversation/meeting prior to the Feast of Ancients
"Um, guys? Myri is still looking clearly embarrassed. "Um, whatever else we do, could I dance on the night of the Feast of Honored Visitors? I...would like to honor my sister...and...the memory of my mother as well."


Myriana Bayden wrote:

conversation/meeting prior to the Feast of Ancients

"Um, guys? Myri is still looking clearly embarrassed. "Um, whatever else we do, could I dance on the night of the Feast of Honored Visitors? I...would like to honor my sister...and...the memory of my mother as well."

I'm going to move this to the IC thread.


Human Ranger

Kyra:

My current thoughts:
Kyrademon wrote:

Haven't looked over the lists for "fun ranger stuff" yet, but some basic ideas from looking at your character sheet ...

Your armor class is quite low. Getting better armor and/or a ring of protection could be wise.

I agree. At this point, I expect something to hit Myri if she is targeted. However, if she gets armor, then I would rather she gets a ring of Chameleon over the Shokozu of the Night Wind.

Kyra wrote:
You could blow a big chunk of your cash on adding another quality to your bow, such as, say, Corrosive. It would be 10,000 gp, but it would increase your damage output significantly.

I am leaning towards this, but how long would it take? Are we expecting to be here longer than the 4? days remaining?

Kyra wrote:
A magic belt to get your Dex up a bit is always good for an archer.

also agreed, since it helps AC, Reflex save and to hit. am waffling between that or damage first, though. May depend on how long we are expected to be here. So I guess, I would be leaning towards additional damage, but because of time frame, I am probably closer to the increasing Dex option.

Kyra wrote:
I'll look for more odd and cool stuff when I have a chance.

Thank you.


Human Ranger
Kyrademon wrote:
Myriana Bayden wrote:

conversation/meeting prior to the Feast of Ancients

"Um, guys? Myri is still looking clearly embarrassed. "Um, whatever else we do, could I dance on the night of the Feast of Honored Visitors? I...would like to honor my sister...and...the memory of my mother as well."

I'm going to move this to the IC thread.

Sorry, didn't realize I was on ooc thread. Just responding to everything I "Favorited" during the day. Thank you for moving it there.


Myriana:
You would be able to get your bow upgraded in this manner if you wanted.

That leaves you around, what, 4,000 gp? So you could also get a Dex belt, which would help your AC a little ...

Some more nonstandard ranger stuff in that price range includes in that price range includes boots of friendly terrain or a lens of detection.


LOOT DISTRIBUTION

Efficient Quiver (900 gp) <-- goes to Melinda

All PCs (and the Caravan fund) receive 52.2 gp


Human Ranger

Kyra:
Kyrademon wrote:

You would be able to get your bow upgraded in this manner if you wanted.

That leaves you around, what, 4,000 gp? So you could also get a Dex belt, which would help your AC a little ...

okay, let's do that.


Myriana:
OK. The Dex belt will be available immediate. The bow will take several days to upgrade, and you will be without it during that time.


NOTES ON THINGS

Kyrademon wrote:
1) The keep-Ameiko-alive fund.

Most people have weighed in on this, and with the amounts donated thus far, she would have enough to purchase +1 Mithral Kikko Armor.

Rhost and Myriana:
I am aware that the two of you are going to have very little left after magic item purchases. Would each of you like to kick in 15 gp for this to make the numbers add up right? You don't have to if you don't want to.

Liothonae:
It is looking likely that only 1,000 gp will be required of you as your contribution to Ameiko's armor rather than 2,000 gp; currently, if you give 1,000 gp, there's enough to get her the +1 mithral, but 2,000 gp won't bump it up to anything better. This could change if someone else decides to raise or lower their contribution - I will keep you posted.

Kyrademon wrote:
2) Don't forget to try to sell trade goods in town if you wish to do so.

Remember that this requires an IC declaration.

Kyrademon wrote:
3) Current votes suggest that |This will represent Tien moving forward.|

And so it is.

Kyrademon wrote:

4) There have generally been votes in favor of:

- Selling the spare horses
- Buying 2 Ballistae and 1 Bag of Holding
- Having Kelda and Jorun switch jobs

As there have been no objections, all of these things can be considered approved.

Kyrademon wrote:
5) Based in part on some offline discussions (including a lot of hard work on Melinda's part), the GM might suggest a possible set up of: 7 drivers/5 spellcaster scouts (food)/5 guards/2 Entertainers/2 scouts (security)/1 scout (food)/1 Guide/1 Cook/1 fortune teller/1 Passenger ... including both the ballistae and your tenth level feat, and assuming a pair of horses are sold: Attack: 13, Security: 15, Resolve: 16, Consumption Without Spells: 10

As the spellcasters providing the food spells seem to approve of this plan, and there have been no objections, we shall proceed with the assumption that this is the new Caravan set-up.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle of Battle 10

DM:
Nice, I'll take that wand. That concludes my shopping spree. I've updated my sheet to reflect the new stats.

Incidentally, it occurred to me that my Diplomacy bonus is not even maxed at +20... I figure I should give it priority over Intimidate now that sparring with Ameiko has become less goal-oriented. ;o)

Also, I realized Ameiko's boon is pretty damn powerful. I kinda shrugged it off earlier because of the "sonic" part (when does that ever happen?), but a +4 vs mind-affecting effects? That's incredibly useful. :)


Human Ranger

Kyra:

Kyrademon wrote:
I am aware that the two of you are going to have very little left after magic item purchases. Would each of you like to kick in 15 gp for this to make the numbers add up right? You don't have to if you don't want to.

yes


Male Half-elf Barbarian

GM:
Yes. Rhost can donate to make the numbers add up right.


Male Half-elf Barbarian

liothonae:
It depends on the expected number of guests, the quality of food desired, and any specialty items. For the Caravan, best guess, 100 gp should be sufficient. Although I am just pulling this number out of thin air.

Rhost would rather contribute his time than be paid for wedding feast. If Liothonae insists, Rhost will generate a figure.


OK, Ameiko's armor may not be considered purchased. Anyone who donated money, please subtract that money off.

Liothonae:
Confirming that only 1,000 gp was needed from you. You are welcome to donate the extra 1,000 towards the hat of disguise instead if you want, but as Ameiko can afford that on her own, it might be better going towards Shalelu's ring or something.

If there is anyone who does NOT want that to count as your 10th level gift to Ameiko (among those of you who are in a noncompetitive relationship with her, of course), please let me know within 24 hours; after that, I'll do the rolls.


Kyrademon wrote:
- Selling the spare horses

Oh, and for selling the horses, please add 75 gp to the Caravan fund.


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

Kyrademon:
If I give Ameiko the Amulet of Natural Armor (like I planned) can that count WITH the money towards her armor as part of the "Don't you dare die on us" present?


Male Halfling Cavalier 10
Kyrademon wrote:
OK, Ameiko's armor may not be considered purchased. Anyone who donated money, please subtract that money off.

I presume the "not" in the above sentence is a typo. N'est ce pas?


Kalimac Proudfoot wrote:
Kyrademon wrote:
OK, Ameiko's armor may not be considered purchased. Anyone who donated money, please subtract that money off.
I presume the "not" in the above sentence is a typo. N'est ce pas?

You are correct. It should have been "now".

Melinda:
Re: Amulet - Sure.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle of Battle 10

Somehow I'm getting the uneasy feeling that we're participating in the Prince and Myriana's wedding festivities... :\


Male Human Cleric 10
Hrunndalf Jarlsson wrote:
Somehow I'm getting the uneasy feeling that we're participating in the Prince and Myriana's wedding festivities... :\

Alaric would be happy to provide the Prince's clothes. Sadly, the Prince is about a head too tall to fit into them, but there's an easy way around that.


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Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer
Kyrademon wrote:
Quote:
5) Based in part on some offline discussions (including a lot of hard work on Melinda's part), the GM might suggest a possible set up of: 7 drivers/5 spellcaster scouts (food)/5 guards/2 Entertainers/2 scouts (security)/1 scout (food)/1 Guide/1 Cook/1 fortune teller/1 Passenger ... including both the ballistae and your tenth level feat, and assuming a pair of horses are sold: Attack: 13, Security: 15, Resolve: 16, Consumption Without Spells: 10
As the spellcasters providing the food spells seem to approve of this plan, and there have been no objections, we shall proceed with the assumption that...

7 drivers (Bevelek, Kalimac, Kelda, Sandru, Tollin, Uksahkka, Vankor)

5 spellcaster scouts - food (Alaric, Hrunndalf, Jorun, Lio, Mel)
2 Entertainers (Ameiko, Myri)
1 Guide (Ulf)
1 Cook (Rhost)
1 fortune teller (Koya)
1 Passenger (Spivey)

2 scouts - food (Shae, Attatoq) ~ otherwise our consumption will be 12/day
1 scout - security (Buttersnips)

5 guards ... I only have 4 (Reta, Silmemir, Skygni, Zaiobe)
which makes sense ~ since 5 guards would = 26 people in the caravan

This set up give us: Attack +12, AC 20, Security +14, Resolve 16 and consumption without spells of 10

Kyrademon:
Consumption Calculation
13 wagons + 2 rhinos + 24 (people sans Spivey) = 39
-8 scout offset -3 rings of sustenance = -11 (down to 28 consumption)
-14 scouts bringing in food -2 cook = -16 (down to 12 consumption)
-2 efficent travelers (down to 10 consumption)

If we have 2 security scouts then 12 consumption per spells


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

And at the moment with the 2 Ballista and the Bag of Holding II, having sold 2 units of trade goods our cargo space is at 40 of 36 available. Since we can only sell at most 3 more trade good in the current town we need to drop one repair materials or one food stores.


Female Elven Urban Druid 9, Brightness Seeker 1

I suppose either way ....we can scavenge more materials, or up spells to cover food. I'd rather have my spells... so I vote one less repair material... and hope that doesn't come back to bite me later ;)


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

So far the caravan has always made sure that we get our consumption down to 0. When that is the case, we don't actually use the food stores.

We only use the repair materials when the caravan is damaged.

Both are only used in extremes. Right now we have 9 repair materials and 5 stores of food (which = 10 units of consumption each).


Male Half-elf Barbarian

One less repair material.


Human Ranger
Hrunndalf Jarlsson wrote:
Somehow I'm getting the uneasy feeling that we're participating in the Prince and Myriana's wedding festivities... :\

If so, I think it highly likely that one or both of them would not be long for this world.


Female Elven Urban Druid 9, Brightness Seeker 1
Myriana Bayden wrote:
Hrunndalf Jarlsson wrote:
Somehow I'm getting the uneasy feeling that we're participating in the Prince and Myriana's wedding festivities... :\
If so, I think it highly likely that one or both of them would not be long for this world.

don't worry, we can use the seal to resurrect you, and then reincarnate the Prince as something unpleasant.


Female Elven Urban Druid 9, Brightness Seeker 1

Kyrademon:
as a heads up, Lio is going to attempt to spend an hour or so baking Shae her own little birthday cake, which will then be in Lio and Shae's room, for after the feast. as Lio doesn't actually have profession cook, this might turn out interesting. luckily she has profession all at + 6. can't use profession gardener to make a cooking roll outside of caravan-ing, right?


Kyrademon wrote:
... please reduce your current units of Stores to 1 and spend 35 gp from the Caravan fund to reflect the replacement stores you would have had to purchase in Ul-Angorn.

You only have 1 set of food stores currently. You will have to purchase more if you want to get the number back up.


Liothonae:
Correct, you would need to make a Profession: Cooking roll, but I see you have already done so.


(Minor note - now that Zaiobe has realized she does not need to speak to use her Perform Act skill, Entertainer may be added to the list of Caravan jobs she can take.)


Myriana:
Sorry I suddenly lept ahead with the bachelorette party - I realized that the original timeline I had for it totally wasn't going to work. Myriana still would have had time to plan and prepare.


LOOT DIVISION POST

Masterwork carved Morin Khuur horsehead fiddle (750 gp)

Not Claimable:

Various trade good sales (3 thus far)


Male Human Cleric 10

Alaric will not claim the instrument.


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

No claim on the stringed instrument.


Male Halfling Cavalier 10

Kalimac will claim the fiddle. He'll give it to Ameiko.


Male Half-elf Barbarian

No claim on the fiddle.


Female Elven Urban Druid 9, Brightness Seeker 1

No claims.


Human Ranger

Myri considers at length. She does not, after all, know the first thing about playing a musical instrument. But it's such a nice fiddle. *sighs* no claims. ;)


Melinda:
In general, never make a post for a date that I haven't posted for yet. If you were attacked at dawn by assassins on Desnus 1 and several people died, it could seriously change up your plans for the day. Flex-time should always be to the past and never to the future for that reason.

Also, please keep game-related questions here rather than on e-mail, even minor ones. That is my work e-mail as well, and from experience, opening the floodgates of a game on it is a bad idea.


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

Kyrademon:
No problem. Sorry, just not used to game going at this pace. Except for when we were in Ravenscrag.


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LOOT DISTRIBUTION

Masterwork carved Morin Khuur horsehead fiddle (750 gp) <-- Goes to Kalimac

Money from sale of 4 units of trade goods:

All PCs and the Caravan Fund get 131.3 gp


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

Kyrademon:
Do the NPCs get any income from the loot we get?


Melinda:
No. Presently they have money only if they (1) had it from the beginning (Ameiko bought the hat of disguise by selling some magic items she no longer needed, such as a suit of magic leather armor), (2) are being paid for a Caravan job, or (3) made money some other way (Buttersnips has sold pieces), or (4) get gifts.

If the party wants to start giving them some, it could be put to a vote, but the default from the beginning has been that they do not.

After Ordu-Aganhei, I was going to stop including the Caravan fund in the split, since after this module, upgrading by leveling rather than through purchases will probably be enough. So I suppose that's one option to start spreading a little among the NPCs without totally screwing over WBL if people wanted - I could bring that up when I bring up no longer having a Caravan split, perhaps.


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

Kyrademon:
I was going to say I wanted to donate Mel's money from the selling of the trade goods to the caravan, but given that...

Can you please add 31.3 to Reta's funds and 100 gp to Zaiobe's please?

...
And if we do stop having a caravan split, I like the idea of our NPCs getting the money. Cause frankly, the NPCs we picked up in book 1 are getting screwed over in comparison to the NPCs from book 2.


Matter for Party Vote -

So, after Ordu-Aganhei, I'd been planning to suggest no longer including the Caravan Fund in the treasure split. After this latest purchase upgrade, I judge that simply leveling should be enough to keep the Caravan up to par for the rest of the Adventure Path. (You could still upgrade further if the party wanted to, but I thought it was at the point where doing so should be a matter of everyone voting and contributing funds rather than an automatic split, because it's no longer nearly as crucial.)

If this is done, either you all could start taking the money that would otherwise have gone to the Caravan Fund, or another possibility is that you could start giving what is currently given to the Caravan Fund to the NPCs instead. Currently, NPCs get no share of loot, although they can get gifts, payment for Caravan jobs in some cases, and some have occasionally made money through IC action of one kind or another.

If you did start giving them the money now going to the Caravan fund, they each would be getting about 1/20th of what each of you guys get, but that's really the max you could give them without borking yourselves as heroes who need equipment. They're not going to be able to afford powerful magic items, so if you want your lover or friend or relative to be well-equipped that will still have to come in the form of gifts from PCs, but it would mean they no longer had to go begging to the PCs whenever one of them wanted slightly better armor or maybe a fairly minor magic item or even, in some cases, get someone else a birthday gift or something, which is currently the case.

If this happened, to keep myself from having too many headaches as GM, I would simply declare that all eligible NPCs get an equal share of the NPC loot. I would, however, also say that they the few NPCs who are being paid for their jobs at the moment would no longer have to be, as even that small share would probably still be higher than what they're getting now, so whatever is currently in the Caravan fund (not a lot) could just be a reserve in case you need trade goods, stores, repair materials, etc.

All that having been said, please vote on one of the following options:

(1) Keep the Caravan Fund as it is, a 1/8 share of post-claim monetary loot division. Even if it is not strictly speaking necessary, I yearn for us to have the mightiest Caravan the world has ever seen!

(2) Switch the Caravan Fund to being an NPC fund. A 1/8 share of post-claim monetary loot shall be divided equally among all NPCs who are part of the Caravan, have an independent physical body that can move on its own, and have an intelligence greater than 2 (e.g., can spend, have a use for, and understand the concept of "money".)

(3) Eliminate the Caravan Fund entirely and institute no NPC fund. More money for me!


Male Human Cleric 10

I vote for 2.


Female Quarter-Orc Sorcerer

I vote for option (2).

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