LazarX |
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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.
thejeff |
thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
LazarX |
LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
Thing is... people who take the time to actually listen to Sanders come to understand that he's actually on their side. His biggest liability however remains his less than sterling relationship with minorities. He's working on that, but he can not win without their support. Trump's rampage may actually help him in this regard.
LazarX |
At one point, Mr. Comrade asked how many hot peppers the NP used and she replied, "Just one. Oh, wait a sec, do you guys consider jalapenos hot peppers?" She doesn't.
My spouse can and has drunk jalapeno sauce from the jar. But then again he IS half-Korean.
For myself, it works as well as garlic does as a repellant. But then I've got Transylvanian blood.
thejeff |
thejeff wrote:Thing is... people who take the time to actually listen to Sanders come to understand that he's actually on their side. His biggest liability however remains his less than sterling relationship with minorities. He's working on that, but he can not win without their support. Trump's rampage may actually help him in this regard.LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
"people who take the time to actually listen" are not a voting majority.
To dig up the old Adlai Stevenson bit:
During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Mr. Stevenson "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Stevenson called back "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"
Freehold DM |
thejeff wrote:Thing is... people who take the time to actually listen to Sanders come to understand that he's actually on their side. His biggest liability however remains his less than sterling relationship with minorities. He's working on that, but he can not win without their support. Trump's rampage may actually help him in this regard.LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
loads shotgun
What did he say about minorities?thejeff |
LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:Thing is... people who take the time to actually listen to Sanders come to understand that he's actually on their side. His biggest liability however remains his less than sterling relationship with minorities. He's working on that, but he can not win without their support. Trump's rampage may actually help him in this regard.LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
loads shotgun
What did he say about minorities?
Not enough is the general objection, I think. #BLM has protested him a couple times. It's mostly just that he's very focused on broad economic issues and not saying much on specific minority issues.
Clinton is generally perceived as paying more attention.At least that's how I see it.
Limeylongears |
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I just want to see Sanders and Trump debate the merits of BOFA.
According to the magic internet, 'bofa' is either an American manufacturer of filtration systems or the state of having multiple testicles in one's mouth. I, too, would like to see Trump and Sanders debate either or both of those things, but there is a slim possibility that you're talking about something else, Aniuś...
Comrade Anklebiter |
Freehold DM wrote:LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:Thing is... people who take the time to actually listen to Sanders come to understand that he's actually on their side. His biggest liability however remains his less than sterling relationship with minorities. He's working on that, but he can not win without their support. Trump's rampage may actually help him in this regard.LazarX wrote:thejeff wrote:We might be seeing signs that Sanders may be this election cycle's Obama for Presidential wanna-be Clinton. He's leading her in New Hampshire by 9 pts.Comrade Anklebiter wrote:Man, there doesn't seem like there's been a good politroll thread on here in a while.I am kind of surprised.
No one's been talking about how Trump is going to lead us all to a perfect capitalist utopia. Or how Bernie will drag us down into socialist hell. Or even how Rand Paul really will save us this time.
There's been plenty of good material out there. Just no takers here.
It's possible, but still pretty unlikely. New Hampshire's home ground and he's not doing so well elsewhere. Still better than I expected though. Definitely happy about that. Maybe being a "socialist" isn't a complete lockout any more. Possibly due to years of anything moderately liberal being called socialist:)
Also, I never would have predicted Trump would actually take a solid lead. I still don't think he'll go the distance, but my track record isn't looking so good.
loads shotgun
What did he say about minorities?Not enough is the general objection, I think. #BLM has protested him a couple times. It's mostly just that he's very focused on broad economic issues and not saying much on specific minority issues.
Clinton is generally perceived as paying more attention.At least that's how I see it.
Yeah, the Hillary spin-machine's been pretty slick on that one.
Back in the sixties, Bernie was in SNCC; Hillary was campaigning for Goldwater. Closer to the present, Bernie's got something like a 100% approval rating from the NAACP; Hillary's husband was the guy who put together the finishing touches on the New Jim Crow.
Not that I'm a fan, but still...
Comrade Anklebiter |
And, actually, #BLM activists didn't protest him, per se. They just disrupted two of his appearances, one in Seattle, which I posted about above, and an earlier one at some progressive Democratic confab with that guy who used to run Baltimore.
Apparently, Boston and Worcester #BLM activists were going to do the same thing to Hillary in New Hampshire, but they were spotted by her security team, whisked into a private meeting, and made to look like chumps.
Aniuś the Talewise |
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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:I just want to see Sanders and Trump debate the merits of BOFA.According to the magic internet, 'bofa' is either an American manufacturer of filtration systems or the state of having multiple testicles in one's mouth. I, too, would like to see Trump and Sanders debate either or both of those things, but there is a slim possibility that you're talking about something else, Aniuś...
i'm talking about bofa deez nuts
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In general, though, I've found that info-dumping socialist internet articles onto a fantasy role-playing game website to be not as much fun ever since I started actually meeting more and more authors of said socialist internet articles.
Like, this one:
The Sanders Paradox: a Brief for Bernie
by WILLIAM KAUFMAN
I met this guy a couple of months ago at a public meeting La Principessa and her comrades held at the Astoria Historical Society about Greece and SYRIZA a couple of days after Tsipras (the Greek Bernie Sanders?) stabbed the masses in the back. And he had the exact OPPOSITE position that he argues for in this article. As a matter of fact, within the following month, I watched him get into an epic Bernie Sanders Facebook debate with one of my NH comrades and one of my southern comrades, whom Comrade Kaufman went on to denounce as a "sexist piece of shiznit" because the former admitted to having frequented a Hooters a couple of times.
I mean, with endless entertainment material like that, I hope you all can forgive me for being lax in my posting of late.
Comrade Anklebiter |
Ooh! Ooh!
The paragraph where he talks about NASCAR and how most Americans only know about civil engagement from watching Judge Judy--he's reusing material from a separate Facebook Bernie Sanders debate with My Maoist-Inclined-Independent-Red-Historian-Rival-for-La-Principessa's-Affect ions-(Since-Vanquished)!
Aniuś the Talewise |
I like you, Anius the Talewise.
great to hear! As anarchist antifa sympathetic to anarcho-communism I was naturally attracted to this thread. unfortunately i've not read nearly as much anarchist/left literature as I would like so I don't have much to contribute.
that's a lot of a's.
Comrade Anklebiter |
I didn't have much to do with it, personally (see: long-standing opinion that environmentalism is boring), but most of the CAJE comrades double as 350 members and they successfully lobbied the City Council of Lowell, Mass. to divest from fossil fuels this evening.
Yay. I guess.
No, no, no. Long-standing opinion that divestment is a fraud notwithstanding, I'm quite proud of them.
Oh, reminds me: Lone-Working-Class-Black-Woman CAJE member's son, who was the subject of our court solidarity work, was recently pulled over by the cops for something or other, threatened with a punch in the face after he refused to talk about his on-going case and was then asked, "What's up with all those protesters at your trial?" Hee hee!
Mr. Comrade got paranoid for a bit, but I was all like, dude, how much weed do you smoke in the park behind the Nigerian Princess' loft complex? Don't you think if they were watching you, they'd already have picked you up?
Still, it's nice to be noticed.
Limeylongears |
Aaand he won!
Bony Tony is inconsolable.
Several members of the shadow cabinet have thrown their toys out of the pram and retired to the back benches to play with Lord Sainsbury's money in private.
Hopefully Corbyn will give Cameron the slapping he deserves sooner rather than later, though as Jez apparently believes in homeopathy, it may not be as vigorous as perhaps it should.
Comrade Anklebiter |
Comrade Anklebiter |
And a response to Comrade Kaufman:
Sanders and Lesser-Evilism: Is There No Line You Will Not Cross?
by BRUCE LESNICK
LazarX |
And a response to Comrade Kaufman:
Sanders and Lesser-Evilism: Is There No Line You Will Not Cross?
by BRUCE LESNICK
Yes another article escoriating Sanders because he fails a socialist/communist/whatever purity test. It includes a strawman question about voting for Sanders if he was a Republican while ignoring the fact that there is no chance in hell that the Republican party would have him. And he's not going to repeat the Ralph Nader mistake.
Sanders seeking the Democratic nomination isn't that surprising. He's voted with the Democrats far often than not. One nightmare scenario by a conservative blog is the thought that come election day voters may wind up choosing between Trump and Sanders, both canidates they have little love for.
Fact of the matter is... the United States is a duopoly. Nothing short of an extinction event is going to change that for 2016, 2020, or any election in the next twenty years.
The choice for the so-called left is simple. Do you continue to stump for candidates whose parties are long on rhetoric and short on anything else, or do you vote for a man who actually IS sympathetic on most of your positions and has a shot of actually doing the Obama on Clinton?
LazarX |
The vehemence of liberals and soft-lefts about the hard left holding out on Sanders amuses me greatly. I mean, really? You guys can't get anything done without the commies helping out?
Trust me, I'm not holding my breath waiting for the day you guys will actually do anything useful. The so-called "hard left" is basically a mix of the left version of conspiracy wing-nuts, and CIA plants.
Comrade Anklebiter |
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Article that showed up on my Facebook feed when Comrade Samnell and a comrade in New York shared it at the same time!
The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration: 50 Years After the Moynihan Report
It's pretty long, haven't read the whole thing yet, but it goes pretty well with the chapter discussing "black matriarchy" I just re-read in bell hooks.
Limeylongears |
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Went marching outside the Tory conference today - 60,000 people turned up, apparently, though they didn't let us near the hall itself.
CPB - 1
SWP - 1
Socialist Party - 1
Left Unity - 1
Green Party - 1
CPGB (ML) - 2
CPGB (PCC) - 2
Indian Workers Association - 2
Socialist Equality Party - 5
Communist League (British equivalent to the US SWP) - 10
International Bolshevik Tendency - 10
National Association of Barge Dwellers (Hands Off Our Barges, You Beasts!) - 10
Socialist Party of Great Britain - 15
Total: 61
Comrade Anklebiter |
French Labor Protests Are Crazy, and Surprisingly Effective
"They tear the clothes off corporate managers, kidnap their bosses, and booby-trap factories"
Vive le Galt!
Comrade Anklebiter |
Comrade Anklebiter's Activist Friends in the News!
Big Will from the Iraq Veterans Against the War (as opposed to Old Will from the Vietnam Veterans Agaist the War)
WATCH: Iraq veteran calls out Hillary Clinton for ‘close ties to the military-industrial complex’
Also, article put out by my South African comrades that Mr. Comrade thought was pretty good, but I haven't read yet, so posting here for later:
Comrade Anklebiter |
Oh yeah, Lowell in the news:
Student appears to mimic Donald Trump in racist text message chain about black class president
"Headmaster Brian Martin told the Sun he couldn’t release the identities of the students who were suspended because they are all minors."
Apparently, one of them is a son of a City Councilman.
CAJE will be at the Saturday demos.
Picked up our third court solidarity case, which reminds me that I forgot to mention that our first case, Devante Degree, beat the charges!
Woo hoo!
The system is a cage! The system is a cage! The system is a cage!
Comrade Anklebiter |
Comrade Anklebiter |
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Well, the CAJE and #BlackLivesMatter Cambridge group photo is behind security clearance at the moment, so I guess you'll have to be satisfied with this one of me and the Nigerian Princess holding aloft our "Black Power" banner.
It really takes three people to hold that banner and an elderly couple stepped up to the challenge. They traded off between themselves and at one point the woman, who hadn't seen the front, asked what the banner said. "Black Power," I answered. "Ooh, just like the sixties, how exciting! And what are those sticking out of your coat pocket?" "Why, socialist newspapers, of course." "Socialist newspapers! Harold, Harold, the revolution's finally here, just fifty years later than we thought!"
thejeff |
Group protests handling of LHS texting incident
Nice photos
Better article
First time I heard of this.
I was feeling optimistic this morning. Then I read the comments.Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity.
Limeylongears |
So are the Nazi's Socialist since the party is actually called the National Socialist German Worker's Party, and on top of that, some of their regular policy is pretty socialist as well.
Was, since it doesn't exist any more. The tribute acts do, more's the pity.
It is possible to be a socialist while opposing the State entirely, as our Anarchist chums will be delighted to tell you. LET THE FORUM GAMES BEGIN!!!
thejeff |
NenkotaMoon wrote:So are the Nazi's Socialist since the party is actually called the National Socialist German Worker's Party, and on top of that, some of their regular policy is pretty socialist as well.Was, since it doesn't exist any more. The tribute acts do, more's the pity.
** spoiler omitted **
It is possible to be a socialist while opposing the State entirely, as our Anarchist chums will be delighted to tell you. LET THE FORUM GAMES BEGIN!!!
In fact, it's generally considered that a large part of the point of fascism was to provide an alternative to communism that used nationalism and racism to distract the workers from their real problems and focus their anger elsewhere than on the elites. Mussolini was fairly explicit about this.