I'm gonna be working on a Shadow Assassin build (From Super Genius Games) and exploiting the urumi. That weapon didn't come out until after this class did, and one of the class features they can take (for a significant investment) increases the crit multiplier of exotic weapons from x2 to x3. 15-20/x3? Yes please. Even if they're a 3/4th BAB class, that should make up for it.
I'll work on that later.
could I use permanency-shrink item on a scorpion corpse before I animate it? Then on command I could either have a medium 34 HD fast zombie or a colossal one(I have no idea how shrink item would affect their ability scores though it would reduce the size penalty to hit/ac and the damage of natural attacks).
The HD limit for zombies is 28. As for how it affects stats I could not find any rules for it. It would be a GM call. I will have to consider how to handle this for my own games.
I'm not a crunch guy or a math guy, but I find the whole idea of finding out the dpr of classes interesting.
So to add my two cents in: Some of you guys with high BAB and dual wielding kukris, would it be worth it to dual wield large kukris? As light weapons, they become one handed 2d6 martial weapons. Which ups your minimum damage, in exchange for a -2 to hit on each.
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I'm gonna be working on a Shadow Assassin build (From Super Genius Games) and exploiting the urumi. That weapon didn't come out until after this class did, and one of the class features they can take (for a significant investment) increases the crit multiplier of exotic weapons from x2 to x3. 15-20/x3? Yes please. Even if they're a 3/4th BAB class, that should make up for it.
I'll work on that later.
Katana are cooler and have the same stats. ;)
Marty the Master Summoner
Master Summoner
Male True Neutral Human
Summoner (Master Summoner) 10
Strength: 8 (-1)
Dexterity: 14/18 (+2/+4)
Constitution: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 14 (+2)
Wisdom: 10 (0)
Charisma: 18/22 (+4/+6)
Hit Points: 73 HP
Initiative: +6
Attack Bonus: +7/+2 (melee: +4/-1) (ranged: +11/+6)
Fortitude Save: +9 Reflex Save: +10 Will Save: +10
Armor Class(with barkskin and combat expertise): 28 (touch: 20) (flat-footed: 21) CMB: +6 CMD: 26
Feats & Traits: Arcane Strike, Armor Proficiency (Light), Augment Summoning, Combat Expertise +/-2, Dodge, Extend Spell, Great Fortitude, Simple Weapon Proficiency - All, Superior Summoning, Focused Mind, Reactionary
Special Abilities: Summoning Mastery V (11/day) (Sp), Aspect (Su), Eidolon Link (Ex), Hero Points (1), Lesser Eidolon, Life Link (Su), Maker's Call/Transposition (2/day) (Su), Share Spells with Eidolon (Ex)
+1 Longspear (+5/+0, 1d8 damage, crit 20/x3)
Magic Items: +1 Longspear, Belt of Incredible Dexterity, +4, Cloak of Resistance, +3, Headband of Alluring Charisma, +4, Ring of Protection, +3
Spells: Barkskin (2), Bull's Strength, Mass (4), Detect Magic (0), Dimension Door (3), Enlarge Person (1), Glitterdust (2), Guidance (0), Haste (2), Heroism (3), Invisibility (2), Light (0), Mage Armor (1), Mage Hand (0), Magic Fang, Greater (3), Message (0), Overland Flight (4), Read Magic (0), Rejuvenate Eidolon, Lesser (1), See Invisibility (2), Shield (1), Unfetter (1), Wall of Ice (3)
Eidolon
Male True Neutral Serpentine
Strength: 10 (0)
Dexterity: 22 (+6)
Constitution: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 7 (-2)
Wisdom: 10 (0)
Charisma: 11 (0)
Acrobatics: +10
Escape Artist: +10
Fly: +12
Perception: +15
Stealth: +25
Hit Points: 28 HP
Initiative: +6
Attack Bonus: +5 (melee: +5) (ranged: +11)
Fortitude Save: +2 Reflex Save: +10 Will Save: +4
Armor Class: 23 (touch: 17) (flat-footed: 17) CMB: +9 CMD: 19 (flat-footed: 13)
Feats & Traits: Weapon Finesse
Special Abilities: Darkvision (60 feet), Scent (Ex), Damage Resistance, Fire (10), Climbing (20 feet), Flight (20 feet, Good), Tail (Ex), Evasion (Ex)
•Bite (Bite) (+13, 1d4+2 damage, crit 20/x2)
•Tail Slap (Tail Slap) (+6, 1d4 damage, crit 20/x2)
Augmented Summoned Lion
Male True Neutral Lion
Strength: 25 (+7)
Dexterity: 17 (+3)
Constitution: 19 (+4)
Intelligence: 2 (-4)
Wisdom: 12 (+1)
Charisma: 6 (-2)
Hit Points: 42 HP
Initiative: +7
Attack Bonus: +2 (melee: +9) (ranged: +5)
Fortitude Save: +8 Reflex Save: +7 Will Save: +2
Armor Class: 15 (touch: 12) (flat-footed: 12) CMB: +11 CMD: 24 (flat-footed: 21)
Feats & Traits: Improved Initiative, Run, Skill Focus: Perception
Special Abilities: Low-Light Vision, Scent (Ex), +4 Stealth in undergrowth (Ex), Grab (Medium) (Ex), Pounce (Ex)
•Bite (Lion) (+9, 1d8+7 damage, crit 20/x2)
•Claw x2 (Lion) (+9 x2, 1d4+7 damage, crit 20/x2)
•Rake x2 (Lion) (+9 x2, 1d4+7 damage, crit 20/x2)
Note, I am hedging the rules here. 11 summons per day at 10 minutes per summoning means that the summoner can have 1d3+1 lions following them around for 110 minutes per day which is longer than the duration of a 10 min/level spell, so I am working on the assumption for this scenario that the summoner has 3 lions following them when the fight starts.
Round 1: cast mass's bull's strength, all the lions pounce
With Bull's Strength each lion does 20.8 DPR, a +1 to hit is 5.3 DPR, +1 to damage is 1.75, extra attack is 4.7.
The summoner gets 1d3+1 lions, so with an average of 3 lions, the summoner does 62.5 DPR, +1 to hit is 15.8 DPR, +1 dam is 5.3.
Round 2: Cast haste.
If the lion's can pounce again, they will do 29.2 damage each, +hit gives 6.0 more damage, +damage gives 2 DPR.
If the lion cannot pounce, the will do 10.0 DPR, +hit gives 3.7, +dam gives 1.2
Multiple by 3 for total damage.
Observations
The character is primarily a group support character who can dish out some decent damage. The damage is pretty good, but if you look at the spell list, this character is also a huge asset to the other party members. With 28 AC, and 73 hp, a summoner isn't exactly squishy either, they can hang out near the melee, and give flanking bonuses.
The Eidolon is not a combat creature, but rather is designed to be a group scout with +25 stealth, +15 perception, and the summmoner can make it invisible/unfettered. As such, I have left the pet's damage out of the equation.
Given a round or 2, the summoner can easily summon more lions and their damage multiplies accordingly. This build multiplies it's damage for every round you have to prepare. If given unlimited rounds to prepare, the damage caps out at around 577.4 DPR(11 summons of 3 creatures each with 2 castings of mass bull's strength to buff 20 of them).
Since the damage is based on multiple creatures with lots of attacks, inspire courage really boosts the damage. With a level 10 bard in the picture, the DPR goes up to 93.8 per 3 lions.
Great action economy. Since all of the damage comes from summoned creatures, there is no opportunity cost if the summoner want to UMD a cure critical from a wand on the fighter in round 3. After buffing the summons, the summoner is free to sit back and do whatever the group needs them to.
In a party situation, it would probably be better to cast haste over mass bull's strength on round 1, but that is a loss in the summoner's DPR.
The summoner never attacks enemies directly, so you can do everything in combat with normal invisibility up.
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So to add my two cents in: Some of you guys with high BAB and dual wielding kukris, would it be worth it to dual wield large kukris? As light weapons, they become one handed 2d6 martial weapons. Which ups your minimum damage, in exchange for a -2 to hit on each.They scale up to d6 when you go up a size, not 2d6. I think you were looking at d4 in the tiny weapon column, not the medium weapon column. On top of that, you get -2 for the wrong size grip and -2 for dual-wielding non-light weapons.
I don't think -4 to hit for +1 damage is a good plan.
scimitars are better since there is no -2 size penalty.
isnt dual non light weapons -4
This is similar to an earlier build, but I was looking at the power of dervish dance in the hands of a Ranger/Vivisectionist. 2 levels of ranger lets me take power attack without needing a 13 strength and gives me scimitar profiency. Alchmist(Vivisectionist) gives me sneak attack, heroism, barkskin, and a feral mutagen with a dex boost that stacks with belt of dexterity. I picked half elf because the alternate racial trait dual-minded helps with the low will save.
Half-Elf Alchemist (Vivisectionist) 8, Ranger 2
DPS Ranger/Alchemist
Male True Neutral Half-Elf
Alchemist (Internal Alchemist, Vivisectionist) 8, Ranger 2
Strength: 8 (-1)
Dexterity: 18/26 (+4/+8)
Constitution: 14 (+2)
Intelligence: 14 (+2)
Wisdom: 12/10 (+1/0)
Charisma: 10 (0)
Hit Points: 86 HP
Initiative: +8
Attack Bonus: +10/+5 (melee: +6/+1) (ranged: +18/+13)
Fortitude Save: +13 Reflex Save: +19 Will Save: +9
Armor Class: 34 (touch: 19) (flat-footed: 25)
CMB: +7 CMD: 26 (flat-footed: 17)
Feats & Traits: Brew Potion, Craft Magic Arms & Armor, Dervish Dance, Dodge, Iron Will, Power Attack -3/+6, Weapon Finesse, Armor Expert, Indomitable Faith
Special Abilities: Uncanny Dodge (Ex), Bleeding Attack +4 (Ex), Breath Mastery, Enemies: Humanoids (Human) (+2 bonus), Fast Poisoning (Move Action) (Ex), Feral Mutagen (Su), Poison Use, Spontaneous Healing (20/day)
•+3 Scimitar (+18/+13, 1d6+19 damage, crit 18-20/x2)
•Bite (Mutagen, Feral) (+11, 1d8+5 damage, crit 20/x2)
•Claw (Mutagen, Feral) (+11 x2, 1d6+5 damage, crit 20/x2)
•Tentacle (Tentacle) (+11, 1d4+5 damage, crit 20/x2)
Magic Items: +3 Scimitar, Amulet of Mighty Fists +1, Belt of Incredible Dexterity, +4, Celestial Armor, Feral Mutagen: +4 DEX, -2 WIS, +2 Nat AC
Spells: Barkskin, Cure Light Wounds (x2), Fly, Heroism, Invisibility (x3), See Invisibility, Shield (x2), True Strike
Spells in effect: Heroism, See Invisibility, Barkskin
A full attack gives you 2 scimitar attacks, 1 claw, 1 bite, and 1 tentacle.
Basic attack with power attack: 43.1 DPR, +hit 3.9 DPR, +dam 2.7 DPR, +attack 19.4 DPR
Flanking with power attack: 92.2 DPR, +hit 7.4 DPR, +dam 3.2 DPR, +attack 33.9 DPR
Flanking with Power Attack against a favored enemy: 114.6 DPR, +hit 8.0 DPR, +dam 3.8 DPR, +attack 40.1 DPR
Observations
Normal AC is 34, that is 10 above the required AC. The character also heal themselves for up to 20 points per day via spontaneous healing as a swift action making this character very non-squishy.
This character also ends up with a +21 stealth check, and has invisibility 3 times a day. +16 to perception, +21 disable device and see invisibility make this character a very good party scout. The only thing that is lacking is trapfinding, which is nice, but not strictly necessary.
Has the ability to use poison. Note that poison use and bleeding attack are both potential damage increases that are not currently in the DPR calculations. I see this character as being what the assassin class wishes it could be. Who needs death attack when you can one round your target from stealth/invisibility?
Charender, don't forget that the lions that Marty the Master Summoner uses would get either the Celestial or Fiendish template. That means they get Smite Evil/Good as a swift action. While it wouldn't be of use against every enemy, a True Neutral Summoner will get more flexibility out of this by being able to choose which one he needs on the fly. And since Smite is a swift action to activate, the lions can use it on their turn before they pounce.
Charender, don't forget that the lions that Marty the Master Summoner uses would get either the Celestial or Fiendish template. That means they get Smite Evil/Good as a swift action. While it wouldn't be of use against every enemy, a True Neutral Summoner will get more flexibility out of this by being able to choose which one he needs on the fly. And since Smite is a swift action to activate, the lions can use it on their turn before they pounce.
You are right, I missed the * next to the lion entry. It would be +0 to hit, and +5 damage to the first creature attack by the lion each day.
I also forgot to factor in the lion's 5% crit chance, so the damage would be about 5% higher that what I calculated.
Corvin Black, the Powerful Pistolero
Level 10 Human Gunslinger (Pistolero)
<Uses only CRB and Ultimate Combat>
STR 10 (+0)
DEX 23 (+6) [15 base, +4 enh, +2 racial, +2 level]
CON 13 (+1)
INT 12 (+1)
WIS 18 (+4) [14 base, +4 enh]
CHA 8 (-1)
CLASS FEATURES:
1 - Deeds, Grit (Ex), Gunsmith
2 - Nimble (Ex) +1
3 - Deeds
4 - Bonus feat
5 - Pistol training 1
6 - Nimble (Ex) +2
7 - Deeds
8 - Bonus feat
9 - Pistol training 1
10 - Nimble (Ex) +3
DEEDS:
1 - Gunslinger's Dodge (Ex), Up Close and Deadly (Ex), Quick Clear (Ex)
3 - Gunslinger Initiative (Ex), Pistol-Whip (Ex), Utility Shot (Ex)
7 - Deadeye (Ex), Dead Shot (Ex), Targeting (Ex)
FEATS:
1 - Gunsmithing, Rapid Reload, Point Blank Shot
3 - Rapid Shot
4 - Deadly Aim
5 - Precise Shot
7 - Weapon Focus (double-barreled pistol)
8 - Improved Precise Shot
9 - Improved Critical (double-barreled pistol)
ABILITY SCORE INCREASES:
4 - DEX
8 - DEX
EQUIPMENT (62,000 gp):
Belt of Incredible Dexterity +4 (16,000 gp)
Headband of Inspired Wisdom +4 (16,000 gp)
+3 Double-Barreled Pistol (20,050 gp)
Alchemical cartridge, paper x 500 (3,000 gp)
+2 Leather Armor (4,010 gp)
Handy Haversack (2,000 gp)
And now for the math! I included Point-Blank Shot in the calculations, since the Range Increment on the double-barreled pistol is only 20ft. Also, I am assuming the Gunslinger has activated his Boots of Speed, is utilizing Rapid Shot and Deadly Aim, and is firing both barrels each shot. Rapid Reload plus Paper Cartridges makes reloading between shots a free action. I didn't bother calculating how an extra +1 to attack would benefit DPR, since all four attacks are already only missing on Misfires.
ATT - +14/+14/+14/+9 [+10 BAB, +6 Dex, +3 enh, +1 WF, +1 PBS, +1 Haste, -2 RS, -2 DA, -4 Double-Barrel]
DMG - 2d8+15 [+6 Dex, +4 DA, +3 enh, +1 Pistol Training, +1 PBS]
AVG - 24 hit, 96 crit
4*((0.75*24)+(0.015*24)+(0.085*96))= 4*26.52 = 106.08
SPENDING GRIT on UP CLOSE & PERSONAL:
((0.75*34.5)+(0.015*34.5)+(0.085*106.5))+(0.15*4.25)=36.0825
Normal DPR: 106.08
+1 Attack: +26.52
+1 Damage: +4.42
Up Close & Personal: +9.5625 per Grit Point
DPR w/4 Grit: 144.33
Also, I am assuming the Gunslinger has activated his Boots of SpeedWhat does his damage look like without Boots of Speed? Those are one of the restricted buffs.
Ack. Beyond that, I completely forgot to actually pay for Boots of Speed, as well. D'oh.
In any event, the corrected numbers are as follows:
+1 to DAMAGE:
3*((0.75*25)+(0.015*25)+(0.085*100))=82.875
SPENDING GRIT on UP CLOSE & PERSONAL:
((0.75*34.5)+(0.015*34.5)+(0.085*106.5))+(0.15*4.25)=36.0825
Normal DPR: 79.56
Bonus Attack: +26.52
+1 to Damage: +3.315
Up Close & Personal: +9.5625 per Grit Point
DPR w/3 Grit: 108.2475
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Ability Scores:
STR: 24 (18 base, +2 level, +4 belt)
DEX: 14
CON: 14
INT: 9
WIS: 14
CHA: 7
HP: 92 HP (10d10+20+8 favored class)
Saving Throws
Fort: +14 Ref: +8 Will: +10
AC: 26 – Touch 14, Flat Footed 23 (+11 O-Yori +3, +2 Dex, +1 Dodge, +1 Ring of Protection, +1 Amulet of Natural Armor)
Attacks: +2 Nodachi +22/+14, d10+24/d10+28 (15-20/x2)
Special Attacks:
Brace: +2 Nodachi +22, 3d10+56 (15-20/x2)
Haste: +2 Nodachi +23/+20/+15,d10+24/d10+28 (15-20/x2)
Class Abilities:
Challenge 1/day
Mount
Resolve 1/day
Order: Ronin (Self-Reliant)
Weapon Training (Two-Handed Weapons)
Shattering Strike
Overhand Chop
Backswing
BAB: +10/+5 CMB: +17 CMD: 29
Feats:
Weapon Focus (Nodachi)
Power Attack
Iron Will
Improved Iron Will
Furious Focus
Weapon Specialization (Nodachi)
Vital Strike
Improved Sunder
Dodge
Improved Critical (Nodachi)
Greater Weapon Focus (Nodachi)
Skills:
Flesh out for RP purposes
Gear:
Nodachi +2 (8,000)
O-Yoroi +3 (9,700)
Belt of STR +4 (16,000)
Boots of Speed (12,000)
Cloak of Resistance +3 (9,000)
Ring of Protection +1 (2,000)
Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (2,000)
Handy Haversack (2,000)
1,300 gp of misc. gear
Full Attack DPR 76.08.
+1 to hit DPR 4.96
+1 to damage DPR 2.09
Brace(using the rule no -2 AC is applied):DPR 99.54
Hasted DPR 125.92
This is an attempt to make a flavorful Samurai type character that is a viable combatant as well.
Why Samurai? Arguably the number one weakness of a Fighter is the “will save or die” abilities. These moments are prevalent in the higher tier PFS mods. Against such tragedy, this character can: once per day roll twice and take better result (resolute), once per day roll again (improved will), on failed will save with duration roll again next round (Ronin), and once per session roll again (PFS shirt lol).
Why Nodachi? Sam is designed to taunt his foes into charging, slicing off their heads with a single slash by his Nodachi in classic Samurai fashion. Assuming your foe charges and isn’t killed by his brace attack, Sam is pumping out DPR 225.46 (Brace then Hasted) to the enemy’s single charge.
If anyone is up for the mathomancy, I'd love to see the DPR of a 10th level Beastmorph / Vivisectionist mutagen focused alchemist in plate armor. With results for with sneak attack, and without it.
Here is my humble submission. I originally posted to the old DPR Olympics thread. I didn't know this one existed yet! I apologize if a similar posting has been made (dpr threads tend to be tl;dr :P )!
Cathy the Crazy Cat Lady (Summoner 10):
** spoiler omitted **Terry the (Eidolon) Tiger:
** spoiler omitted **Here's how it goes down: Cathy casts the wordspell Selected Servitor VI Boost as a standard action to summon 1d4+1 Celestial/Fiendish Dire Tigers, plus and additional one...
I did not understand how you could summon Dire Tigers, from the summon monster lvl 6 list.
Here's how it goes down: Cathy casts the wordspell Selected Servitor VI Boost as a standard action to summon 1d4+1 Celestial/Fiendish Dire Tigers, plus and additional one...I did not understand how you could summon Dire Tigers, from the summon monster lvl 6 list.
More importantly, boosting the Selected target word of Servitor VI raises the effect word by three levels, making it a level 7 Summoner word-spell. How is a level 10 summoner casting a 7th level spell?
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this is an interesting thread and good work by all.
however it would be cool to see a 25pt buy version of this thread as i'd argue that most casual games use something closer to this.
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some of the builds i see focus on feats to maximize damage at 10th level, which is the main purpose, however no one would actually use these builds as they have no vision for levels 11 to 20.
one of the stipulations be, "would i actually play this?" meaning in the normal course of play your PC might actually look like this at 10th level.
one of the stipulations be, "would i actually play this?" meaning in the normal course of play your PC might actually look like this at 10th level.
That's completely subjective, there is no way to enforce that, and it's outside the scope of DPR. You can take the ideas presented and strip away the things you wouldn't use if you like, but this isn't a race of roleplayable bemoustached characters, it's a DPR thread.
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disclaimer : English is not my native tongue, all my apologies for errors.
in honor to Padma the Pyromancer,
here's Hyaluronic, the human wordcaster sorcerer 10 (crossblooded Primal/earth and Orc)
* for the gadgets, he has (from bloodlines):
darkvision 60ft, fearless, +2 AC, +2 Str, elemental ray (...)
* traits :
Magical lineage : -1 level MM modifier
shadow child (from Council of thieves): no 20% miss chance if target in dim shadow (if target is beyond darkvision); but you can take reactionary : +2 init
* feats :
extend spell (human), eschew material (sorcerer 1), MetaWord mastery (level 1), weapon focus ray (level 3), intensify spell (level 5), MetaWord Mastery (level 7), empower spell (sorcerer 7), MetaWord mastery (level 9)
* Carac :
ST: 8
DX: 13 (+1 4th level +2 human +2 item) --> 18
CN: 14
IN: 10
WS: 12
CH: 15 (+1 8th level, +4 item) --> 20
(note that the increaased Cha only gives more spells/day. you could play him with Cha 12)
* Spell Words :
CORROSIVE BOLT (ACID)
School conjuration (creation) [acid]
Level sorcerer/wizard 2
Duration 2 rounds
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no
Target Restrictions selected
A wordspell with this effect word deals 1d4 points of acid damage per level of the wordcaster (maximum 5d4). On the following round, the target takes this damage again. Hitting a target with a wordspell with this effect word requires a ranged touch attack.
metawords : 14/day (5 for level + 3x3 for feats)
selected, lenghty, ...* items :
+4 cha, +2 dex,
lesser metamagic rod "elemental" (in case of acid-resistant opponent)
lesser metamagic rod "ectoplasmic" (in case of ethereal/incorporeal opponent)
for the rest ...
* damage calculation
base spell level 2 : selected corrosive bolt : RTA, 5D4 (+10), 2 Rounds of damage
( magical lineage reducing MM mod by 1)
Slot level 5 (x4) :
base, intensified (+1), empowered(+2), Extended (+1):
(10d4+20)x1.5, 4R = (25+20)x6 = 270 damage
Slot Level 4 (x6) :
base, intensified (+1), empowered(+2), Lenghty metaword (+0)
same 270 damage
(6 MW used, 8 remains)
Slot Level 3 (x7) :
base, intensified (+1), Extended (+1):
(10d4+20), 4R = (25+20)x4 = 180 damage
Slot Level 2 (x7) :
base, intensified (+1), Lenghty metaword (+0)
same 180 damage
(7 MW used, 1 remains)
* DPR calculation:
to get an average "D" for the formula
24R for an average per round (270x6+270x4+180x7+180x7)/24
D = 217.5
Touch AC 12 vs BAB 5 + 1 weapon focus + 4 Dex ->
miss on 1, touch otherwise
H=0.95,
critical X2 on 20 :
T=0.05 C=1 (criticalx2)
so for 24 Rounds per day (then you have to rely on acid dart or cantrip acid burst for 1d3+2)
DPR = 0.95x217.5x(1+0.05x1) = 216,95625
note : for level 5 slots, you could replace it by
Boost selected lengthy corrosive blast + intensified,
10 targets, for 180 Dam each (again, no ST, no SR)
it also cost you 2 metawords, reducing your later firepower.
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Is this legal / RAW ?
The Pouncing Synthesist
Half-Elf Synthesist 10 (while fused)...
Also, I do like the animal companion shenanigans for non-feat-strapped builds. Nice spot.
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added to quote for clarity: 3 feats to get an animal companion
* Skill focus (Knowledge-Nature)
* Eldritch heritage: Sylvan (req lvl 3 and Cha 13) sorcerer level : level -2
gives you a companion with druid level = sorcerer level -3 => level -5
* (Boon companion) not mandatory, boosts the companion to druid level = level - 1
I did not check that the build had the proper level for the animal companion,
butAnimal Companion (Ex): At 1st level, you gain an animal companion. Your effective druid level for this ability is equal to your sorcerer level – 3 (minimum 1st).
This bloodline power counts as your bloodline arcana and also replace laughing touch
I bolded the "problematic" part.
can you, with eldritch heritage, get a power that counts as an arcana as well ?
can you, with eldritch heritage, get a power that counts as an arcana as well ?
Bigger issue; its only available via the Wildblooded Archetype, which you almost certainly dont have access to via feats.
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Hyaluronic, the human wordcaster sorcerer 10 (crossblooded Primal/earth and Orc)
Meta word mastery can only be taken once. You're actually looking at a total of 8 uses/day.
Also magical lineage says "Pick one spell". An effect from words of power isn't a spell, so it's not a valid target for magical lineage.
Fiery Fred, the pyromaniac Crossblooded Sorcerer Draconic/primal 10
Ability Scores:
STR: 6 (-2) (8 base, -2 racial)
DEX: 18 (+4) (15 base, +1 level,+2 belt)
CON: 14 (+2) (12 base, +2 racial)
INT: 10 (0)
WIS: 14 (+2) (12 base. +2 hat)
CHA: 19 (+4) (14 base, +2 racial, +1 level)
HP: 77 HP (10d6+40). If you include empowered False Life, that's 95 hp.
Attack: +10 (+5 BAB,+4 DEX, +1 Size)
AC: 25 - Touch 16, Flatfooted 20 (+4 mage armor,+3 dex, +1 Amulet of Natural Armor, +2 Natural Armor (draconic), +2 Ring of Protection, +1 size, +2 force shield)
Saves: Fort: +8 Ref: +9 Will: +11
Gnome Racial trait pyromancer: +1 caster level with fire spells
Traits: Magical Lineage (scorching ray), +1 fort (whatever is called)
Feats: Empower spell(free), Intensify Spell, quicken spell, Spell focus evocation, Varisian tatoo, Spell specialization (scorching ray), initiate bloatmage
Relevant Spells: Mage Armor, Scorching Ray.
Magig stuff:
force ring 8,5k
+2 belt of dex 4k
+2 cloak of resistance 4k
+1 Amulet of Natural Armor 2k
+2 Cloak of Resistance 4k
+2 Ring of Protection 8k
Handy Haversack 2k
2 lesser metamagic rod of maximize 14k x2
1.500g in potions and mundane items.
Cast Intensified Empowered Maximized Scorching ray plus quickened maximized scorching ray, for 2+ hit. It's 4 rays with 2d6+32, or 39 average, *0,95 to hit, 37,05, x4= 148,2. Including crit chance, that's 7,04 extra, or 152,24. The quickened do 3*(32*0,95)+3*(32*0,05*0,95), and that's 127,68. Total DPR is 279,92
Just noticed: the build can be improved with Gift Adept trait instead of Focused mind.
You can remove Bloatmage initiate (so your Dex is not limited to 3, gaining 1 feat, +1 AC. 26 AC is quite decent for a SpellCaster.
You could use that feat to get Point Blank Shot, so you get +1 to hit and +1 to damage at 30' (which is basically the spell range, more or less). With 7 rays, that's about +7 (roughly) to damage, for 287 DPR aproximatelly
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in order to prove the usefulness of teamwork feats, I present you the team
: Fafrhd and the grey Mouser ;)
2x level 10 PCs, both are Ratfolks, basic racial traits (+2 Dex/Int -2 Str)
Swarming traits : can be in same square, considered flanking opponent
stats include racial, 2x stat lvl increase and 1x +4 stat booster item
ability score : str 15-2+1+4, Dex 14+2, Con 10, int 12+2, Wis 8, Cha 13+1
Skills : Bluff, acrobatics maxed out
traits : dirty fighter (+1 damage when flanking)
any that gives +1 Bluff
Class : Fighter (lore warden)
by level :
1- (Fighter) power attack, (Level 1) feint partner
2- (F) improved feint, (F-lore warden) combat expertise
3- (L) improved trip, +2 CMB via lore warden
4- (F) outflank
5- (L) Combat reflexes, weapon training +1
6- (F) greater feint
7- (L) greater trip, +4 CMB
8- (F) furious focus
9- (L) paired opportunist, +2 weapon training
10- (F) felling smash
note : the feats are not optimised if you play from level 1, but they are valid choices for each level
Equipment :
Flaming burst scythe +1 (any x4 crit weapon)
Circlet of persuation (3.000 GP, +3 Bluff)
ability score : Str 14-2, Dex 15+2+1+4, Con 13+1, Int 12+2, Wis 10, Cha 8
Skills : any
traits : dirty fighter (+1 damage when flanking)
any other trait
Class : rogue (swashbuckler)
by level :
1- sneak 1D6, two weapon fighting
2- talent (finesse rogue): weapon finesse; evasion
3- sneak 2D6, combat expertise
4- uncanny dodge, talent : (combat) combat reflexes
5- sneak 3D6, butterfly sting
6- talent : (ninja trick) pressure points : if sneak, 1 Str or Dex dam
7- sneak 4D6, outflank
8- talent : (combat) feint partners
9- sneak 5D6, improved feint partners
10- talent-advanced (feat) : paired opportunist
Equipment :
Menacing kukri +1, Keen Rapier +1
(leading number is the order of the attacks)
Fafhrd:
0 feint as move
2 AoO from 1/
3 ready power att to attack after Mouser
7 readied power att
9 AoO from 8/
10 free trip
12 AoO from 11/
14 AoO from 13/
Mouser:
1 AoO from feint
4 (full attack) Att 1
5 Att 2
6 Att 3
those 4 attacks give a cumulative chance of crit above 100%; which is granted to ally via butterfly sting
8 AoO from Crit1
11 AoO from trip
those 2 attacks still give a small chance of a 2nd critical hit, that would be granted to ally, for attack 12. If it's a crit, it triggers 13/ and 14/
13 AoO from Crit 2 (lower chances)
I have a nice XLS table for the calculations, but here's the results: (I considered that Dex bonus from opponent was +1, so if feinted ok, target AC is only 24)
- Sneak, flank, trip & feint avg DPR per PC : 175
- no flank : swarms - no melee attack anyway; or rogue/Barbarian. In this case, I consider Dex bonus is +2 (sneak still applicable due to feint)
avg DPR per PC : 172
- no trip; avg DPR per PC : 126
- no feint; avg DPR per PC : 121.5
- no sneak; avg DPR per PC : 109.5
- no feint, trip, sneak, flank; avg DPR per PC : 41
level 11 : another attack for Mouser (improved TWF): more critical to be passed to ally; more sneak
multiclassing Fafhrd : 4 level of swashbuckler rogue grants same feats and 2d6 sneak
ex both level 11 and multiclass : 200 dpr avg
the icing on the cake is that they can fight from same square, in a 5-ft wide tunnel.
they also have an alt. racial trait that counts them as tiny when squeezing; so they could easily "walk across" cracked walls and make fun ambush
So after crunching the numbers, if he has time to cast two spells on himself, Bane is a swift, and Judgements are immediate actions, and he has an ally flanking his damage is pretty decent.
Looking at his high odds of hitting and critting, I may make a v1.1 with TW fighting so his chance to hit isn't wasted against a 24AC opponent.
If I've done the maths wrong let me know, also you can find his stats on this aliases profile, they're also up for review.
His Attack routine with.
Power Attack,
Judgements Destruction and Justice,
Ally flanking,
Bane,
Unerring Weapon Spell,
Divine Power Spell.
103.1875
+1 to hit (1.425)
+1 to damage (3.4625)
26/26/21
32/32/27 to confirm crits
2d4/+20
+1d6 precision for every hit
2d6(Bane)
0.95(25+3.5)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 27.075+5.9375 = 33.0125 (first)
0.95(25+3.5)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 27.075+5.9375 = 33.0125 (second)
0.85(25+3.5)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 24.225+5.9375 = 30.1625 (third)
7(bane)
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His Attack routine without allies.
Power Attack,
Judgements Destruction and Justice,
Bane,
Unerring Weapon Spell,
Divine Power Spell.
86.0625
+1 to hit (3.75)
+1 to damage (3.1625)
22/22/17
28/28/23 to confirm crits
2d4/+20
2d6(Bane)
0.90(25)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 22.5+5.9375 = 28.4375 (first)
0.90(25)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 22.5+5.9375 = 28.4375 (second)
0.65(25)+0.25*1*0.95*25 = 16.25+5.9375 = 22.1875 (third)
7(bane)
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His Attack routine without any buffs.
28
+1 to hit (3)
+1 to damage (1.75)
15/15/10
2d4/+11
0.55(16)+0.25*1*0.55*16 = 8.8+2.2 = 11 (first)
0.55(16)+0.25*1*0.55*16 = 8.8+2.2 = 11 (second)
0.30(16)+0.25*1*0.30*16 = 4.8+1.2 = 6 (third)