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The OAV is heavily action oriented, the TV series has a broader scope, with even domestic comedy elements to spy/saboteur intrigue.
Thanks. Didn't even know there was a TV show. Only saw the OAV, thought it was too action packed and simplistic. Glad to know there's more to the TV show...now I have something to start watching over the weekend...
3. Call of Cthulu (or however its spelled) - I only played a few sessions and that was years ago, but what I recall about it wasn't fear or horror of what lurked around the corner, but fear and horror at how utterly incompetent PCs were at just about anything -- let alone solving mysteries and surviving sanity-cracking monsters.
Mmm... an average edu(13) character has 260
Well assume an Antiquarian(possibly the most lovecraftian of all the careers). Assuming a professor with an even split of skill points, a nice purist career.
Bargain 37
credit rating 47
Library use 57
other language 34
Persuade 47
Psychology 38
chemistry 34
physics 34
That is assuming he doesn't bum around after collage, and isn't a few years older. And it had not applies his personal skills either.
So on an average edu roll, you successed on about a third of rolls unmodified rolls. For context, an unmodified drive check would only be called for in a car chase, or dangerous driving conditions. They arn't exactly poor at what they do, even when they do not specialise. It is not uncommon to see several 60% skills per character at character creation.
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Second.
Not because it's bad (it's not), but because what is effectively a fairly minor rehash of an existing system was pretty widely hailed as the tabletop equivalent of the Second Coming.
+1. I like Pathfinder but imo it's nothing that special.
-Rifts because while I like the gonzo factor the system to me at least leaves something to be desired.
-Savage worlds. Heard so many good things about it yet after reading just had a "MEH" kind of feeling.
-All Flesh Must Be Eaten. i like zombie rpgs like the next guy yet would it kill Eden Stuidos to release a generic core rulebook. I'm getting sick and tired of sourcebooks that have to have a zombie element in them.
-Gurps Not a bad system yet for whatever reasson it does not click for me. YeT I can understand Hero System a similar system easier.
-AD&D 2E. So you cannot think of anything original to give humans to get people to play them so you penalize the non-humna races how fun. Maybe it's me yet I got a very "RAW and nothing but the RAW" vibe from the boks .
_rules light systems. They start out rules light if you suse the corebook yet more often than not are missing elements. So you buy sourcebook A, then B,C,D and by that time you get all the rules you want it no longer feels like a rules light rpg.
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Most companies that replace a product hype the replacement as being better than the previous iteration. YOu can't really blame WotC for doing what's standard proceedure in the business world. The big difference is only that, because of the OGL, there were also a thousand and one systems that were also based on d20, some of them very very close to 3.X D&D.
I don't really care for 4E personally, but the amount of villainization that some of you do towards WotC is rather extreme.
+1 Gamers need to stop deluding themselves. Paizo wants to make a good rpg while also making a profit. Last time I checked Paizo was not a non-profit organization.
Another one I must throw in is FATE. Its treated in someplaces as the great RPG ever to be written and those who do not like it or do not get it are pretty much unenlightened heathens.
Call me an unenlightened Heathen as its kinda MEH, and just does not click for me, it might be an ok system but it isn't the be all , end off of RPGdom people seem to think it is.
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Another one I must throw in is FATE. Its treated in someplaces as the great RPG ever to be written and those who do not like it or do not get it are pretty much unenlightened heathens.
Call me an unenlightened Heathen as its kinda MEH, and just does not click for me, it might be an ok system but it isn't the be all , end off of RPGdom people seem to think it is.
I don't hate Fate yet I heard so many good things about it that while it is a decent system not as great as the community says it si imo.
To me, the difference between underrated systems, correctly rated systems, and overrated systems isn't the lack or presence of hype, it is how much of the hype can be backed up by actual fact and support from the publisher and how the hype is used. Underrated systems don't have enough hype to get the attention of a large enough audience for them to grow beyond their niche. Correctly rated systems have enough hype to draw attention to the system, but don't rely on hype to sell the system, as the system itself is the main marketing tool. Overrated systems are ones where the publicity exceeds the capability and exposure to the actual system. This is primarily why I put PF as correctly rated, and 4E as overrated. Both are good systems, but because WOTC doesn't let the 4E sell itself as Paizo does for PF, expectations and promises are a lot harder to meet, and criticism is a lot harder to deflect.
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... I HAVE honestly seen Kung Fu Jesus take down Disco Hitler on a pirate ship. A solid gold flying pirate ship where the party never stopped...... Who knew that the best display of power in Exalted was no display at all?
Ok, I have no idea what you just said, but tell me more about the fight between Kung Fu Jesus and Disco Hitler!
Kung Fu Jesus was the PC. Named Big Baby Jesus, he was quite strongly patterned off ODB of the Wu-Tang Clan. The pirate ship was his, designed according to his specifications.
Disco Hitler was a Dragon-Blooded inquisitor wielding musical powers. Given the lack of stealth of the pirate ship, that's how he was located and boarded.
The scene was a big, power-laden battle between the two characters punches flying everywhere, stuff getting trashed, you name it. The battle was ended when Big Baby Jesus hit a monstrous haymaker against the Dragon, who went smashing through one of the solid-gold walls to land on deck. BBJ stepped forward and declared, "I am the LORD!!!"
Dungeon Bondage is a very over rated role playing game.
It is fun to watch a few minutes in a porno, but it is waay
to much work to any fun in real life.
WoD, due mostly to the "this is REAL roleplaying" sentiment that accompanied it. I played some and it was ok, but no more "real roleplaying" than any other RPG.
Someone is wearing my face...
*GASP* My long-lost twin! We meet at last! ;)
World of Darkness would get my vote by far. Worst combat system ever, tied in with a world where everything you do will turn out wrong and no matter what you do, you're boned, because everything you do has already been accounted for by Vampires millions of years old who are secretly controlling the whole world. So, the only thing ppl do is whine and cry about how much the world sucks. BORING! I could do that in real life!
That system actually encourages GM metagaming. No matter what you do, the GM can say "Your plan doesn't work because the BBEG knows everything you're thinking and everything you're doing at all times".
Rules aside, the worst thing about that game is the fact that it seems to be popular with every single androgynous, metrosexual emo d-bag in the world.
My second choice for most overrated game ever is all of the Palladium System games, with Rifts being the worst of the lot.
Another extremely overrated RPG is "Accountants & Attorneys". I tried it out and it was nearly impossible for me to level my Half-Elf Accountant because my Excel Spreadsheet skill was too low! I totally wanted to get the CPA Prestige Class for my Accountant, but it was too hard for me to meet all the requirements. Plus that annoying Halfling Attorney kept trying to sneak attack me with a stapler.
I switched characters tho, and now I'm a Dwarven Administrative Assistant. I'm doing ok, but it's a grind. I'm so tired of constantly making Fax Document and Send Email skill checks. I'm thinking of just having my character quit his job, buy some chainmail and a battleaxe, and go around killing monsters and taking their stuff...
If I'm allowed computer gaming:
D&D Online. Everquest. World of Warcraft.
No, I'm not a fan of MMORPG's, so they seem well overhyped to me. Other than that, I'd definitely say 3.0, 3.5, Pathfinder, and 4e.
I don't know enough about the release of 2e to say one way or the other (I was under 10 when it happened).
Outside of those, I'd definitely say World of Darkness 1.0 and 2.0. They burned a lot of bridges with those two settings, although WoD 1.0 paid it forward with the end of the line with the apocalypse books.
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Palladium/Rifts, for me. There's some OK lore in there, but the ego trip of the crunch and the balance that would make Gygax weep at the unfairness was a serious disappointment.
I find it rather amusing that apparently overly-complex mechanics are a trait associated with Gygax on a website run by a company that uses the d20 system.
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Palladium/Rifts, for me. There's some OK lore in there, but the ego trip of the crunch and the balance that would make Gygax weep at the unfairness was a serious disappointment.I find it rather amusing that apparently overly-complex mechanics are a trait associated with Gygax on a website run by a company that uses the d20 system.
Gygax had nothing to do with this d20...
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Gygax had nothing to do with this d20...Palladium/Rifts, for me. There's some OK lore in there, but the ego trip of the crunch and the balance that would make Gygax weep at the unfairness was a serious disappointment.I find it rather amusing that apparently overly-complex mechanics are a trait associated with Gygax on a website run by a company that uses the d20 system.
My point is that the d20 system has far more overly-complex mechanics than anything in 0E or 1E. If they really wanted to make their point, they should have used Monty Cook as their example.
My point is that the d20 system has far more overly-complex mechanics than anything in 0E or 1E.
I think that's pretty subjective. Personally, I wouldn't agree.
I'm not saying that d20 doesn't have some complex mechanics and even some overly complex mechanics (3.X grapple, I'm looking directly at you), but 0E/1E are rift with mechanics that are much more complex than they need to be.
Exhibit A: Weapon type vs. AC hit charts. Unless you think a system in which an attack roll can be good enough to hit the guy in leather armor, but not the same guy if he were naked is somehow elegant.
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Mutants and Masterminds. One of the people in the group wanted to run it, but wasn't willing to help with character gen. Character gen looked to take an entire session.....per character. When do we get to actually play the game?
Or you could just take the presented archtypes and just play after about 10 minutes of tweeking. If spending that long on character gen isn't your thing, M&M presents an option.
But M&M is very hyped, that I can agree with.
Also, those who said Pathfinder.
And WOD.
And Hackmaster.
And D&D.
Of course, (almost) any game you've ever heard of is "fan-hyped" to some degree.
Every edition of D&D
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KABAL - Knights and Berserkers and Ledgerdemain.
Circa 1985-ish?
You needed a scientific calculator to figure out your character's height and weight.
Hehehe I knew Ernie back in the day. Boy did he think he was God's gift to gaming. I can't tell you how many times I would tell him that yes I read his book and no I wasn't going to give up on Second Edition.