Natan Linggod 327 |
Chicken I can deal with. I have a million and one recipes for chicken.
Actually I was thinking of having an army on the move use it as an easy method of supplying the troops. It'd cost less to transport the materials needed for the spell and create meat as needed than it would to transport real animals.
KaeYoss |
An alchemical simulacrum, when killed, leaves behind inert flesh rather than a corpse.
Is that flesh edible? I'm imagining making simulacrum of a large, normally expensive, but relatively low HD creature, killing it and using the flesh as cheap food.
Doable?
Well, of course they're edible. They're made out of flesh. That stuff is edible.
I can't help but notice, though, that this will cost you 100gp per HD of the critter. That's a lot of dough. For 100 gil, you'll get 33 pigs. If we assume that such a pig weighs 150 pounds, we'll get about 2.5 short tons worth of animal out of our 100 eagles.
Let's compare things: A brachiosaurus has 18 HD and weighs 32 tons. 1800 gil worth of pigs would be 45 tons of critter.
And that's the good stuff, the bio stuff, the stuff literally not grown in a lab.
Gruuuu |
Drejk |
I can't help but notice, though, that this will cost you 100gp per HD of the critter. That's a lot of dough. For 100 gil, you'll get 33 pigs. If we assume that such a pig weighs 150 pounds, we'll get about 2.5 short tons worth of animal out of our 100 eagles.
Let's compare things: A brachiosaurus has 18 HD and weighs 32 tons. 1800 gil worth of pigs would be 45 tons of critter.
So we have to find to something with HD-to-weight ratio better than 2.5 short ton per HD.
And there is a catch that if 100 gp of reagents for the spell weight less than 2.5 short tons of pigs and food to sustain them for a time it is sensible (if costly) way of providing food for your army on extended campaign from logistic point of view.
Stone to flesh still would be cheaper way to feed your army if you can afford large number of 6th level sorcerer/wizard slots per day... Damn, I just got idea for 11th+ level Sorcerer with Profession [butcher] and Craft/Profession [cooking] skills that makes his living as royal meat provider extraordinary.
Abraham spalding |
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Stone to flesh still would be cheaper way to feed your army if you can afford large number of 6th level sorcerer/wizard slots per day... Damn, I just got idea for 11th+ level Sorcerer with Profession [butcher] and Craft/Profession [cooking] skills that makes his living as royal meat provider extraordinary.
If nothing else he'll be really good at squeezing blood from a stone...
KaeYoss |
KaeYoss wrote:Whatchoo got against labmeat?
And that's the good stuff, the bio stuff, the stuff literally not grown in a lab.
Maybe it's just my undying hatred of vegans, but I think meat tastes better when the critter suffered for it ;-P
So make sure that your labmeat is also available in suffering...
KaeYoss |
Stone to flesh still would be cheaper way to feed your army
I have a better idea: Soylent Green.
That or the create food and drink spell. 5th-level clerics can use that, and higher-level clerics could use it several time.
The spell feeds at least 15 people (or 5 horses) for a whole day.
And I'm sure the soldiers will be more than willing to give up part of their pay if that gold is used to research more efficient versions of that spell, if the only alternatives seem to be alchemically growing weird critters as cattle or transforming stone to flesh to eat.
Seriously. That labosaur eating thing is weird enough - at least it seems to be an actual animal at some point - but turning rocks into.... "flesh". What, exactly, is that stuff? Sounds like the description of some really, really cheap food product. The stuff where you hope never to find out what you just ate. The stuff you only ever consider if the alternative is starving (and even then it's not a foregone conclusion that you'll eat).
I tell you this: As soon as any nation uses either Alchemeat(TM) or Soylent Grey(TM) for their military's rations, I'm going to buy myself some pigs and chickens, hire a few field cooks and then stage what will be known as the most successful military coop!
It will be awesome. I'll just address the enemy's army, tell them that if they swear allegiance to me now, I'll feed them proper food, and they'll fall over themselves putting their rulers and nobles to the sword! Or maybe make them eat those rations until they die of sheer disgust.
In fact, I bet that's how Aroden died!
Set |
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Seriously. That labosaur eating thing is weird enough - at least it seems to be an actual animal at some point - but turning rocks into.... "flesh". What, exactly, is that stuff? Sounds like the description of some really, really cheap food product.
Can't be worse than sausage! Grind it up, and nobody needs to know the provenance...
Or maybe it's all conjured from the Elemental Plane of Meat.
Natan Linggod 327 |
I love how we can have a serious conversation about feeding an army with rocks...
Anyway, I know the Cleric spell is better but for the purposes of this army there are only alchemists available. It's a game world thing.
Oh and Bards as well.
Basically I need to find a way to feed an army that eats primarily meat without loading it down with a baggage train.
Slaunyeh |
I love how we can have a serious conversation about feeding an army with rocks...
Anyway, I know the Cleric spell is better but for the purposes of this army there are only alchemists available. It's a game world thing.
Oh and Bards as well.
Basically I need to find a way to feed an army that eats primarily meat without loading it down with a baggage train.
Uhm, loot the battlefield after a fight? If you lose, you have other things to worry about. If you win, there's a lot of, ahem, meat left behind.
Second option... reanimators! No need for a baggage train at all. ;)
Tilnar |
I love how we can have a serious conversation about feeding an army with rocks...
Anyway, I know the Cleric spell is better but for the purposes of this army there are only alchemists available. It's a game world thing.
Oh and Bards as well.
Basically I need to find a way to feed an army that eats primarily meat without loading it down with a baggage train.
Well, rather than icky alchemical meat, I would recommend a few of the following:
Use animals to run the seige engines, and eat those. (Mmm.. Elephant!)
Gentle Repose the corpses of things? (I know, it's Wizard and Cleric, but still...)
Do the old-style low-tech thing of putting a huge block of ice (or other alchemically cold thing) into a container (eg - Bag of Holding, cooler edition) -- or just splurge and make an item that does both already?
Tiny Coffee Golem |
KaeYoss wrote:Seriously. That labosaur eating thing is weird enough - at least it seems to be an actual animal at some point - but turning rocks into.... "flesh". What, exactly, is that stuff? Sounds like the description of some really, really cheap food product.Can't be worse than sausage! Grind it up, and nobody needs to know the provenance...
Or maybe it's all conjured from the Elemental Plane of Meat.
+1 for the elemental plane of meat
Natan Linggod 327 |
Thanks for all the ideas guys.
I can't really have the army eat the fallen soldiers, they aren't an evil army. Just very aggressive.
Eating the siege animals is possible but I don't know if that's practical.
I think I may have to go with the Bags of Cold Holding idea.
A pity really. I kind of liked the idea of the players being invited to parley over dinner and finding out later that they ate conjured kraken meat or something.
:P
Set |
Don't forget the new Restore Corpse spell + Purify Food and Drink cantrip.
Skeleton of cow + Restore Corpse = rotten meat + cantrip = Food + skeleton.. repeat repeat.
My first thought is, wow, that's horrific.
And then I remembered that Thor eats his chariot-pulling goats every night, and leaves the bones, so that they regenerate back to life the next morning, so it's a 2500 year old idea...