Zyren's luxurious campfire... this time with marshmallows...


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Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Now at a Gymnasium, so these kids are supposed to go to university once they finish school... :)


VC - Sydney, Australia

Ha!


Male Human Uber Nerd

Hey folks for Heart of Runes. Some of you MAY remember me (although its been nearly a year now) as the player of Gerlick/Emil.

My life has settled down GREATLY (after losing my job, being unemployeed for about 2 months, getting a new job, and then moving twice in the span of 6 months) and is back on a normal track, and Zyren has invited me to rejoin the group. Guess he liked my style haha. I am going to be making a new character, and wanted to see what you guys could use in the party.

Fighter? Alchemist? Sorcerer? Druid? You guys tell me what you think you need / want to see in the party and I will get to building and rolling.


Male Orc Expert 5

Someone to get us off this damn roof before we get salughtered. I don't even want to think about this things capabilities when we're on bad ground. If anyone had a dispel magic on her fly I would say me and harry grab her and toss her off the roof while filling it with arrows the whole way down. And then toss a gargoyle on top of her.


Male Human Uber Nerd

I don't think I am going to be introduced randomly on top of a roof haha :P

"Suddenly a WIZARD appears on a random roof! I WILL SAVE YOU!"


Male Orc Expert 5

Well it is a WIZARD.

Honestly though we have all the bases covered in terms of group so you should just be able to play what you like.


Male Human Uber Nerd

Alright so whatever my heart desires! :O

Lets get some dice rolled and see what I end up with stat wise.

Per Zyren it was Roll 4 dice, 7 times. Then drop the lowest die from each roll and the lowest overall roll. If the sum of the remaining rolls is 80+ you have a char

Thinking Monk, Fighter, or Alchemist. Those are classes I want to mess with.

I am gonna put all these rolls under a spoiler tag cause its getting rather silly.

ROLLS:

4d6 ⇒ (2, 2, 3, 2) = 9
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 1, 2) = 8
4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 1, 1) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 2, 5) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 6, 5) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 3, 4) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 4, 2) = 16

Dropping Lowest Die and Score gives me the following 6:

7
12
14
17
13
14

= 77

Ok so no good. Try again!

4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 5, 1) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 1, 1) = 8
4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 2, 4) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 6, 4) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 3, 2) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 4, 4, 5) = 19
4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 2, 2) = 12

This time I got (dropping lowest die and score)

13
12
12
10
15
10

Yea that totals out to 72. STILL not enough. 3rd time is the charm?

4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 1, 6) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 6, 2) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 1, 2) = 8
4d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 6, 1) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 6, 4) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 6) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (6, 3, 4, 5) = 18

This time I got (dropping lowest die and score)

11
12
10
12
9
15

Totals out to 69. I am getting lower every time! Roll set number 4!

4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 4, 3) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 3, 5) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 5, 4) = 20
4d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 3, 6) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 3, 4) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 5, 3) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 5, 3) = 16

This time I got (dropping lowest die and score)

12
13
16
12
10
13

Totals out to 76. Almost had it.


Roll set number 5!

4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 4, 3) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 3, 5) = 20
4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 2) = 6
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 6, 1) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 6, 2) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 6, 1) = 17
4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 3, 3) = 17

This time I got (dropping lowest die and score)

11
17
12
11
16
14

Totals out to 81!

This is the set I am gonna work with then!

Now to figure out what class....


Male Human Uber Nerd

Since I cannot edit my above post, here is what I am doing (so far)

Monk of the Four Winds (Human Monk, +2 Wis)

STR 14
DEX 17
CON 12
INT 11
WIS 18
CHA 11

No idea what level I start at or anything. Waiting for a PM from Zyren :)


VC - Sydney, Australia

Or at least get inside the building!


Male Human Uber Nerd
Shifty wrote:
Or at least get inside the building!

Is that to me or TarkXT there Shifty? :P

I am still waiting for a PM from Zyren telling me what level to start at, what gold, ect. Since I know you guys are like 5th level or somesuch.


VC - Sydney, Australia

Tark.

Harry wouldn't mind you staying outside as bait... :)


Male Human Uber Nerd
Shifty wrote:

Tark.

Harry wouldn't mind you staying outside as bait... :)

Harry most likely won't trust me the instant I show up whenever that is haha :P

Good luck with the Lamia though hehe.


VC - Sydney, Australia

He's concerned by the vanishing Half-Orc mystery. We started with three, now there's one. The other two vanished in mysterious circumstances and Karlan swears he knows nothing about it.

Like I mean Gerlick I can understand, he didn't make nice with 'La Familglia', and so he went on the missing list, but surely poor Kanyk was a made guy!?


Male Human Uber Nerd

I actually would consider bringing Gerlick back after a "eye opening experience" with a better attitude.

If that would be alright I can just advance him.

Up to Zyren actually.


Male Half Orc Rog5 Cav 3: HP:84/84, - AC: 21/T:14/FF:18 - Perception: +12(Dark Vision) F: +6/R: +8/W: +4 - CMB: +11 - CMD: 25, Speed: 30ft, Init: +2 (+4)

Ummm I think he was a bit of a challenege because of how hard you gimped him. I already have one gimpy healer driving me up the wall elsewhere, can I not have another? :p


Male Human Uber Nerd

Hahaha sure sticking with the Monk then! :P

Once I hear back from Zyren I will get to cracking. So I can be all nimble and whatnot haha


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)
Heavy Harry wrote:
Ummm I think he was a bit of a challenege because of how hard you gimped him. I already have one gimpy healer driving me up the wall elsewhere, can I not have another? :p

ROFL - I bet I could guess which one that would be.


Male Orc Expert 5

Gerlick would be tough to bring back. Karlan's something of a changed man since we broke into the glass factory. Not sure he'd really like the unreliable guy to pop back in. :P


Male Human Uber Nerd

Yea I am doing a Monk of the Four Winds instead :P\

Lets roll HP:

1d8 ⇒ 3
1d8 ⇒ 5
1d8 ⇒ 1
1d8 ⇒ 5

Per the DM, Rerolling 1's

1d8 ⇒ 1

Again with the reroll lol

1d8 ⇒ 5

So that gives me 5,5,5,3. Plus my 8 for first level. Plus +5 Con (+1 con bonus per level). Total HP = 31


Here is the monk! Does this meet your approval Shifty? TarkXT? :P


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)
Kessan wrote:
Here is the monk! Does this meet your approval Shifty? TarkXT? :P

Two questions, why Weapon Finesse and why 18 Dex but 14 Str?

If you flip these, you improve your CMB, do more damage and only lose a little AC and Reflex. Also, you gain an extra feat as you will not have to take Weapon Finesse.

Also, if you go the Dex monk, you will want to get the other Finesse feat for Combat Manuevers.

Finally, I think you are one feat short.

Typing on my phone, sorry for any mistakes.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Ah very good, someone with enough time to check details!


I just prefer Dex for Monks instead of STR. I might be a feat short though. I got 2 for human, 2 bonus, and one at 3rd.

Checking the SRD...

I am missing a feat! The level 5 one. Derp.

Gonna take the Agile Maneuvers then.


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Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Wow, I just noticed we are the pbp discussion thread with most posts! Even more than Tales of Agartha, hrhr! - ok, I admit that's a piece of meaningless information - but, still cool!

Scarab Sages

male 1/4 Elf Lorekeeper???

It may be meaningless information, but still, it is at least another post ;-)


M Human Fighter 5 AC: 20 (22 2-wield) Touch: 13 (15 2-wield) FF 17 HP 24/50 Init: +4
Double Dagger Attack Routine:
[dice=Attack]d20+10[/dice] [dice=Damage]d4+8[/dice] [dice=Attack]d20+10[/dice] [dice=Damage]d4+7[/dice]
feytharn wrote:
It may be meaningless information, but still, it is at least another post ;-)

\

So is this.


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)

I never make meaningless posts.


Hey guys, computer fried. Will be out of commission for a couple of days. Will catch up as soon as I have it back. Limited access till then.


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)

Hmmm, Bilbo computer go Bang Bang it sounds like.


Male Half Orc Rog5 Cav 3: HP:84/84, - AC: 21/T:14/FF:18 - Perception: +12(Dark Vision) F: +6/R: +8/W: +4 - CMB: +11 - CMD: 25, Speed: 30ft, Init: +2 (+4)

Starting to get my head around Cavaliers.

I keep looking at Harry going down the Cav path, but am stuck on working out how to make his AC not suck. Notionally if he went Cav next level he'd be a Lvl 6 with a lvl 1 AC (weaksauce), or go at 7 and have a 5th AC dropping a Feat into Boon Companion.

As far as Orders go it looks like Dragon is the only real option.

On the other hand I now worked out the Challenge ability ADDS the order mechanics... duh.

(Wait, I never got the hang of 3rd Ed Multiclass as it just makes me cry, regardless of starting your new class at L1, you dont get the L1 feat again do you? '5Rog+1Cav = L6 = no feat' yeah?)


Dungeon Master
Tirion wrote:
Hmmm, Bilbo computer go Bang Bang it sounds like.

At least it doesn't go Chitty Chitty and fly away!


Male Human Uber Nerd

Correct Harry. Your "Character level" is what you go by in terms of feats. Your class levels combined = your character level.

So 5 Rogue, plus 1 Cavalier = 6 Character Level.


Male Half Orc Rog5 Cav 3: HP:84/84, - AC: 21/T:14/FF:18 - Perception: +12(Dark Vision) F: +6/R: +8/W: +4 - CMB: +11 - CMD: 25, Speed: 30ft, Init: +2 (+4)

Yeah so would have to take a level of Cav, and park the AC at home for a level, then bring it out at 7.


Male Human Uber Nerd

Sounds about right. Multiclassing is a pain if you didn't start off planning it from the outset.


Male Half Orc Rog5 Cav 3: HP:84/84, - AC: 21/T:14/FF:18 - Perception: +12(Dark Vision) F: +6/R: +8/W: +4 - CMB: +11 - CMD: 25, Speed: 30ft, Init: +2 (+4)

I grow my characters 100% organic - no preplanning - just shape them to their experience as they grow. On the other hand, Harry would make a killer Paladin with his second highest stat being Cha, I just can't see him turning over the LG leaf. Way too hot tempered.


Male Human Uber Nerd

Just because Harry has a hot temper does not mean he couldn't become a paladin. He just has to find the right god. Cayden Cailen maybe? Seems like it would be a perfect fit to me :-)


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)

Cayden is CG. Sarenrae might be better for a fiery temper. Or just be a avatar for law and good, with a Harry twist.

I don't know much about cavaliers, will have to read more about them.


By RAW - Cayden doesn't have Paladins. Only gods with either LG, LN or NG do.

For a wrathful Paladin deity I'd go to:
Ragathiel, leader of legions of heroes, one of the generals of Heaven and son of the archdevil Dispater.

or

Angradd (The Forge-Fire): The counterpart to his older brother Torag’s defensive perspective, Angradd is the god of aggressive tactics and warfare. He and Magrim watch over battles, dividing the dwarven spirits between them according to how brave they were in combat.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Harry a paladin? Muahaha


Male Orc Expert 5

Nothing stops you from going ORder of The Lion either depending on your dedication to sandpoint.

I think the only issue right now is that being a 1st level cavalier his abilities are going to suck in that regard for a couple of levels. :/

As to your companion I think you might just have ot suck up the cruddy AC for a level before you take boon companion. Have you decided on your tactician feat yet? I think you should be able to qualify for Outflank.


Male Half Orc Rog5 Cav 3: HP:84/84, - AC: 21/T:14/FF:18 - Perception: +12(Dark Vision) F: +6/R: +8/W: +4 - CMB: +11 - CMD: 25, Speed: 30ft, Init: +2 (+4)

No more Caydenites... I don't think I could stand it :p

I've officially banned Cayden Clerics from my home games, along with Dwarves and Halflings. Yes, I admit, some days I am happy to let my prejudices run wild and free.

Harry is probably a bit too godless to become a Paladin; no matter how bright we shine a Copper it still wont be a Gold piece.

Reckon Cav with gimpy pet (until 7), the teamwork feat is either Outflank or Precise Strike.


Female Aasimar Cleric 10 hp 81/83; AC 22, FF 19, T 14; Channel Energy (5d6) [8/10]; Touch of Good [8/9];Agile Feet [9/9];Holy Lance [1/1] Fort: +12, Reflex +10, Will +17; Init +3, Diplomacy +19, Perception +17

What is your issue with Caydenites? Is Celestra too much Cailean for you?


VC - Sydney, Australia

Too many simply played as alcoholic numpties who carry on as though they have about a 6 wisdom and with all the horrible cliches we used to have to just grind through with Dwarves about ale and mead.

Its like there's only one way to play them.

Drives me up the wall.

Its like the deity for 12 year olds who have just discovered beer.

ZOMG.

:)


Male Orc Expert 5

I'll take them over your classic Calistria worshipers. Nothing like a god that advocates petty vengeance for perceived slights, sleeping around, generally acting like an evil teenage girl.


VC - Sydney, Australia

Yeah I haven't actually SEEN anyone play Calistria yet, but reckon it will be some kind of adventure in ridonkulous cheeze.


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)

I have a Calistrian priestess, and unlike the annoying sex maniacs most others play which make then SOOO annoying, she is pure revenge and retribution.

Just take another attribute of the god and focus on that.


Male Elven Magus (Spell Dancer) 11

Waves - probably one of the few male Calistrans on the board, and as with Tirion I've looked more at the revenging aspect.

I usually play off the minor gods though - Milani, Sinashakti, etc - as I find them easier to mould... I have got an ugly half-orc devotee of Shelyn as well though.


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)

Shifty - Kurgess is another possibility if you want Paladin. He is competition, bravery and sport - sounds like Harry.

The only thing with cavalier is how much riding are we going to have.


Male Orc Expert 5

None because Harry is going the Hound Master Archetype. You know with the dog he already has? Sounds more like him.


VC - Sydney, Australia

I have yet to see a campaign that actually makes having a horse meaningful - the horse always has to be stabled.

Odd and irksome really!

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