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Transformers: Dark of the Moon ... are you as excited / afraid as I am? [SPOILERS]


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Grand Lodge

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I didn't watch the second film until I was forced to due to it being on in the office during my shift. I won't go see the third either.

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I saw it friday and I think it is better than the second one but that is not saying much.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

If anyone is still considering going to see Transformers 3, I offer this "faq/review" (spoilers, NSFW language).

Congratulations Bay, you remain securely at the top spot of my Nerd Hate list {mixes up a cocktail of lemony-lime Spite with Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx}

Thank you I think for saving me brain cells with that link.

Ah well, at least I have Transfomers prime.

(Though now I want to see miko dress as a ninja for some reason.)


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

If anyone is still considering going to see Transformers 3, I offer this "faq/review" (spoilers, NSFW language).

Congratulations Bay, you remain securely at the top spot of my Nerd Hate list {mixes up a cocktail of lemony-lime Spite with Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx}

Yes thank you. I saved 10 dollars, 2 hours and 30 minutes (7 spent on the FAQ), and my head of lovely full hair. Now I can enjoy the paradoxical illogic headache of Dark of the Moon without actually paying Bay for this pain. I really truly hope this flops horribly just to put an end to all this.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

I saw it (morning show, so $6 per ticket for my 13-year-old and I) and I thought it was fine. I watched Transformers years ago (mostly the first season, maybe a little bit after, and I own the animated movie, but I never watched any of the later series like Beast Wars), but I'm in no way a hardcore Transformers nut, so I'd be oblivious to subtler infractions against canon.

Spoiler:

It had hotties and explosions. It did have two dumb mascot mini-transformers (who were mercifully killed - oh no, a SPOILER! - unless they survived and I missed it), but not quite as obnoxious (IMO) as the ones in movie #2.

Leonard Nimoy was a pleasant surprise - I hadn't known he was in the movie.

I thought they (mostly) dialed down the attempted comic relief. The parents had a couple of amusing and brief scenes. There was no dopey best friend (though there was the wacko boss who had a couple of scenes).

In general, the movie gets a two-star rating - enjoyable popcorn movie that I don't really need to see again. However, one thing I positively liked was that, from an in-world perspective, over the course of time passing from movie #1 to #2 to #3, the humans actually LEARNED about fighting transformers. Sure, they were still a pain to defeat (and yes, they did borrow some transformer-tech gizmos to do some of the stuff), but humans had come up with devices and tactics that could detect transformers and injure them enough that troops could actually DO SOMETHING against the transformers they fought, instead of it being an auto-TPK. To me, that was a sensible evolution that reflected their continued experience working with (and against) transformers, rather than them being just as helpless 3 movies in as they were in the first attack way back when.

My enjoyment may also be enhanced by the fact that the movie was interrupted by a fire alarm, and then 2 more interruptions while they attempted to "rewind" (digitally speaking) the movie back to where it was before the fire alarm... not that this in itself contributed to my enjoyment, but it did net me 2 free passes to a future movie, which is good news in my book. :)

Grand Lodge

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Guys, quoting the spoilers while you point out they need spoiler tags is counterintuitive. And there is a flag option for just such an occasion so the mods can come add tags as necessary.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

If anyone is still considering going to see Transformers 3, I offer this "faq/review" (spoilers, NSFW language).

Congratulations Bay, you remain securely at the top spot of my Nerd Hate list {mixes up a cocktail of lemony-lime Spite with Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx}

Thank you I think for saving me brain cells with that link.

Ah well, at least I have Transfomers prime.

(Though now I want to see miko dress as a ninja for some reason.)

You do realize that TR's review of T3 is about as fair as my review of anything even remotely Whedon related?

sips Haterade(tm) Black

I have no idea what this "Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx" is, but I sure will be consulting my lawyers on this.

Dark Archive

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Dragon78 wrote:
I saw it friday and I think it is better than the second one but that is not saying much.

This

I didn't want to gouge my eyes out like I did after the second one so it was a improvement. But I still feel like a wasted 2 and 1/2 hours of my life.

The Exchange

T3 was the best of the bunch. That being said, the cheese was painful to behold.


Crimson Jester wrote:
T3 was the best of the bunch. That being said, the cheese was painful to behold.

Really? I really really liked the first one, I'm truly intrigued by the 3rd now.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
T3 was the best of the bunch. That being said, the cheese was painful to behold.
Really? I really really liked the first one, I'm truly intrigued by the 3rd now.

I thought the first one was pretty good. I was say honestly the 3rd one falls about half way between the first and second one in quality.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
T3 was the best of the bunch. That being said, the cheese was painful to behold.
Really? I really really liked the first one, I'm truly intrigued by the 3rd now.
I thought the first one was pretty good. I was say honestly the 3rd one falls about half way between the first and second one in quality.

Well, I'm sold. I'll watch it before I go to Otakon.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
T3 was the best of the bunch. That being said, the cheese was painful to behold.
Really? I really really liked the first one, I'm truly intrigued by the 3rd now.

Really. I prefer this movie to the first. I would however cut out about 4 scenes and my enjoyment would go up to acceptable. Thankfully this one ends in such a way I am sure the likelihood of there being a 4th movie is minuscule.


Freehold DM wrote:
You do realize that TR's review of T3 is about as fair as my review of anything even remotely Whedon related?

True. But I think whatever your opinion of Whedon, you probably agree he doesn't promote Stupidity. M. Bay Shyasplosion does.

Bay is to Stupid what the Black Death is to contagious disease! Medical studies indicate his movies have collectively lowered the average filmwatcher's IQ by 23 points and created a 337% rise in ADHD!!! He kicks puppies and 'splodes Mom's apple pie just for laughs!!!!!!111!1 {orderlies arrive and administer Amby's shot} Noooooooo! Can't you see? He's in... in your head... killing your brainnnns... <snores>

Freehold DM wrote:

sips Haterade(tm) Black

I have no idea what this "Freehold's Hateraid MaxXx" is, but I sure will be consulting my lawyers on this.

Oops, it must be a cheap import knockoff.

Sovereign Court

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I watched the film and quite liked it. It has a decidedly darker and grittier feel to it and the story is better. And the whole plot finaly comes to focus. Humans don't play that big a role in the film as in the previous ones. Action is stunningly beautiful and transformers are awesome.

The only thing i have a problem with is that blond bimbo with a fake british accent. Whoever chose her should drown him/herself in the toilet immediately.

I give the film 8 out of 10

Spoiler:

There are sceens where desepticons kill humans and turn them either into small pieces or bones. Freaky but cool.

Also a lot of transformers die

The Exchange

Give the Model her due, she has the best line in the film.

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Crimson Jester wrote:
Give the Model her due, she has the best line in the film.

Which one?

I mean they could have at least chosen a pretty girl this time, not a lip job.

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Hama wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Give the Model her due, she has the best line in the film.

Which one?

I mean they could have at least chosen a pretty girl this time, not a lip job.

She had nice legs.

Spoiler:

to Megatron: "You'll just end up his b*%%!."


She is actually british, so maybe her accent isn't so much fake as it is not an Americanized version of a british accent. LOL.

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She is? Could have fooled me. For moments i thought that she was Australian. Maybe it's just that all English people i know are older then 40 and talk with that beautiful accent most of the younger generation does not have.

@Jester, i agree a wonderful body. But I'd prefer a real actress.

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Hama wrote:

She is? Could have fooled me. For moments i thought that she was Australian. Maybe it's just that all English people i know are older then 40 and talk with that beautiful accent most of the younger generation does not have.

@Jester, i agree a wonderful body. But I'd prefer a real actress.

Hollywood still employs those?


Crimson Jester wrote:
Hama wrote:

She is? Could have fooled me. For moments i thought that she was Australian. Maybe it's just that all English people i know are older then 40 and talk with that beautiful accent most of the younger generation does not have.

@Jester, i agree a wonderful body. But I'd prefer a real actress.

Hollywood still employs those?

Of course. You know, women like Megan Fo... oh yeah. LOL

The Exchange

Well I guess there are a few...
Jewel Staite
Gina Torres
Morena Baccarin
Summer Glau
and
Christina Hendricks

But I don't see most of them in many projects right now.


If it's better than the following movies:

PINEAPPLE EXPRESS
PLAINS, TRAINS, AND AUTOMOBILES
RAISING ARIZONA
and the one with Morton Downey and Zach Galifinakis traveling so that Downey can be at the birth of his kid...

Then it is a great movie in my book. The above four movies resulted in horrible mental trauma due to the shear audacity that someone thought they were even remotely humorous WITHOUT serious mood altering narcotics, brain damage, or lack of grey matter. Sadly, I've seen all four twice, once sober and once so drunk I can't remember how I got to bed. They sucked the first time, they sucked even more the second time.

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I liked PLAINS, TRAINS, AND AUTOMOBILES

Shadow Lodge

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Hey leave Raising Arizona out of this! :))

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Added a spoiler tag and removed the quoted posts.

Sovereign Court Star Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014

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Hey shut your mouth about pineapple.......ah just kidding it sucked

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Liz Courts wrote:
Added a spoiler tag and removed the quoted posts.

Thanks, and apologies to all for spoilerification.

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Say what you will about "Pineapple express" but leave "Raising arizona" and "Plains trains and automobiles" out of this.

There are lot of great actresses out there, there just not allowed on any of Michael Bay's movies.


Dammit, sorry Liz. I keep starting/getting involved in threads you have to edit. *deep bow* I'm sorry.

Silver Crusade

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You know that there are like 50 British accents right?

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FallofCamelot wrote:
You know that there are like 50 British accents right?

"Why does he sound like he's from the North?"

"Lots of worlds have a North"
(can't find the exact quote, sorry)

I don't know about Welsh accents as a whole, but I can listen to Eve Myles all day ;-)


pres man wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Hama wrote:

She is? Could have fooled me. For moments i thought that she was Australian. Maybe it's just that all English people i know are older then 40 and talk with that beautiful accent most of the younger generation does not have.

@Jester, i agree a wonderful body. But I'd prefer a real actress.

Hollywood still employs those?
Of course. You know, women like Megan Fo... oh yeah. LOL

A gorgeous woman, but she isn't the best actress I've seen.


Watched it under a "get two movie" deal and I wanted to see Super 8. Guess what movie Super 8 was grouped with?

Also, this movie had maybe the most laughably awful endings I've seen.


Matthew Morris wrote:
FallofCamelot wrote:
You know that there are like 50 British accents right?

"Why does he sound like he's from the North?"

"Lots of worlds have a North"
(can't find the exact quote, sorry)

I don't know about Welsh accents as a whole, but I can listen to Eve Myles all day ;-)

From thumbwars?

"Why do we speak with British accents when we're all from outer space, and there's no Britain?"


Had some wierd moments but was an enjoyable popcorn movie that was made better by Mr. Spock. The fact that the matinee was $3.50 was icing.

As to the british girl, she wasn't terrible considering she's a model not an actress, and her accent, as has been mentioned, is one of a variety of british accents. I mean I'm from southern Ohio, I'm sure they'd hear my crappy Appalachian accent and think "My word that hillbilly sounds nothing like americans in the movies." :P


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I saw it and enjoyed it, but I've spent the last day or so just wondering if maybe it wasn't that good, just way better than part 2. Nothing more to add except that I don't think the 3D was worth it. None of the 3D sequences were super amazing, so if you can see it in 2D for a lot cheaper, do it.

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ghettowedge wrote:
I saw it and enjoyed it, but I've spent the last day or so just wondering if maybe it wasn't that good, just way better than part 2. Nothing more to add except that I don't think the 3D was worth it. None of the 3D sequences were super amazing, so if you can see it in 2D for a lot cheaper, do it.

I disagree. They don't need to be super amazing. They just have to have me go: Whoa, that rock is closer to me then that other rock that is behind it...holy s***t! There is DEPTH AND PERSPECTIVE here. Do not expect avatar-level 3d....


I saw the 2-D version, I don't tend to see 3-D versions of movies since they offer little in my opinion and are just used mostly to drive up the prices thus making films look more successful than they otherwise would be.[/rant]

My thoughts on the film.

Spoiler:
More than even the first movie, the "main character" is really worthless. They even make a point of this in the movie when he is told he is just a delivery boy, which he is.

As for the model/actress, she's there for eye candy. She is no worse than Megan. Of course if you removed Shia's part, they wouldn't need her.

This movie should have just involved the military and the big guys, really these should be G.I.Joe/Transformer crossovers IMO with these guys making better Joes than that other movie.

I liked seeing Shock Wave, and they did a good job making it look like him. They made Sentinel Prime look like Alpha Trion, which was a bit disappointing. Of course I didn't catch the mix up until after (I couldn't remember the Sentinel Prime but did remember what Alpha Trion looked like).

I think that the fact that the decepticons couldn't repair themselves was a bit silly. Frankly they have pretty much screwed up the three big bad guys (Megatron, Starscream, and Sound Wave) since the start.

The plan by the bad guys was pretty dumb as well, you are going to beam a planet into close orbit? Really? I'm not a astro-physicist or anything but I'm pretty sure that would destroy both planets. I kept waiting for the planet to start forming and then the moon run right into it. "Wait, you didn't account for the moon? You mean the thing you have been on for the last 50 years, and you forgot all about it? Really? What are you, some kind of reject-bot? Maybe we should send you to the go-bots."

I do agree that this is probably the last one without some kind of major restart. They pretty much killed 90% of the named transformers that they have introduced so far. It could pick up, they'd need new bad guys and the loss of Ironhide isn't that great off a loss, I mean he died in the animated movie as well.

I give the film a 3 (average) out of 5. If you want to go to the movies and nothing else catches your interest, it is fine for a bit of a time wasting special effects show. Don't think about too deep of detail, but then again this is based on a cartoon meant to sell toys.


Basically the movie ranges from alright to kinda cool when robots are blowing each other up, and mind numbingly awful when it's just FLESHY HUMAN DRAMA.

Who the hell goes to TRANSFORMERS to see Shia LaBouf? Nobody. That is why these three movies are bad movies. Too much Shia, not enough actual transformers.

Silver Crusade

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Who goes to any movie to watch Shia Lebouef? The guy just makes me want to punch something.

Sovereign Court

He may have a stupid face, but he is a pretty decent actor when all is considered. And his character has evolved greatly during the three films..

Silver Crusade

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Really? Shia Lebouef is a good actor?

Edward Norton is a good actor, Mark Strong is a good actor, Robert Downey Junior is a good actor.

Shia Lebouef is not a good actor. He has never been in a good movie. Let's look at his resume:

Constantine: "dreary, to say the least."
Eagle Eye: "two hours of clamorous, mind-numbing nonsense."
Transformers: "[It will] buzz its youthful demographic [...] but leave the rest of us wondering if Hollywood could possibly aim lower"
Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen: "...a horrible experience of unbearable length."
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: "full of promise, with minuscule returns."
Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon: "a visually ugly film with an incoherent plot, wooden characters and insane dialog. It provided me with one of the more unpleasant experiences I've had at the movies."

Hardly glowing references. Now you may say that some of this stuff is not Lebouef's fault and I would agree to some extent that is true. However, the fact is that good actors make good movies and Leboeuf has never made a good movie. The closest he came was Disturbia and whilst that was competant it is stretching things to call it a good movie. Besides comparing Leboeuf to Jimmy Stewart is just laughable.

Even Vin Deisel has been in two great (not good, great) movies (Pitch Black and Saving Private Ryan) and I wouldn't class him as a good actor. However he has more claim to that title than Lebouef has.

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FallofCamelot wrote:

Really? Shia Lebouef is a good actor?

Edward Norton is a good actor, Mark Strong is a good actor, Robert Downey Junior is a good actor.

Shia Lebouef is not a good actor. He has never been in a good movie. Let's look at his resume:

Constantine: "dreary, to say the least."
Eagle Eye: "two hours of clamorous, mind-numbing nonsense."
Transformers: "[It will] buzz its youthful demographic [...] but leave the rest of us wondering if Hollywood could possibly aim lower"
Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen: "...a horrible experience of unbearable length."
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: "full of promise, with minuscule returns."
Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon: "a visually ugly film with an incoherent plot, wooden characters and insane dialog. It provided me with one of the more unpleasant experiences I've had at the movies."

Hardly glowing references. Now you may say that some of this stuff is not Lebouef's fault and I would agree to some extent that is true. However, the fact is that good actors make good movies and Leboeuf has never made a good movie. The closest he came was Disturbia and whilst that was competant it is stretching things to call it a good movie. Besides comparing Leboeuf to Jimmy Stewart is just laughable.

Even Vin Deisel has been in two great (not good, great) movies (Pitch Black and Saving Private Ryan) and I wouldn't class him as a good actor. However he has more claim to that title than Lebouef has.

You forgot I Robot on that list.

But actually a friend and I was talking about this the other day. Young talented actors under the age of 35. We could think of a wide number of women, but really struggled to name any men. What prompted this discussion was a internet listing of the top 10 young actors and actresses today and Shia was on that list. Looking at the list I think he was better than some of the others on it.

Silver Crusade

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Actually I sort of liked I Robot... :)

Doesn't James MacAvoy make it onto that list? He's only 32.

Sovereign Court

Did i say good? No, i said pretty decent. He can act.

Also, good actors make bad movies all the time. Quality of the movie has nothing to do with quality of acting of a certain actor.

Look at Jeremy irons and D&D and Eragon....


Hey, I loved Eagle Eye, although I didn't think he was good in it. I thought he was surprisingly good in Disturbia.

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