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Female Human Cleric/4
Bloodless wrote:
I think we suffered pretty hard being so heavily constrained where they could bring greater numbers to bear on us than we coiuld them, and the lack of healing grunt really took its toll. I would have thought we had more healz under the hood than what we did, but there you have it! :p

Had the channels done more than stabilize at any given time, we might have been okay. When I roll 1s for healing at any point, it's not going to go well.

Still have a potion of cure mod I haven't handed out.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

For my group:

I put the treasure onto my profile. I figure once Tark tells us what can be returned, and what I identified of the magical things, we can see about divvying items up.


TarkXT wrote:


I'm contemplating leveling the nobles group as well and dumping Tal in there in Tok's place to help speed them through as they seem to be having the hardest time right now and considering the Rebels group nearly got trounced by the last battle it's a worthy concern.

I'm with sending in Tal now as well, no reason to make him wait as we are in the dungeon crawly phase atm. :) We did leave the door open from the Rot Grub lair.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Inquisitor of Milani (Preacher archetype) 4

I've no issues with Tal joining us straight away.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

Remind me how we're doing HP for the new level?


m Human Ftr 9 HP:110/110 AC*:33,23,30 Saves:10/8*/9* CMB: +19 CMD: 38 Init: +3 Perc: +14 Link to the spreadsheet

Do not feel the need to rush to get me involved Tark and nobles. i am still here reading and following your progress. I just don't want to interupt the flow and story you have going right now by Tark just 'throwing me in.' Don't get me wrong, I am ready and waiting to start adventuring with you all and if there is a clean way for me to enter I am all for it.

Heck I could even be captured and chained up when you enter the next room. All my possessions locked in a nearby trunk.

I would have Tal be at level 2. It is an easy conversion, -12hp, -1 to hit, -3 will.

Dark Archive

Male Chelaxian Wizard (Banishment) 1 | HP 8/8 | F+1 R+1 W+4 | AC 11 ff10 t11 | CMB -1, CMD 10 | Per +5 | Init +1

Yes, let's get Tal in here!


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)

Yeah we had some poor luck on rolls... had tehy rolled the ones we did, the fight would have been over a lot sooner :p

Think we are rolling em Calla...?


Male Orc Expert 5
Bloodless wrote:

Yeah we had some poor luck on rolls... had tehy rolled the ones we did, the fight would have been over a lot sooner :p

Think we are rolling em Calla...?

And a lot more boring if you ask me. Hardly a "climactic battle" when you and Bejis one shot everything.


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)

Well think I managed to get cockblocked most rounds, and then got pwned... don't think I'm a fan of tunnel fights. Anyhow, HP, its roll or allocation? Brain exploded.


Male Human Barbarian 5
TarkXT wrote:
And a lot more boring if you ask me. Hardly a "climactic battle" when you and Bejis one shot everything.

That's what minions are for, to be one shot killed while keeping the big untouchable.

That being said, that last battle seemed like we rolled less than average, where before we had a good luck streak.

Edit: We rolled last time, I think. That said... 1d12 ⇒ 9


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)

I dunno, I was rolling like a champ for the most, it was just..well...either dudes in the way and Criss Angel pulling off a lot of Mindfreak luck.

Better get looking at L3. A little rogue or stay ranger? We lack Roguishness... will have a look at both.

Assuming stay Rng 1d10 ⇒ 8

[edit]was looking at the ranger archtypes, think I will just stay rngr.


Male Human Barbarian 5

I get Trapsense at level 3, for a slightly better reflex save. We are only hurting there for the lack of Trap Finding.


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)
Bejis Krupt wrote:
I get Trapsense at level 3, for a slightly better reflex save. We are only hurting there for the lack of Trap Finding.

Oh well that solves it then :)

Not a lot of traps in most games


Male Orc Expert 5

I believe we've been rolling for it so go with that.


Female Human Cleric/4

1d8 ⇒ 1

hahahaha. there's my cleric die.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4

Survey says....1d8 ⇒ 8

W00T!


Female Human Cleric/4
TarkXT wrote:

So...how will you guys go about drumming up support to rebuild the temple?

Off the top of my head, I don't believe we'll be relying on Asmodia's die rolls, that's for darn sure.

Give me a day or two to think on some things and consult the faiths of purity book for references, and I'll let you know.


Male Orc Expert 5

Alrighty. Wish I had that bookd. :*(

Tal you can go ahead and level down adn hop in we'll just put you in the same spot as Tok.


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)
TarkXT wrote:
So...how will you guys go about drumming up support to rebuild the temple?

Well Bloodless couldn't give two hoots about fixing the temples other than thats what some people he has a vague friendship with are doing (and vague is about as good as it gets in Westcrown he has found) and only between paying jobs... and only because it is more productive than boozing and whoring between hunts.

His main focus is on hunting, bounty or otherwise.


Male Orc Expert 5
Bloodless wrote:
TarkXT wrote:
So...how will you guys go about drumming up support to rebuild the temple?

Well Bloodless couldn't give two hoots about fixing the temples other than thats what some people he has a vague friendship with are doing (and vague is about as good as it gets in Westcrown he has found) and only between paying jobs... and only because it is more productive than boozing and whoring between hunts.

His main focus is on hunting, bounty or otherwise.

At least they're not chasing you about with torches or pitchforks or turning you in as a traitor to House Thrune for a small purse of coins. :)


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)
TarkXT wrote:


At least they're not chasing you about with torches or pitchforks or turning you in as a traitor to House Thrune for a small purse of coins. :)

Yeah, but see Bloodless is now wise that this is the sort of things that happens to Tieflings, so is wondering how to goabaout getting a torch and pitchfork and getting a few of those bags of coins for himself...

No love for Tieflings from him.

Favoured enemy, in his now favoured terrain.


Female Human Cleric/4
Bloodless wrote:


Well Bloodless couldn't give two hoots about fixing the temples other than thats what some people he has a vague friendship with are doing (and vague is about as good as it gets in Westcrown he has found) and only between paying jobs... and only because it is more productive than boozing and whoring between hunts.

Hey, Asmodia represents all three of those comments. Being a bleeding heart, drunken whore. She supplements her education with crudely drawn pornography and lesbian love letters. *laughs*

So, essentially this AP pretty much assumes that you're only a party for the sake of convenience? This makes me smile.


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)
Asmodia Crispin wrote:


So, essentially this AP pretty much assumes that you're only a party for the sake of convenience? This makes me smile.

I think the AP sort of does suggest that.

That the party leads individual lives and comes together to achieve 'X'.


Female Human Cleric/4

That's great, because Asmodia and Calla in the same room together for anything other than a common cause is likely to end in a dead cleric.

I looked at my HP and there's no way Asmodia can have just 13 hp at level 3 if I was allowed to take max at first level. I don't think I rolled HP for level 2.

1d8 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4 What in the h*ll...


Male Orc Expert 5
Asmodia Crispin wrote:


So, essentially this AP pretty much assumes that you're only a party for the sake of convenience? This makes me smile.

All AP's are like that I've found. They don't assume you already know each other.

In Carrion Crown the only bind is that you all went to the same funeral and are mentioned in a will that keeps you in one spot for a month.

Kingmaker has all of you chartered to explore a vast area with hostile creatures. All four of you.

RotRL makes you part of a lrge crowd during a riot you "just happen" to be working together.

Any sense of togetherness or friendship is left to the PC's to hash out either before or during game.


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)

Asmodia your min HP at L1 should have been 10 or 11 if you went favoured class/hp.

Think Tark might need to throw you a bone, maybe 50%/level, otherwise you'll be deadybones a bit too fast!

Tark yeah I have noticed the AP's leave it to the party to sort out their own pre-existing friendships... I have no problem with that, but reckon if I were to ever run one as a F2F campaign I would have a prelude to teh campaign where possible. A 'get to know you session'.


Female Human Cleric/4

Nah, man, I can dig it. Support clerics should fall down if they're sneezed on. That's why Asmodia summons. Fifth level will be craft arms and armor, I think, if we get all this downtime to sit around doin' not much of anything.

Although, this terminal case of cleric dice is really getting annoying.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4

OK, All..based on Calla's List and Tark's response:

491gp
5sp
1400gp in gems/Jewelry

1891 gp total, 378gp 3sp each in immediate cash.

From Palaveen:
* A magical morning star (Anyone want this?)
--If no one has Identify, LeVash will try to use Detect Magic to determine specific properties - Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (18) + 5 = 23

* A magical breastplate (Bejis wants this...anyone else? Otherwise I vote he takes it)
--If no one has Identify, LeVash will try to use Detect Magic to determine specific properties - Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21

an iron unholy symbol of Asmodeus (I'd say melt it down)

* A magical potion --If no one has Identify, LeVash will try to use Detect Magic to identify this - Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (19) + 5 = 24
* A wand --blah, blah, blah - Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (1) + 5 = 6

On the Mummys(2):
* 2 potions --blah, blah, blah - Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (10) + 5 = 15 and Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (14) + 5 = 19
2 tanglefoot bag
2 daggers

Other Gear - (I suggest we chack with the rest of the League as to whether they can use this equipment...if so, we give it. If not, it is an additional 112gp - 22gp 4sp each)
4 suits Leather armor
4 light crossbows
4 short swords
48bolts


Male Orc Expert 5

All the magic items have already been identified by Calla. She neglected to update the list. See the gameplay thread I believe I put them in a spoiler to her.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

Sorry, been busy with Yom Kippur -- should've let you all know. Will try to get everything updated today, plus a post in the game thread.

Morning star and breastplate were both +1. (Calla will take the morningstar if no one else wants it, but she'd prefer to use a sword.)

Other magic items were:
Potion of Disguise Self (Bloodless, for when he needs to blend in?)
2 Potions of Cure Moderate wounds.
Wand of Cure Light wounds (11 charges) (Asmodia?)


Female Human Cleric/4

Oh god. Please don't. The way I roll, every charge on that wand will be wasted.


I suggest the Bloodless take the wand, as that allows him to do backup healing if Asmodia is unavailable (and to heal Asmodia if she is taken out).

LeVash would like one of the Cure Moderate potions, and certainly has no objection to Calla taking the morningstar a; morningstar really seems appropriate for Calla.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

Are you saying Calla's blunt? : )

I know Asmodia can't roll more than a 1, but having Bloodless use it means he may have to take a round out of combat to cast instead of swing his sword, while Asmodia tends not to use weapons in combat. Not sure if we want that. But I'm fine with whatever everyone else wants.

Calla will take the holy symbol. Never know when you might need one of those, and the iron one's better than the wooden one she currently has. I'm also DELETING the breastplate +1 from party treasure, so Bejis can add it to his. I'll delete the rest of it as we determine definitely who's getting it.

Tark, did the Haloran League want any of the armor/xbows/short swords we took off the tieflings (the last list of four each)? Once we know that, we can determine how to divide gp.

Also, re-reading, looks like we've got the masterwork dagger and rapier available. Asmodia uses a rapier, no?


Female Human Cleric/4

Cure light wands are for post combat/in between combat healing, or "the barbarian is staggered and the cleric has already squeezed out all her healing!"

I have no problem with another divine caster taking the wand and using it to help Asmodia keep the group healthy.

Asmodia would be real uncomfy with anyone taking the unholy symbol of Asmodeus. Real uncomfy. Take it, say you're melting it down, I'm pretty sure she'll roll a natural one on her sense motive, so it's not likely to be an issue.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

OK, I'm fine with whoever taking the wand. Just let me know for sure and I'll delete it from my list.

Well, we could role-play it -- Calla's not likely to lie (at least initially; if she decides it gets you off her back, she'd probably have no problem with it though). She basically wants it in case she needs to blend in/use it to get something.

Oh, and HP to finish leveling up (I took dodge as a feat, and close casting as my magus arcana; plus true strike and vanish as spells, if you care, Tark): 1d8 ⇒ 8

Nice!


M Elf HP:33/33, AC:19/T:15/FF:14 - Percep: +10(LL Vis) F:+4/R:+9/W:+3 CMD: 20, Spd: 30ft, Init: +6 Rogue 4 (Pregen)

Suppose Bloodless can cart the wand about on the off chance we get into a jam where Asmodia is not in a position to cast...

Think we had a M/work BP kicking about in there as well. I'd almost have been tempted to go BP, but will keep saving for the day I can get a mith one.


Male Human Barbarian 5
Bloodless wrote:
Think we had a M/work BP kicking about in there as well. I'd almost have been tempted to go BP, but will keep saving for the day I can get a mith one.

Rebels:

We left one back in the streets, in the opening of the assault. See Tark's post


Male Orc Expert 5

So what's the verdict on the loot? And keep in mind your day jobs if you have them. If Pollux can get liegitmate work so can you. Which speaks volumes about those good for nothing non-taxed priests Caldazar and Meraxilar.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Inquisitor of Milani (Preacher archetype) 4

Paid work is just another form of imprisonment man. Fight the power - be a hobo!


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4

Looks like Bejis gets the breastplate, Calla gets the morningstar, Bloodless holds the wand and LeVash takes one of the Cure Moderate potions. The other potion will get held by someone, and the rest of the stuff is to be sold (unless League members want the regular gear).


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4

As far as his Day Job, Pavo will continue with hound training (but will stay *away* from the hounds of his current interest).

Based on Take 10, 8sp/day earned, so 24gp for the month.


Half-Elf (Chelaxian) Female HP 109, AC 26/18/21, F +13*, R +11*, W +15*, Init +8, Per +22 Inquisitor 13

We still need to know whether the league wanted any of the mundane items.


Male Orc Expert 5

They'll take anything you're willing to give.


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4
TarkXT wrote:
They'll take anything you're willing to give.

Sounds good to me, let the League have 'em. Selling off that kind of stuff always seemed odd to me...

"So, sir, that's 4 shortswords, 4 spears, 4 crossbows, and 4 suits of used, sweaty, bloodstained leather armor with tears near the vital organs...busy night?"

"...er, they fell off a wagon."


Female Human Cleric/4

How much is the monthly fee for the league?


Male Human (Chelaxian) Druid (Urban) - 4

The League doesn't charge anything, but search on "Profession" in this thread, and you'll find notations about Cost of Living (and possibly using skills to earn money during downtime).


Female Human Cleric/4

I thought Asmodia could charge for healing if need be. She doesn't actually have a profession, she just kinda... exists, hovering from place to place, getting drunk.


Male Orc Expert 5
Asmodia Crispin wrote:
I thought Asmodia could charge for healing if need be. She doesn't actually have a profession, she just kinda... exists, hovering from place to place, getting drunk.

So a destitute lifestyle making 1 silverpiece a day whenever you "work the taverns"?

Keep in mind something though. Asmodia would know that the worship of chaotic gods is illegal and rewards are given to those who turn in a priest of one. Going around keeping a drunk form bleeding to death in the middle of a bar brawl wont catch too much attention from the grateful or stupid. But a canny bartender or off duty Dottari will catch a working priest very easily and profit by it.


Female Human Cleric/4

Has she received no cut of the treasure from the latest outing? A silver piece a day living for 28-30 days barely equals 4 gold for the month. If she lives at the temple, I'm assuming no one is charging her to crash in a desecrated temple in the middle of the a poor district where not many Dottari were. Or have they increased their patrols in the area since we took out the Bastards?

There's beds down there already, right? Haha, besides the blood, what's not to love about the place?

*laughs*

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