Aldori Dueling Build

[Ryuko]

Gonna make myself an Aldori duelist build for an upcoming game. Does anyone have any tips on it? I'm thinking currently Fighter 5 then into duelist. Just a quick sketch of early levels.
Str-12
Dex-18
Con-13
Int-14
Wis-8
Cha-12

1-EWP(Aldori), Weapon Finesse, WF(Aldori), Sword Scion, Performer(for rp reasons
2-Dodge
3-Mobility
4-WS(Aldori)
5-Spring Attack
6-First duelist level. Aldori Dueling Mastery (From the Inner Sea Primer. The new one)

So.... thoughts, suggestions, deconstructions... hate?

[Davor]

Ryuko wrote:

Gonna make myself an Aldori duelist build for an upcoming game. Does anyone have any tips on it? I'm thinking currently Fighter 5 then into duelist. Just a quick sketch of early levels.

Str-12
Dex-18
Con-13
Int-14
Wis-8
Cha-12

1-EWP(Aldori), Weapon Finesse, WF(Aldori), Sword Scion, Performer(for rp reasons
2-Dodge
3-Mobility
4-WS(Aldori)
5-Spring Attack
6-First duelist level. Aldori Dueling Mastery (From the Inner Sea Primer. The new one)

So.... thoughts, suggestions, deconstructions... hate?

Just one note. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Quick Draw as a prereq. (at least on the pfsrd it does. I don't know if it's updated or not).

That said, make sure you check out the Aldori Swordlord Fighter Archetype. It's not a big bonus, but the first 5 levels will get you a decent benefit with your sword.

I also recommend shying away from Spring Attack, unless you really want the mobility. It's nice, but the benefits of using an Aldori Dueling Sword apply mostly when full-attacking. Even if you go into Duelist, you'll still need those full attacks to use features like Parry.

[TheOrangeOne]

What race do you plan on being? I am assuming human.

I would recommend the free hand fighter arche-type if you want the master of dueling theme. I assume that is the theme you are going for?

[Talon Stormwarden]

Ryuko wrote:

Gonna make myself an Aldori duelist build for an upcoming game. Does anyone have any tips on it? I'm thinking currently Fighter 5 then into duelist. Just a quick sketch of early levels.

Str-12
Dex-18
Con-13
Int-14
Wis-8
Cha-12

1-EWP(Aldori), Weapon Finesse, WF(Aldori), Sword Scion, Performer(for rp reasons
2-Dodge
3-Mobility
4-WS(Aldori)
5-Spring Attack
6-First duelist level. Aldori Dueling Mastery (From the Inner Sea Primer. The new one)

So.... thoughts, suggestions, deconstructions... hate?

Sounds like fun. I'm playing a fighter/duelist scimitar wielder with dervish dance, whirlwind attack and disarm. There is one problem though, you need BAB +6 to qualify for Duelist, so you'll want to go 6 levels of fighter then go into Duelist.

Also, Davor is correct, Quick Draw is needed for Aldori Dueling Mastery, luckily another level of fighter gets you the needed feat.

[Ryuko]

Davor wrote:

Ryuko wrote:

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Just one note. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Quick Draw as a prereq. (at least on the pfsrd it does. I don't know if it's updated or not).

That said, make sure you check out the Aldori Swordlord Fighter Archetype. It's not a big bonus, but the first 5 levels will get you a decent benefit with your sword.

I also recommend shying away from Spring Attack, unless you really want the mobility. It's nice, but the benefits of using an Aldori Dueling Sword apply mostly when full-attacking. Even if you go into Duelist, you'll still need those full attacks to use features like Parry.

Good point. And yeah, I guess spring attack doesn't work too well. So replace with Quick Draw, which I forgot was a prereq, and then go alodori mastery at 6, then into duelist at 7, as per what Talon said.

Orange one, while I am planning on going with that theme, free hand fighter seems to focus too much on disarming for my taste, and the build I have may be able to disarm, but only later, after getting Combat Expertise and Improved Disarm. Same problem I had with the Aldori swordlord archetype. Both seem good later, but I'm only taking 6 fighter levels so I don't get much in those that I liked. I was thinking of going pure fighter, but feel free to talk me out of it.

[Davor]

Oh. Definitely go pure fighter if you aren't interested in the "Dueling" aspect of the archetypes. That's really all they give you. Yes, you get the bonus to AC while full-attacking with a Aldori Dueling Sword, but the bonus is pretty negligible without going into fighter extensively. The extra +1 to-hit/damage will probably serve you better in the long run.

[Ryuko]

Davor wrote:

Oh. Definitely go pure fighter if you aren't interested in the "Dueling" aspect of the archetypes. That's really all they give you. Yes, you get the bonus to AC while full-attacking with a Aldori Dueling Sword, but the bonus is pretty negligible without going into fighter extensively. The extra +1 to-hit/damage will probably serve you better in the long run.

Thank you, and yeah, I'm going duelist but just not such a huge emphasis on disarming. At least not for quite a while. Anyone else have any suggestions?

[Kirrand]

I am now also working on a Duelist for a game. I would like to point out you might want a better wisdom since sense motive is a prerequisite for the prestige class.

[ub3r_n3rd]

Kirrand wrote:

I am now also working on a Duelist for a game. I would like to point out you might want a better wisdom since sense motive is a prerequisite for the prestige class.

The original postings were from May 2011, so you are over 3 years late for your advice :)