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Necrophidius, bringer of doom


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Good grief, this thing is terrifying! I ran an encounter for an APL 3ish party. It's CR 3. That should mean a fairly straightforward speedbump in their adventuring day, right?

DC 15 will save or be dazed for 2d4 rounds, to everyone within 30 feet.

DC 13 fort save on bite or be paralysed for 1d4 rounds.

This thing is a low-level TPK machine.

Does it need a fix?

Taldor

Nah, it's ok...NEcropfhidus is a cr3 boss...i always differentiated certain CR bosses from certain cr mooks...


Ha ha, my PBP level 1 character is currently getting owned by one these things. Natural 1 on the will save then dazed for 7 rounds.

Goodbye Kua, I barley knew ye.


It's mindless, but even so a single 'line of code' could make it terrible to fight.

If at least one enemy is not dazed then dance of death else bite nearest enemy.

If a more complex instruction is allowed:

If at least one enemy is not dazed then
dance of death else
if at least one enemy is not paralysed then
bite nearest enemy that is not paralysed else
bite nearest enemy.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Maybe allow a new save as a full round action each round? That way, the players have at least 1 die roll to do each round, and they have a chance of getting back in the action, which is fun.

Nothing is worse than being paralyzed, dazed, asleep, or stunned for an entire fight. Even if you die, at least you can begin rolling up a new character. Even running away with a feat effect lets you (somewhat) decide the path away from your peril. Just standing there or lying around doing nothing.


A new save each round would help a lot, I think.

Has anyone else had troubles with this beastie?


I actually had to rewind an encounter with a few Necrophidus for a brand new group. The only one capable of overcoming their DR kept failing his save against the dance, the rest either had the wrong kind of weapons or couldn't deal enough to matter. So I reset the encounter, redid a few characters and then went at it much easier.


why was everyone within 30 feet? that seems like an odd way to travel IMO

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Jam412 wrote:

Ha ha, my PBP level 1 character is currently getting owned by one these things. Natural 1 on the will save then dazed for 7 rounds.

Goodbye Kua, I barley knew ye.

Yeah, I think we're screwed there ...

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Shadow_of_death wrote:
why was everyone within 30 feet? that seems like an odd way to travel IMO

How so? For a small, low level party in a dungeon it seems fairly logical.

Grand Lodge

Oh gods. 30 foot round room + Necrophidius + only one party member with a bludgeoning weapon = 29 rounds of combat.

The only thing that kept us from having any deaths were the five(!) divine casters in the party.


Mothman wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
why was everyone within 30 feet? that seems like an odd way to travel IMO
How so? For a small, low level party in a dungeon it seems fairly logical.

Ya know now that I think about it, it is kind of weird that my groups characters all act like each other smell... maybe it was all those fireballs that one time....

either way im having trouble finding stats for this thing to find weaknesses.

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Shadow_of_death wrote:
Mothman wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
why was everyone within 30 feet? that seems like an odd way to travel IMO
How so? For a small, low level party in a dungeon it seems fairly logical.

Ya know now that I think about it, it is kind of weird that my groups characters all act like each other smell... maybe it was all those fireballs that one time....

either way im having trouble finding stats for this thing to find weaknesses.

Fireballs can make you paranoid like that! ;-)

In outdoor areas our parties tend to spread out a lot, in dungeons we tend to bunch up somewhat – both configurations have pros and cons depending on the situation.

Shadow Lodge

Arutema wrote:

Oh gods. 30 foot round room + Necrophidius + only one party member with a bludgeoning weapon = 29 rounds of combat.

The only thing that kept us from having any deaths were the five(!) divine casters in the party.

Ah... we played **Spoiler**, when we got to that room with 6 first level characters it was a near TPK, another group playing the same night lost one character and nearly the whole party. At a later time I was GMing that and TPKed a 4 player party.

That is a brutal CR 3.


Umbral Reaver wrote:

Good grief, this thing is terrifying! I ran an encounter for an APL 3ish party. It's CR 3. That should mean a fairly straightforward speedbump in their adventuring day, right?

DC 15 will save or be dazed for 2d4 rounds, to everyone within 30 feet.

DC 13 fort save on bite or be paralysed for 1d4 rounds.

This thing is a low-level TPK machine.

Does it need a fix?

The saves could probably push it to a CR 4, but I don't see it as a TPK for a 3rd level party unless there are a lot of bad saves, but bad rolls can kill anyone so I can't really go off of that. It still only has an AC of 15, and switching to a bludgeoning weapon bypass the DR.

Edit:My group are normally pretty optimized though. I think it also depends on where the encounter takes place.


Mothman wrote:
Jam412 wrote:

Ha ha, my PBP level 1 character is currently getting owned by one these things. Natural 1 on the will save then dazed for 7 rounds.

Goodbye Kua, I barley knew ye.

Yeah, I think we're screwed there ...

Yep. I was hopeful until I saw the damage that it did to Badang with it's bite. Ouch.

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