And if you can do you do damage as a Heavy Shield? Do you affect Incorporeal creatures since its a force affect?
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And if you can do you do damage as a Heavy Shield? Do you affect Incorporeal creatures since its a force affect?
A Ring of Force Shield replicates a Wall of Force variant, from a defensive view it does protect you from incorporeal creatures.
IMO since the spell doesn't have any offensive options I don't think that you can use it as a normal shield and perform Shield Bash.To clarify my opinion looking the matter from a economical perspective,
We have a Ring that has a market value of 8500gp and it effectively counts as a Non-Masterwork Heavy Shield that is effective against incorporeal attacks,
since it is a Wall of Force.
Now that is almost identical with the Ghost Touch enhancement for shields which is a +3 Enhancement roughly a cost of 9000gp supposing that you don't need a +1 actual enhancement to place it on your shield.
The difference between those two is that the Ghost Touch Shield can count also as a Ghost Touch weapon against incorporeal creatures, so their difference should clarify the fact that you cannot use a Ring of Force Shield offensively as an normal shield.
Otherwise the Ring's value should change accordingly with an errata.
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Ghost touch is a +1 ability. Including the required +1 enhancement bonus and masterwork thats a grand total of 4300 gp + weapon value. (Table 15-9, pg 469)
Since the entry specifically states it can be wielded as a heavy shield I say let the character shield bash with it. As a force effect it should hit incorporeal creatures just fine. Unless the character has the right feats they'll still loose the AC bonus while doing so.
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Ghost touch is a +1 ability. Including the required +1 enhancement bonus and masterwork thats a grand total of 4300 gp + weapon value. (Table 15-9, pg 469)
Since the entry specifically states it can be wielded as a heavy shield I say let the character shield bash with it. As a force effect it should hit incorporeal creatures just fine. Unless the character has the right feats they'll still loose the AC bonus while doing so.
Table 15-9, pg 469 is for melee Weapon Special Abilities.
Check out Table 15-5, pg 463 for Shield Enhancements and Special Abilities.Now if you want to enchant it as a normal shield then yes you can pay an additional cost for the +2 Total (+1 and Ghost Touch weapon), although as a GM myself
I totally oppose it for the following reasons.
Consider if the Force Shield can be destroyed like an normal Shield?
Since the ring requires a minimum caster level 9 and supposing that the Shield is exactly like a Wall of Force it should have 30 Hardness and 180 HP until it breaks
and then it can be reactivated as a free action.
Then consider adding a +5 Enhancement bonus on AC to this with any other effect you can think until it reaches a +10 cap.
IMO BROKEN
Ghost touch for *armor and shields* is a +3 equivalent.
I'd allow it to be used for bashing - but it cannot be upgraded with additional enhancements.
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Meh.
Shield Bash is a relatively feeble attack anyway - why not let it happen?I can't see it coming to dominate the campaign...
-Kle.
That's because you haven't been shield bashed by a Dwarf yet!!! :P
Long story short, by RAW wording you can shield bash with a Ring of Force shield and most likely count against incorporeal attacks and targets normally, so allowing it depends clearly to your GM.
All I'm mentioning is that, if it is legal as it is then maybe its cost and prerequisite spells should be altered accordingly, purely for game balancing purposes.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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Since Steve's Photonic shield is the "iconic" ring of force shield to me, I say bash away.
Shaxberd look at the date of the thread before you post, it's from 2011. I might even be in the wrong just posting to tell you this.