How much would you pay for a rolled, vinyl version of the Inner Sea map?


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Uninvited Ghost wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
uriel222 wrote:
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?
I'd rather that product be a globe.
I'd like a globe too!

+1 to the globe but, only if it opens up to reveal tumblers and fine whiskey nestled within.


drayen wrote:
Uninvited Ghost wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
uriel222 wrote:
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?
I'd rather that product be a globe.
I'd like a globe too!
+1 to the globe but, only if it opens up to reveal tumblers and fine whiskey nestled within.

Holy shit, I think I need to get new pants now.

The globe should have a dice compartment within. Possibly with some Q-workshop Golarion-y dice!


Being the happy owner of a huge Ptolus vinyl map, like others, I would like to put a +1 to the idea.

The globe would be nice too!


A globe of Golarion would be amazing. I'd like to wait until the whole planet is more fleshed out though, so I don't end up with a globe that only has the Inner Sea and some of Tian Xia detailed.

As for vinyl, I like the idea of using a local banner printer for personal versions. The expense and profit margin for Paizo might not be worth it. The more expensive something is, the smaller the customer base for it. The smaller the market, the smaller the production run. The smaller the production run, the more production cost per item. And storing rolled vinyl has its own considerations as well.

A globe sounds awesome, if stupidly expensive, when there's enough detail to make a globe without excessive bald spots. Right now, a vinyl map seems like something better handled locally. Of course if Paizo can get the price down on it, I could be wrong.

What about bedsheets and pillow cases with a printed map of Golarion on them? Would that be very costly? Just throwing it out there.


One thing to also take into consideration is that a lot of your (international?) customers might not have any access to a local company that can print the vinyl maps/banners (at least not for a reasonable amount of money).
So some of us might be interested in a vinyl map offering from Paizo - barring totally prohibitive shipping costs (they do weigh more than paper maps after all).

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GentleGiant wrote:

One thing to also take into consideration is that a lot of your (international?) customers might not have any access to a local company that can print the vinyl maps/banners (at least not for a reasonable amount of money).

So some of us might be interested in a vinyl map offering from Paizo - barring totally prohibitive shipping costs (they do weigh more than paper maps after all).

Shipping costs for a rolled vinyl map would be pretty extreme... even moreso if shipped overseas. People already complain about the costs of shipping a book like the Core Rulebook overseas... I shudder to think what the reaction would be to shipping and handling costs on a several pound box that's about four feet long...


James Jacobs wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:

One thing to also take into consideration is that a lot of your (international?) customers might not have any access to a local company that can print the vinyl maps/banners (at least not for a reasonable amount of money).

So some of us might be interested in a vinyl map offering from Paizo - barring totally prohibitive shipping costs (they do weigh more than paper maps after all).
Shipping costs for a rolled vinyl map would be pretty extreme... even moreso if shipped overseas. People already complain about the costs of shipping a book like the Core Rulebook overseas... I shudder to think what the reaction would be to shipping and handling costs on a several pound box that's about four feet long...

I feared that. However, if the other vinyl mats mentioned earlier (e.g. the ones done for WotC) are sold abroad, maybe it can be an option for you too - although you might not get that many direct sales from your webshop.


Just wanted to add my voice to this, and say I would definitely pay a pretty fair amount for a nice vinyl map of the Inner Sea. I'd love for said map to be comparable to the size and quality of the Poster Map Folio. I don't think I'd find use for a globe though, besides the incredible cool factor.


To make my position clear: I would be willing to pay upwards of two hundred American dollars for a 12" or larger globe of Golarion, if assurances could be had that it wouldn't be retconned into blatant inaccuracy.

I am just that crazy.


I'd pay whatever price Paizo asked for both a vinyl map of the Inner Sea and a globe of Golarion.

Just saying.


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I actually have plenty of maps of the inner sea, but i would probably still buy the vinyl map if it was released, but even more so i would go for the globe. To me that would be too awesome.

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i like both though funds are limited....


$30 for a good sized one but i would use it as permanent decoration in our basement. Yes the stereotype is true we are basement dwellers :P


finitebees@gmail.com wrote:
$30 for a good sized one but i would use it as permanent decoration in our basement. Yes the stereotype is true we are basement dwellers :P

Ha! I'm jealous. Basements would be awesome here in AZ -- but the rocky soil makes them cost prohibitive.

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Depending on size, I would pay for a map of Golarion, but not the Inner sea since I already have the one from the guide. A cool idea would be if it was two sided, one with present day Golarion, the other with Golarion from the Ancient times of Azlanti. For this double-sided version I would pay up t0 100.00 if it was a nice size.


I'd pay 100$ for a clean vinyl map, without any names.


Darwyn wrote:

I'd pay whatever price Paizo asked for both a vinyl map of the Inner Sea and a globe of Golarion.

Just saying.

One MILLION dollars....


I would pay probably up to $100 for a vinyl map of the Inner Sea area...

I would pay alot for a globe of Golarion(or the FR or Ebberron) for that matter...that would be awesome.

Though would not a globe cost more to make, store and ship? More than a vinyl map?

Also could Pazio not go in paternership with Gale Force Nine like WotC did?


DaveMage wrote:
Darwyn wrote:

I'd pay whatever price Paizo asked for both a vinyl map of the Inner Sea and a globe of Golarion.

Just saying.

One MILLION dollars....

SOLD!

::goes off to steal one million dollars::


James Jacobs wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.

But I (with I meaning the average customer) could go to some company like Ghaele Force Nine (which is what it name should be ;-)), give them the PDF and let them make me such a map, right? I mean, without breaking any rule or law or your hearts and considering that this map wouldn't be used commercially in any way (i.e. it would probably be put on a wall in my house).

That should fall under using the PDF for private stuff.

That's exactly where that falls.

If you buy a PDF, you can print it out to your heart's content. You just can't sell those printouts, nor can you flood the market with them for free. Those printouts have to remain private.

I see no difference between printing out a copy of the inner sea region on a 1987 dot matrix printer or printing it out at a professional modern printer on a vinyl map. Aside, of course, from likely differences in quality.

Now it's my turn to be snarky.

This is exactly the reality of Intellectual Monopoly. Yeah, I know, it sucks to be poor when you have a law that unfairly punishes the poor (U.S. Copyright Law with it's extensions to 90+ years for companies and 140+ years for individuals), but what can you do? *shrugs* I believe that low cost vinyl maps of the Inner Sea marketed by the poor falls under the heading of *Ghost Work.*

It would be great for Paizo to produce a map that can't be torn. Even if it has to be laminated. And It would be great for Paizo to have it printed, stored, and to sell to make a profit on it. But the profit has to justify the cost. I mean, thousands of people will have to buy it for Paizo to break even on it.

This is too much of a specialty product for a company like Paizo to produce. But the only way this law will be reasonable again is if Congress was flooded with reasonable people who won't be bought by lobbyists. If a specialty company were allowed to produce very high quality maps of the Inner Sea -- I'm talking a real luxury item, something that Bill Gates would buy and last for years and years; then the profit can justify the cost because they are going after a specialty market.

However, the cost of getting PERMISSO may not be worth the actual printing. You have to hire lawyers who go talk to lawyers who say "You have to pay this amount, I don't care what Eric Mona says!" The start up costs may be so UGLY that it's not worth it.

I'm sorry everyone, but because of U.S. Law and Paizo's focus as a mass production company, you pretty much have to laminate that map on your own or go have someone print a vinyl map for you. Until this country is forced to repeal most of it's laws, your stuck with the reality of Paizo owning a complete monopoly on Golarion. Whether they want the monopoly, or you want them to have a monopoly, or not.

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Got one made at a local banner shop. It is 6 foot long. The place was unable to remove the names and stuff, but that is okay since it is so awesome.

EDIT: Would still like to buy an official globe...

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