Guidelines for Rule Changes

[Liam Warner]

pauljathome wrote:

If you have played the character at level 2 or higher you can NOT change the characters race

Ok thanks, new character it is and dump the old.

[Protoman]

So hypothetical situation if the Advanced Class Guide errata ever comes out and shield champion brawlers are officially proficient with shields as both weapons and defensive items (normal use of shields), what happens to those shield champions who currently have to go the extra mile to be proficient with shields in order to use the archetype as intended?

If the shield champion picked up Martial Weapon Proficiency (heavy shield) or (light shield), or worhipping Gorum only for the shield-trained trait (which isn't great for two-handing a shield), would the potential errata count enough as the class changing and a player is allowed to rebuilt the shield champion to be more in line with new rules?

[GM Lamplighter]

If it happens, and the existing rules don't cover it, they'll tell us. Blanket rules can't deal with every specific situation.

[Erick Wilson]

Cool.

[Drake Brimstone]

I was asked to post my questions to this by Tanya at ECCC this last weekend.

So, I have a Character that took 1 level of Sorcerer specifically to pick up the spell Blood Money, I purchased a Blood Reservoir of Physical Prowess specifically to use with the spell Blood Money. Blood Money was later (December I think) banned.

What do I have to do, and what can I do about this?

1. Swap the spell for something else
2. Retrain the Class level
3. Sell back the Magic Item for Full Price
4. Retrain the entire character

The spell does not fall exactly under the things in the first post, but due to this specific spell it actually most closely relates to:

Quote:

If a class, prestige class changes, or a class-feature-dependent Ability score is altered:

You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.

This is because the spells power is very dependent on your Strength score.

The specific thing I asked Tanya about was the magic item and selling it for full price as it is basically useless to my character for any other purpose then the banned spell.

[Frost890]

So I do not know if this thread is still active or not but if we have an idea for a proposed change; where would we submit it?

[BigNorseWolf]

Frost890 wrote:

So I do not know if this thread is still active or not but if we have an idea for a proposed change; where would we submit it?

Oh, heyo.

Usually you request a change as its own subject in the message boards. They have asked in the past that you don't call out people personally or label it faq or anything

This thread is for what happens when rules changes smash your hopes and dreams of a character into useless flinders impact your character and how to go about remedying that.

[Nefreet]

Steven Lau wrote:

I would like to make a request to Unstiky this, since this has been added to the 4.0 Guide.

Having just removed the Sticky about HeroLab Pregens, might we wish to remove this one as well?

Reading the first couple pages again, most of this conversation took place before character retraining was even possible. It's actually humorous to read some of the posts, now.

I think, if someone has a specific Retraining question, it'd probably be best to ask that in a separate thread. Obviously, for the last 5 years, few people have utilized this thread for that purpose.

What do people think?

Unrelated note: looks like Mike Brock lost a GM Star. And all titles =P.