Pretty sure Shuriken has stated he is male.
i live in an anatomically male false human body, but i am really a Shoggoth in false guise. my real name is Ss'rr'ff'ss'gg'tt'cc, and i have come from the maelstrom to bring insanity.. don't bother pronouncing my name. it is well beyond the capacity of the human tongue.
*Tears off False Human Guise like a wolf ravenously tearing a steak*
"I Am Ss'rr'ff'ss'gg'tt'cc, servant of Lamashtu, you puny humans shall bow before your new master. and bring all your attractive female human virgin youths to me. so that i may convert each one to my service."
I'm going to go with.....yeah, you're posts are creepy. And not in the "I like to read them in bed on windy nights" good kind of creepy style.
Also, a toon is just a character in most games. I've heard it used for everything from MMOs to good old action rpgs and other places as well. It's really no big deal, it just makes the character sound kinda trivial, which is why you see the outrage at it in both these boards and by the people who reeeaaaaalllly take them some WoW pretty seriously.
But really, it's a made up character......it is trivial. So who cares if people call it a toon or a poopz. I certainly play for poopz and giggles anyhow, and am darn proud of it.
my eccentricy is like the life blood of these boards. if it weren't for my "creepy" posts, nobody would come to these boards. i got people flocking to various other online communities, just be being the "creepy" case of insanity i am. my characters are indeed odd, yet interesting.
Kira Moonsong, unfortunately got critted for triple her maximum health by an elder earth elemental a year before 4th edition was released. her body turned to powder by the force. 3.5 edition was the system, sorcerers had d4s and no class features, everyone had fewer feats, toughness was worthless, and the elemental critted after power attacking for every point of base attack bonus he had. which was like 20 something and kira had health in the low 30s. she was fully buffed with mirror image, shield, a twighlight mithril shirt and various other defenses. the thing got so darn lucky. twas like it was fudged.
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*Tears off False Human Guise like a wolf ravenously tearing a steak*
"I Am Ss'rr'ff'ss'gg'tt'cc, servant of Lamashtu, you puny humans shall bow before your new master. and bring all your attractive female human virgin youths to me. so that i may convert each one to my service."
This Alias is still less creepy than SN.
why am i so creepy? i know i consider myself eccentric but i want to know why i am so creepy. is it my avatar choice? my odd choice in characters? or whatever else you can explain?
Personally, on this Off Topic Nekogami thing, I don't find Nekogami the least bit creepy. I don't always agree with their posts, but heck do any of us agree with anyone mostly:).
I actually like the fact Nekogami has well thought up characters. One of my players for years has begun playing the same guy. (greedy lecher that angers easily.) Gets tiring.
As for the choices, I think how the player plays their toon/character/avatar/PC/icon/whatsit brings about the excitement. Not so much the mechanics. Truthfully, in games, I never have refered to a character as a "sword and board", I am more likely to give their religous orenatation, regional history, cultural class, racial heritage and what they wear. After all that, I may happen to mention that Vance has a longsword and carries a shield with the "whatever" painted upon it.
greg
PS:@ Shuriken Nekogami, glad your face is back on :)
@Greg Wasson
i thank you for your honest opinion.
i also thank you for appreciating my creative but eccentric characters.
i need to see some others post thiers.
i visualize my characters a little more artistically
i go for the descriptive visual, than i go for a rough series of personality traits, finish up the concept and then i go for game mechanics that best fit. but i try to at least maintain a numerically viable character, even if i have to beg the DM to let me tweak minor existing features or create new feats.
i have so many interesting characters, my initial pcs are my less interesting ones, the later we progress in a campaign, the more interesting pcs i will follow up with.
i'm sure most of us remember my pet trio of Dimitri Molotov, Kira Moonsong, and Hitomi Shuisei. all 3 were in my first campaign, a modified shackled city. that campaign was loaded with pc deaths and served as a year long crash course in 3.5 edition optimization for me.
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I'm gonna have to spend some time going through some of SN's recent posts.
When I saw someone first say his posts are creepy I thought, Hmmm, should start reading his Posts. I didn't want to admit I'd never really read any of his posts, despite recognizing the Avatar as a regular on the Boards, cuz I felt bad about it -- but now I gotta fess up and go to the profile to read some of those "creepy" posts.
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I think the creepiness stems from the fact that you are clearly playing out some oddly twisted Asian/Schoolgirl/Virgin Fetishes through your Role Playing Characters.
Oh and that is only mildly creepy... It is the sexual abuse that some of your characters have gone through as youths, that is documented, that brings your creepiness to a whole new level.
Yes this a fantasy Role Playing game but it isn't The Book of Erotic Fantasy and it isn't Fetlife for Gamers so... Kinda wrong!
Ciao!
most of said posts are washed behind laundry list of pbp applications.
not all of my characters are asian nor schoolgirls. and not all of them went through sexual abuse either.
i have played more western inspired characters
Umbriere was inspired by me looking up victorian era porcelain dolls on the internet, followed by looking up gothic lolita and then eating pizza.
"paragon half sound elemental dragonwrought great wyrm kobold sorcerer"
I don't know why, but those things always creep me out.
But seriously (ok, not really that serious) I think pre-teen sexuality is always a little weird, even if it is just an illusion, Olson twin, assumption, anime, etc. Still, I would go for a cool story over boring any day of the week.
why am i so creepy? i know i consider myself eccentric but i want to know why i am so creepy. is it my avatar choice? my odd choice in characters? or whatever else you can explain?
It's probably because you have a volume of posts detailing what appears to be a penchant for prepubescent or barely-pubescent females, along with the aforementioned detailing of sexual abuse or other sexual overtones towards those females.
Virtually everything you do on these boards is couched in some context of the above. You regularly post something related to this.
Quite honestly, you come off as a predator, or someone building up speed towards becoming a predator.
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But seriously (ok, not really that serious) I think pre-teen sexuality is always a little weird, even if it is just an illusion, Olson twin, assumption, anime, etc. Still, I would go for a cool story over boring any day of the week
Fair point... a Character needs to be interesting, yes, but not sexually sadistic or twisted!
It's probably because you have a volume of posts detailing what appears to be a penchant for prepubescent or barely-pubescent females, along with the aforementioned detailing of sexual abuse or other sexual overtones towards those females.
Virtually everything you do on these boards is couched in some context of the above.
Quite honestly, you come off as a predator, or someone building up speed towards becoming a predator.
My point exactly. It is just all so damn unwholesome!
And just to butt in, Luminiere, but your characters aren't even interesting. They're a random collection of ideas and rules elements, overlaying strange fetishism.
Thats not interesting. Thats just creepy self-service.
That said, I'm somewhat convinced your just a troll.
i can sometimes be a little perverse.
i am working on it. i have a few characters that are not fantasies of mine. though my initial batch seem to be fetish fuel.
a fair portion of my female pcs have been very chaste, despite appearing to be potential fetish fuel on the surface and only a small amount really went through sexual abuse.
That said, I'm somewhat convinced your just a troll.
I'm going to have to take offense at that, especially since it puts me in a position of defending this person.
The person in question has been on the boards for quite some time, and doesn't seem to be here to stir up trouble and act a troll.
This board seems to use the word "troll" increasingly inappropriately. The bizarre little fetish getting posted all over is creepy and inappropriate, but it's not really trolling behavior.
I really wish people would lay off the use of that term as a catch-all for someone they don't like or don't agree with.
i can sometimes be a little perverse.
i am working on it. i have a few characters that are not fantasies of mine. though my initial batch seem to be fetish fuel.
Seek help before unwanted assistance finds you and incarcerates you.
That said, I'm somewhat convinced your just a troll.I'm going to have to take offense at that, especially since it puts me in a position of defending this person.
The person in question has been on the boards for quite some time, and doesn't seem to be here to stir up trouble and act a troll.
This board seems to use the word "troll" increasingly inappropriately. The bizarre little fetish getting posted all over is creepy and inappropriate, but it's not really trolling behavior.
I really wish people would lay off the use of that term as a catch-all for someone they don't like or don't agree with.
I wasn't. What I meant was I was convinced that he wasn't a real person at all. My disagreement has nothing to do with my troll beleif. Isn't that the standard parlance? A troll is someone masquerading as something to provoke a reaction?
Shuriken,
Since you seem to genuinely want to know why the word "creepy" is being tossed around in relation to some of your posts I will actually toss in my own small note to go along with what others have said.
I'm sure it was intended as a joke, but the psychological suggestion of literally having a monster trapped within your own personality or body that demands young women be sacrificed to you is extremely unsettling. Especially in the context of some of the aforementioned "fetish fuel" and such, the implication of an "inner demon" who desires these things is...well...creepy.
Are we reading too much into this stuff? Maybe. I dunno. The fact that it is right there to be read into, however, is what I think some of us find disturbing.
I wasn't. What I meant was I was convinced that he wasn't a real person at all. My disagreement has nothing to do with my troll beleif. Isn't that the standard parlance? A troll is someone masquerading as something to provoke a reaction?
Trolls stir up reactions, but they do so with no intention of being productive. Trolls also don't listen very well; they come with a viewpoint, present it as the ONE SUPREME TRUTH (patent pending), take time in many cases to bash all opposing views, and generally do so in a way that is extremely aggravating.
Edited due to Brian's fair advice.
I wasn't. What I meant was I was convinced that he wasn't a real person at all. My disagreement has nothing to do with my troll beleif. Isn't that the standard parlance? A troll is someone masquerading as something to provoke a reaction?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted".
Increasingly, on the Paizo boards, the label of "troll" is assigned to someone who is taking a counter-point in a debate (amongst other equally inappropriate uses).
Lathiira: You may want to edit names out to avoid having your post suppressed. Calling out people by name (former users and current users) has been ruled not kosher. Additionally, while they may be heated or passionate posters, I wouldn't call them trolls.
i don't even intend to make my characters into the potential fetish fuel they are. it just happens. especially when i have a DM who will enforce his fantasies upon my characters and another player who plays out his fantasy upon everyone else. gender and age matter not to him. and his campaigns tend to be very "R" rated for several reasons. even if i play a completely chaste monk of a race with strong moral virtues, expect him/her to end up becoming fetish fuel by means of DM fiat. so i just don't bother and just accept my DM's crazy stuff.
The you all need to seek help, and you specifically need to remove yourself from that environment.
All of that aside, none of that really excuses bringing that behavior to a public forum.
@Brian/Lathiira: My bad. I misunderstood the slang! I can see how troll becoming the new Godwin's Law is annoying. That was not my intention however.
@Shruiken: Thats wow. That is not a healthy place. For your own good get out of that situation. Accepting that kind of behaviour is not good, for you or for anyone else.
Hey guys! Remember this post?
So i'm a newbie to pen and paper rpgs, but i've decided on a few things that i dont really like. Nothing earthshattering, but just my opinions and i wanted to share.
In my opinion, sword and board = sword and bored. Its too stereotypical. Yeah as a fighter, once you get shield master, you are a bad mofo, but URGH! its frickin boring!
Second opinion, twf (non sword and bored), is WAY overrated. Visions of a lithe elf come to mind, a whirlwind of flashing steel, dual rapiers spinning blood and visceral in a majestic dance of blades. BS. I would be ok with a rapier and a dagger, axe and short sword, but generally i've seen 'dual' this and 'twin' that. Boring.
My favorite is a 2h fighter (or ranger, or pally or whatever), fyi. I also like, in theory the dual capabilities of the druid. So far my favorite toon is my dual threat ranger, lvl 11. Archer combat feats mixed with quick draw, crit focus and improved crit with a rapier, Guide archtype. My current is a lvl 2 pally, with a great sword.
I'd be interested in hearing what some of you guys think is 'overrated' or too stereotypical. I'd also like to hear some of your favorite builds.
BC
i live in the U.S. as well, the state of california and i have never attacked a child in my life.
i may potentially have a subconscious thing for youth that i may not yet be fully aware of, but that's what Gelbooru was made to help me suppress.
and i can't stand real flesh and blood children anyway. there are just too many undesirable traits and too many attached undesired legal issues.
the animated variety is much more appealing to me.
at least that cell shaded hentai image of Ibuki Suika isn't going to get me locked up.
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To the OP, I actually find that every playstyle is one I will want to try out eventually. I personally enjoy "Gish" builds (Caster/Melee Hybrids), despite them being mechanically unstable. But I've also enjoyed playing Sword/Board characters, and dual-wielders (one of my current characters is a sword/board Paladin -- Divine Defender). Yeah, some of these ideas seem really boring to you, and some of that may have to do with your time with WoW (after all the tanking I did back in my day, I wouldn't wanna play a sword/board fighter [read: Warrior] either).
Still, I find that what really makes a character is coming up with a look and style. Not just for roleplaying, but in-combat as well. Get a couple of flashes of what you want your character to look like, then roll with it. Or, come up with a full backstory explaining what your character looks like, as well as his adventures, and then use that to define your character. Yeah, some builds look boring on paper or seem boring at first, but if you get a firm grasp of what your character's personality is (appearance as well as mental), you'll find that it's not so bad.
That said, I'll explain why I like Gish builds so much. Gishes, I feel, get the best of everything, without the restrictions of Armor. Yes, I hate armor; with a passion. Armor check penalties make me cringe. Plus, in many of the Paizo published adventure paths, there are situations where armor can be a potentially deadly hindrance. Gishes usually have some way of magically bolstering their armor, and that just thrills me to no end. That, plus the coolness factor of getting to swing a sword AND cast spells? Just icing on the cake.
Edit*: Thx for the tip, Fergie.
I'm going to flag this, not because I think it is a bad discussion, but it is WAY off topic, and not the type of discussion that really belongs here in every way. If someone wants to start a new discussion of these general issues somewhere, by all means feel free, but dissecting an individual posters issues is not a good idea, and from what I have seen in the past, generally not allowed.
Might I suggest that others flag their posts or mine, and let this thread get back to what the OP was talking about.
i would never sexually attack a real child.
i unintentionally pass myself of as a potential pedophile but i am not.
what i meant to say by that post is
i have no desire for real children in any way.
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i would never sexually attack a real child.
i unintentionally pass myself of as a potential pedophile but i am not.
what i meant to say by that post is
i have no desire for real children in any way.
@Shuriken:
I hate to say it, but yeah, those characters/ideas can get pretty creepy... by then, it's a roleplaying game. Sometimes stuff isn't PG rated.I mean, have you guys played Dark Heresy? The Warhammer 40k RPG? You've got body parts flying all over the place, people being ripped apart, people EXPLODING... it's not a pretty sight. And it's not done in a dark-humor kind of way. It's very gory. Some people just prefer that kind of setting.
Now, if Shuriken wants to have characters with dark, disturbing stories surrounding them... again, it's roleplaying. Not every character is a representation of some deep-seeded psychosis. I mean, by that logic, my last character, a female dwarf wizard (earth school)/fighter, could be interpreted as some kind of dominatrix fantasy... But it's not. It's just an interesting idea. And yeah, some people may not have the same tastes as others, but that doesn't make their ideas pedophilic.
Note*: If anything I said sounded rude, I apologize, as that was not my intent. Just trying to be clear, not be a jerk :P
thank you Davor.
you have summarized what i am trying to say much more effectively.
and that hidden abberration with a desire for children was a sick joke based upon the common misconceptions others have about me.
i just like to roleplay disturbing characters. characters with disturbing backstories just add to the flavor. put this disturbing flavor on a child to completely freak people out.
while it's true that a lot of my PC's have been underage girls with disturbing pasts, i see it as just roleplaying to have a character that disturbing.
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Back to the original topic, I forgot to mention what kind of builds I thought were over-rated.
While I like Gish builds, I actually think that god Wizards are very over-rated. I know, I know, I'm crazy, right? Here's the thing though... being a God wizard is like being that one guy who decided to play a healer to help the group... It's BORING. I mean, out of all the roles I've ever filled, the only one I've never liked is the god Wizard. I made a Witch Debuffer once that was one of the most fun characters I've ever played, but, maybe it was just a case of unluck with my wizards, because they always, ALWAYS had their spells resisted by everything. I dunno... Just never felt that great.
@Shuriken
I think it is important to keep in mind that different people have different appreciation for the game and the kind of environment they play in. Some of my goth friends had some very racy abyss inspired orgy DnD play. And some other friends play virgin clean pure settings with little subtext or moral ambiguity.
Now. The important lesson here is to be appreciative of the audience that you write for/to.
at least that cell shaded hentai image of Ibuki Suika isn't going to get me locked up.
Actualy it can. As a calfornia man find out. He was arrested for possesing the manga that is pretty much child porn. Even though he claims to be a collector. I think he went to jail for a couple of years and is now on the SO list.
Rather this is right or wrong...or rather you are a pedophile waiting to happen or not...this not a topic for a pulic forum. I play what some would call disturbed characters...heck maybe even characters you would think is messed up. But I don't go around shouting about them in public because I can respect that people don't want to read about them. Some people have RL issues or just don't want to think about it...so out of respect for them I don't.
I think you should examine why you do post about them?
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not all of my characters are asian nor schoolgirls. and not all of them went through sexual abuse either.
i have played more western inspired characters
Umbriere was inspired by me looking up victorian era porcelain dolls on the internet, followed by looking up gothic lolita and then eating pizza.
I hate jumping on the wagon here, but over the two-ish years I've seen you post here, I've seen a number of points indicating you like to play prepubsecent, sexualized, females. I really cannot express how creepy your posts come across and how uncomfortable you've made me over the years whenever I happen through one of those threads.
Contrary to what you're stating here, you've indicated elsewhere that you prefer playing underage girls (see here and here). In addition, you originally presented yourself as female (I assume to deflect attention), which only adds to the creep factor (an example can be found here). Those threads were found with about two minutes of searching, remembering where I've had the hairs on the back of my neck raise before.
I hate singling out members of the forums, because I feel that it can be abusive and come across as bulling, but honestly, I've let how I've felt go long enough, and I'm at the point that with the sheer number of people also indicating that they feel similarly to how I do, that it's not just me. I don't know what kind of problem you have, but it does come across as predatory. So in an effort to keep this coming across as an attack (which we don't need on these overly friendly boards), all I can say is, I really do think you need to consider seeing somebody about this, and as has been indicated before, if the group you play with is part of the problem, I'd strongly consider leaving it, I don't think it's been a good influence.
...Isn't that the standard parlance? A troll is someone masquerading as something to provoke a reaction?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted".
With the acknowledgement that, yes, like 'fanboy,' the accusation is almost more prevalent than the act, and with the reservation that using Wikipedia for language references is about on par with asking questions to the stalls in a restaurant's bathroom, I think that the critical point is the intent, which is something that's in both definitions. As such, it's not a 'masquerade' in the sense of a false personality, but a false position that has the intent of causing ire.
In other words, to specifically troll this topic would be to suggest that, oh man, the OP's an idiot for trying to play Pathfinder like a &*#$*(&*( game of Seventh Sea, if I didn't have an honest belief in the OP's lack of intelligence or in the possibility - or even viability - of a light-weapon combat sort of game or game variant for Pathfinder. But in the same way, I could more generally troll - for instance, if I included "socialist" or "Christian" in the paragraph prior, in the sense of potentially calling out someone who would take offense at the representation. It's in that later sense that there's a suggestion of troll behavior.
