LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING YOU F#!$ING DOUCHEBAGS!!!
Amen!
@Freehold DM,
How would you have any idea what I look like? Oh the time I had my hair cut and sent to Locks of Love.
none whatsoever, but with a name for like silverhair I automatically think of wizards.
Not to get political or anything, but
Let's just say you've seen plenty of disagreement on how much that would help/hinder and whether the costs and tradeoffs are worth the benefits already and not even let that particular firepit start burning.
I like my fires but not that kind of fire.
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I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
During that decade, the cost of going to college has greatly outpaced inflation.
My wife and I are feeling the pain. Thankfully, our son earned a scholarship to the school he's enrolled at, but it doesn't pay for everything.
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I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
Oh, it wouldn't surprise me.
"If you're living on campus you MUST have a meal plan."
"But it's cheaper to buy food that tastes bet-"
"MUST"
"Ok, fine, but I'm letting my friend use some of my-"
"NO ONLY FOR YOU"
"So, you've already taken a computer course. Good. You'll need to take another."
"But they cover the same thing."
"No, see that one focused on BUSINESS. This one focuses on EDUCATION."
"But I already know how to make powerpoints, it doesn't matter that I changed majors."
"Nope, class is required!"
Oh, and then there's the part where their go-to source for "Um, hi, I need to get a student loan" is Sallie Mae...
I believe we had similar experiences in the first taste department.I have no problem with giving kids alcohol- instead of mystifying it for them, let them have a taste. My first taste of beer went poorly when I discovered it tasted nothing like the apple juice I thought it was. My dad just smirked and said something to the effect of "It tastes better when you're 21."Surprisingly, I have yet to give my boy a taste of beer. Maybe when he's three.....Personally, I think I'll just celebrate my boy. He's so cool.No rum or cider for the boy, though. Pretty sure pre-teens can only have aquavit and Foster's.
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Oh, and then there's the part where their go-to source for "Um, hi, I need to get a student loan" is Sallie Mae...
Just found out I'm getting kicked out of my apartment a week earlier than the housing office originally told me. I need to pack all of my belongings and move over the course of today and tomorrow, or risk incurring a fine of several hundred dollars. On top of that, one of my best friends found that she suddenly has to move across the country. When it rains, it sure as hell f&+~ing rains.Sorry to hear that Shiny. Positive waves, dude.
+1 positive waves
Just found out I'm getting kicked out of my apartment a week earlier than the housing office originally told me. I need to pack all of my belongings and move over the course of today and tomorrow, or risk incurring a fine of several hundred dollars. On top of that, one of my best friends found that she suddenly has to move across the country. When it rains, it sure as hell f@&!ing rains.
I'm sorry shiny. This well and truly sucks.
Freehold DM, A group of previous players gave me that nickname because of my gray hair. So it just kind of stuck. If you glance through my past posts you should find a Flickr link to some pics before and after having my hair cut.
Just found out I'm getting kicked out of my apartment a week earlier than the housing office originally told me. I need to pack all of my belongings and move over the course of today and tomorrow, or risk incurring a fine of several hundred dollars. On top of that, one of my best friends found that she suddenly has to move across the country. When it rains, it sure as hell f&+~ing rains.Sorry to hear that Shiny. Positive waves, dude.
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In less controversial opining, that's gotta hurt! (Here's hoping they don't change the field hockey picture.)
I've been using the same avatar since 2006. Some things simply cannot be improved upon.I don't recall where or who suggested this band but I could bless for guiding me to them. I am a great fan of Celtic and Pagan music.Who is this stranger in our...oh! Hey! You changed avatars! Is that allowed?!?
I've been using the same one since inception. I don't even know why I chose this one, but I have a hard time contemplating finding another one to replace it. It seems so alienating.
I've been using the same one since inception. I don't even know why I chose this one, but I have a hard time contemplating finding another one to replace it. It seems so alienating.I've been using the same avatar since 2006. Some things simply cannot be improved upon.I don't recall where or who suggested this band but I could bless for guiding me to them. I am a great fan of Celtic and Pagan music.Who is this stranger in our...oh! Hey! You changed avatars! Is that allowed?!?
Same here; I've used this one from day one.
In less controversial opining, that's gotta hurt! (Here's hoping they don't change the field hockey picture.)
Reminds me of a time in the early 90's where I was playing "street hockey" in a tennis court. Someone high-checked their stick and caught me right in the face.
Hard.
My nose started bleeding.
I lost consciousness.
Fell like a sack of potatoes.
Haven't played since.
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I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
During that decade, the cost of going to college has greatly outpaced inflation.
My wife and I are feeling the pain. Thankfully, our son earned a scholarship to the school he's enrolled at, but it doesn't pay for everything.
Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
During that decade, the cost of going to college has greatly outpaced inflation.
My wife and I are feeling the pain. Thankfully, our son earned a scholarship to the school he's enrolled at, but it doesn't pay for everything.
Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
Ouch!
I sent my daughter to college at 17, and she basically handled her own budget. Fortunately she had a bit more preparation. We went with an off campus apartment for her too.
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I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.
In less controversial opining, that's gotta hurt! (Here's hoping they don't change the field hockey picture.)Reminds me of a time in the early 90's where I was playing "street hockey" in a tennis court. Someone high-checked their stick and caught me right in the face.
Hard.
My nose started bleeding.
I lost consciousness.
Fell like a sack of potatoes.
Haven't played since.
Ouch! A lot!
(Was there alcohol involved?)
I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.
That bites. I can't even stand apartments any more. The last time I lived in any kind of institutional housing goes back to Korea in '86.
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I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
During that decade, the cost of going to college has greatly outpaced inflation.
My wife and I are feeling the pain. Thankfully, our son earned a scholarship to the school he's enrolled at, but it doesn't pay for everything.
Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
I had to earn a full-ride scholarship for tuition and I spent most of my senior year hunting down grants and scholarships to pay for room and board. My parents talked me into staying on their tax records so they could get the tax break off of me, and even though they had a huge debt-to-earnings ratio, my dad earned enough money to ensure I wouldn't get federal aid.
My wife had two older siblings who completely f&!!ed up their college careers while simultaneously draining her parents' funds, meaning she had to get a scholarship on her own. My wife's mother was "nice" enough to tell her that she wouldn't last a semester.
So, yeah, we're making sure we're more supportive emotionally and financially for our children.
In less controversial opining, that's gotta hurt! (Here's hoping they don't change the field hockey picture.)Reminds me of a time in the early 90's where I was playing "street hockey" in a tennis court. Someone high-checked their stick and caught me right in the face.
Hard.
My nose started bleeding.
I lost consciousness.
Fell like a sack of potatoes.
Haven't played since.
Ouch! A lot!
(Was there alcohol involved?)
Surprisingly, no.
I wasn't 21 yet at the time, either.
Not that would have curtailed. Ahem.
From my experiences of street hockey, the testosterone is quite enough.
I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.That bites. I can't even stand apartments any more. The last time I lived in any kind of institutional housing goes back to Korea in '86.
I could stand an apartment, mostly because I need very little space to live comfortably, and renting an apartment is cheaper than renting a small house with the extra costs for land, upkeep, taxes....
In less controversial opining, that's gotta hurt! (Here's hoping they don't change the field hockey picture.)Reminds me of a time in the early 90's where I was playing "street hockey" in a tennis court. Someone high-checked their stick and caught me right in the face.
Hard.
My nose started bleeding.
I lost consciousness.
Fell like a sack of potatoes.
Haven't played since.
Ouch! A lot!
(Was there alcohol involved?)
Surprisingly, no.
I wasn't 21 yet at the time, either.
Not that would have curtailed. Ahem.
I don't recall being under 21 being much of a barrier when I was growing up in West Texas.
I could stand an apartment, mostly because I need very little space to live comfortably, and renting an apartment is cheaper than renting a small house with the extra costs for land, upkeep, taxes....I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.That bites. I can't even stand apartments any more. The last time I lived in any kind of institutional housing goes back to Korea in '86.
For me the issue is not mainly square footage. I just couldn't stand the restrictions of apartment or condo life. Living on top of other people is not for me. I like my little house in my little cul de sac.
I wouldn't mind a more remote location though.
Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
Are you my long lost sister? This sounds eerily familiar, although my father did eventually agree to help pay for room and board if I agreed to go to a school he thought had good potential for hooking me up with a wealthy husband. (He was horribly disappointed when I graduated with honors and a scholarship for grad school, but with no wedding ring.)
I could stand an apartment, mostly because I need very little space to live comfortably, and renting an apartment is cheaper than renting a small house with the extra costs for land, upkeep, taxes....I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.That bites. I can't even stand apartments any more. The last time I lived in any kind of institutional housing goes back to Korea in '86.For me the issue is not mainly square footage. I just couldn't stand the restrictions of apartment or condo life. Living on top of other people is not for me. I like my little house in my little cul de sac.
I wouldn't mind a more remote location though.
Yeah, if cost weren't an issue I'd be well out in the country. I like space and the longer I live in an urban region the more I dislike it. Too many people crammed into too small a space.
I've been using the same one since inception. I don't even know why I chose this one, but I have a hard time contemplating finding another one to replace it. It seems so alienating.I've been using the same avatar since 2006. Some things simply cannot be improved upon.I don't recall where or who suggested this band but I could bless for guiding me to them. I am a great fan of Celtic and Pagan music.Who is this stranger in our...oh! Hey! You changed avatars! Is that allowed?!?
I just like naked women with swords. Unless Paizo starts allowing us to create our own avatars (I'd consider paying for the privilege), I'm keeping this one.
I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.
every time I hear your story, it angers me. I feel your parents were incredibly unfair, probably because my mom did something similar which resulted I a lot of tears and heartache. I certain will do what I can to avoid repeating her mistakes.
I could stand an apartment, mostly because I need very little space to live comfortably, and renting an apartment is cheaper than renting a small house with the extra costs for land, upkeep, taxes....I wanted an off campus apartment badly - the money the school provided for room and board could move off campus, and I had another girl lined up as a roommate with the same scholarship. We would have saved so much money. But I had no credit history, and my parents wouldn't cosign the lease. So...there it is.That bites. I can't even stand apartments any more. The last time I lived in any kind of institutional housing goes back to Korea in '86.For me the issue is not mainly square footage. I just couldn't stand the restrictions of apartment or condo life. Living on top of other people is not for me. I like my little house in my little cul de sac.
I wouldn't mind a more remote location though.
huh. Weird.
Are you my long lost sister? This sounds eerily familiar, although my father did eventually agree to help pay for room and board if I agreed to go to a school he thought had good potential for hooking me up with a wealthy husband. (He was horribly disappointed when I graduated with honors and a scholarship for grad school, but with no wedding ring.)Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
I am sure I will have issues with whomever my daughter decides to settle down with, but I would not seek to control/restrict her choices in that fashion.
Yeah, my parents basically expected me to pay for everything for college myself too. They filled out the FAFSA and contributed like two hundred dollars and that was it. The real kicker for me is that they paid for my sisters schooling. :(
I am sure I will have issues with whomever my daughter decides to settle down with, but I would not seek to control/restrict her choices in that fashion.Are you my long lost sister? This sounds eerily familiar, although my father did eventually agree to help pay for room and board if I agreed to go to a school he thought had good potential for hooking me up with a wealthy husband. (He was horribly disappointed when I graduated with honors and a scholarship for grad school, but with no wedding ring.)Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
Eh, it all worked out in the end. I got an excellent education and a successful career out of the deal, and I've long since come to terms with the fact that I'm a terrible disappointment to my father.
It's taken me a little longer to accept the fact that other women actually have fathers who *aren't* abusive, bigoted, misogynist crapweasels, but I feel much better about the world now that I've realized this. So, thank you for being one of those non-crapweaselly dads. :) You give me hope.
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Are you my long lost sister? This sounds eerily familiar, although my father did eventually agree to help pay for room and board if I agreed to go to a school he thought had good potential for hooking me up with a wealthy husband. (He was horribly disappointed when I graduated with honors and a scholarship for grad school, but with no wedding ring.)
Well, thank goodness I was the oldest - my dad had enough pride wrapped up in me as the oldest child that he always encouraged me academically. My childhood was full of encouragement to do well in school and focus on academic accomplishment. Then I hit puberty, and the only thing I heard from Dad suddenly was "Why don't you use makeup? Why aren't you prettier? Why don't you do something nice with your hair? Why don't you like skirts?" insterspersed with "Don't read that book, it's stupid, women can't be heroes!" It was pretty traumatic and confusing, I must say. It was too late, however, he'd already made me pretty independent and stubborn in my young childhood. I think if one of my brothers had been born first, I would've been ignored as a child, and been a VERY different person today, for good or ill.
When I get really mad about what my father pulled on me, though, I remember his parents, and realize that, as much as he hurt me, he was a big improvement on what his parents put his sisters through. When one was living about 5 miles from them and being beaten regularly by her husband for not being "Christian enough", Grandma and Grandpa would let the kids stay with them "when things got bad", but did nothing to put a stop to it or help her. We moved into the area when I was a young teen, and my Dad helped his sister and her son report the most recent beating to the police, while Mom chased my uncle out of his own yard when he tried to come home to the other kids after the beating. Grandma and Grandpa, on the other hand, suggested counseling for my aunt with a pastor that told her she was a bad Christian woman for not submitting to her husband's demands to have a 6th child...
So, Dad screwed stuff up, but damn, he was a huge improvement on what could have been if he'd actually taken his parents' attitudes to heart instead of just being shaped by them because he grew up under them.
Yeah, my parents basically expected me to pay for everything for college myself too. They filled out the FAFSA and contributed like two hundred dollars and that was it. The real kicker for me is that they paid for my sisters schooling. :(
Know that feeling. It's annoying even knowing that they just didn't have it when my turn came up and that my sister only went about a semester to community college.
When I get really mad about what my father pulled on me, though, I remember his parents, and realize that, as much as he hurt me, he was a big improvement on what his parents put his sisters through. When one was living about 5 miles from them and being beaten regularly by her husband for not being "Christian enough", Grandma and Grandpa would let the kids stay with them "when things got bad", but did nothing to put a stop to it or help her. We moved into the area when I was a young teen, and my Dad helped his sister and her son report the most recent beating to the police, while Mom chased my uncle out of his own yard when he tried to come home to the other kids after the beating. Grandma and Grandpa, on the other hand, suggested counseling for my aunt with a pastor that told her she was a bad Christian woman for not...
It's things like this that give the rest of us religious people a bad name.
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Yeah, my parents basically expected me to pay for everything for college myself too. They filled out the FAFSA and contributed like two hundred dollars and that was it. The real kicker for me is that they paid for my sisters schooling. :(
Yeah, my middle brother and I went to the university, on the same scholarship, for the same major. And my parents were resigned to filling out the FAFSA at that point, thank goodness.
For the youngest son, they cosigned on private university out of state tuition....
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Yeah.
This song makes me want red beans and rice Steely Dan pearl of the quarter.
Man. While I have things to complain about with my parents, they are immensely tiny compared to some of these horror stories.
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I've come to believe that, for the most part, many aspects of college seem to be "how much can we rip off our students and/or their parents".
Maybe I'm wrong, though. It's been over a decade since I've had to deal directly with that crap.
During that decade, the cost of going to college has greatly outpaced inflation.
My wife and I are feeling the pain. Thankfully, our son earned a scholarship to the school he's enrolled at, but it doesn't pay for everything.
Dude, I got a scholarship that DID pay for everything, and had to work to afford the taxes on it. O.o
Good thing I did. My parents wouldn't allow me to work in high school, wouldn't pay anything for college and wouldn't cosign any loans. I graduated with no money and no work history and no credit history, and was supposed to figure it all out in a month. Hell, I had to resort to tears to get my parents to fill out the FAFSA form!
Sorry you had such a miserable time.
No aliens coming out of a ceiling fan?