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G'day mates.

Nice and breezy today, eh?


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TOZ wrote:
Powergamers. Powergamers everywhere. :)

I have zero problems with being considered a powergamer in console RPGs. Probably comes from the majority of such that I didn't finish being due to hitting a progression wall in the form of a boss I couldn't beat or an area where the random encounters jumped up in difficulty.

Granted, between knowing where to find guides and years of just becoming more savvy at CRPG tropes and expectations, I know my way around much better these days. When I first played FFVI, I didn't really understand how to train magic and just passed Magicite around and ended up with a gang of characters with lots of incomplete spells in their rosters. Ditto in FFIX - I'd upgrade a weapon/armor/etc. without waiting for its special ability to be finished being learned, and quite often sell it without thinking of still needing it for ability teaching. Nowadays I know better.

Looking back, it's kind of surprising how well I made it through CT on the first try. (Though CT admittedly doesn't have a lot of those teaching/learning subsystems - the characters just have their limited repertoire of abilities, plus the triple techs unlocked by equipping certain items.)


What console is FFVI on? I might just play it.


SNES (as FF III), PS 1 (coupled with FFV as FF Anthology), Gameboy Advance, and Virtual Console on the Wii (as FF III).


Ahhh...


Yep. The majority of my favorite games are from the SNES-PS1-early PS2 era, with a few latecomers in recent handheld consoles. I just haven't been impressed by the latest FF games, and non-RPGs generally don't interest me outside of a few platformers (I do really want to play the Mario Galaxy games, for example).

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Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

Hah, no, far from it. =) VI is actually my favorite FF period, followed by IX, then V and IV, and is only second to Chrono Trigger in being my favorite game ever. I've played it many times before.

This is just the first time I've played it with actually knowing what to do with Gau, rather than just sticking him somewhere I wouldn't have to ever use him for the entire game. It's changed him from a character who I pretty much couldn't stand to one of my most efficient party members (really at this point only second to Edgar, Terra, and Celes, and in some cases beating even them).

And 100% with you on the guides thing. That and there's so many hidden things in the game that I always missed out on - items in pots/boxes/etc. - that I never knew of before looking at one.

Ah, cool. IX is also up there on my list, but never actually played IV. Chrono Trigger's another great one. Ever played the Breath of Fire series? It and Wild Arms were my first CRPG's, and really hooked me into the genre.

There's some things in games that I never figured out how you're supposed to discover them without a guide to direct/explain.


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FFIV has the notable honor of being the first FF I actually beat. I played both VI and IX before it, but got stuck at one point or another that I couldn't pass. (IX was on the final boss >_< stupid Grand Cross!) IV I managed to play all the way to the end and finish. Only later did I go back and complete the others.

I can't remember if Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars was the first RPG I beat, as I played them both around the same time. I didn't get into Final Fantasy games until a bit later.

I played a bit of Breath of Fire 3, but never got very far on it. I have the first two on SNES, just never got around to playing them. Wild Arms I need to look into, I've heard good things but never took the time to try it out.

I'll put all of them on The List =) Along with the Romancing SaGa games and Bravely Default, and finishing the Mario & Luigi RPG series.

Re: Guides and hidden items - I think there's some things game designers put in games specifically to award players who try the "click on EVERYTHING" method of treasure acquisition. Some of the hiding places make sense - like the Elixirs in every clock in FFVI, or stuff hidden in boxes and pots - but stuff just hidden in blank spaces that if you happen to be in the right place and search... yeah, don't see how anyone found out about those without either random luck or hacking the game.

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Orthos wrote:

FFIV has the notable honor of being the first FF I actually beat. I played both VI and IX before it, but got stuck at one point or another that I couldn't pass. (IX was on the final boss >_< stupid Grand Cross!) IV I managed to play all the way to the end and finish. Only later did I go back and complete the others.

I can't remember if Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars was the first RPG I beat, as I played them both around the same time. I didn't get into Final Fantasy games until a bit later.

I played a bit of Breath of Fire 3, but never got very far on it. I have the first two on SNES, just never got around to playing them. Wild Arms I need to look into, I've heard good things but never took the time to try it out.

I'll put all of them on The List =) Along with the Romancing SaGa games and Bravely Default, and finishing the Mario & Luigi RPG series.

Re: Guides and hidden items - I think there's some things game designers put in games specifically to award players who try the "click on EVERYTHING" method of treasure acquisition. Some of the hiding places make sense - like the Elixirs in every clock in FFVI, or stuff hidden in boxes and pots - but stuff just hidden in blank spaces that if you happen to be in the right place and search... yeah, don't see how anyone found out about those without either random luck or hacking the game.

VII holds that honour for me, though the save file time-stamp did go up to 99:99:99 in big red letters. :P Got stuck on a hidden boss and wound up grinding for ages. I think Grand Cross glitched for me.

Spoiler:
He did some big move and killed two of my party in the first round. Sent Vivi into Trance though, which never ended, and apparently made him immune to all of GC's moves, for some reason. It was an odd fight.

Super Mario was brilliant, but I ended up playing it on an emulator long after its time. BoF 3 is my favourite of the series, I'd definitely play it again, given the time. WA was really good, but you want one of the originals. The later ones weren't as good (seems to be a trend in a lot of CRPG's :P ).

Is it just me or do these kinds of lists tend to just get longer and longer rather than shorter? :P

It's left me with a habit of doing exactly that, clicking on everything. Which invariably, and significantly, increased the amount of time it took me to play through big, open world games. It's part of what got me into using guides, just to cut down on the amount of time I sunk into searching every nook and cranny.


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Yeah, I know the feeling of picking up games after their time; I didn't get heavily into RPGs until I was in college, well after the heyday of SNES had come to an end. Thank goodness for that and for Virtual Console - picking up a Wii/Wii U sometime after I move is on my list, both for that and for the fact that I have a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles that I can't currently play.

Can't say I ever ran into that glitch.

And yes, that list has gotten quite long for me =) Off the top of my head it includes Final Fantasy II and III (by Japanese numbering - they're the only ones in the entire series I've never touched. I have Dawn of Souls with I and II somewhere, and got III on Steam), FFIV's sequel, the three Mario & Luigi games, all (three? four?) Paper Mario games, all three Romancing SaGa games plus SaGa Frontier, Bravely Default, Xenoblade, and now the (five?) BoF games and however many Wild Arms there are that are worth playing. And I'm sure there's some I have that I've forgotten now, as well as others I'll suddenly feel like replaying at some point, like the Terranigma playthrough I started last year and never got back to picking back up.

And that's not even considering all the non-video game stuff I want to spend time on, like certain books I want to get read, or catching up on the 2 seasons of Doctor Who I haven't yet seen, or writing my own stories and/or my collab project with Scint, or prepping for Pathfinder games.

The "Click ALL the things!" syndrome I've never had time for, but I'm a sucker for world exploration. That was my favorite part of World of Warcraft, actually, was running around and finding all the remote, extreme parts of the world and getting all the Exploration-based rewards. I think I had the Explorer title on all my characters by the time I quit.


FF I - VI & X2 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!


LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?


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SaGa series 4 life!!!!!

Aaaah! Foaming at the mouth fantacism! Fuungaaaaahhhhhh!


Yeah, Lord Synos is apparently one of those, your know... FFVII fans...

Spoiler:
I found it to be nice decent game that was fun but without explosions and fanfares. I played it a lot after its time and it crashed when Shinara released something from the glacier in icy mountains that I just passed.


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I've never actually finished VII, though I watched my brother play through nearly to the end so I'm fairly aware of everything that goes on in the game. My own copy on Steam hasn't even left the first city yet, because I keep finding other games I want to play more.

I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.

There's just something about the older-style games that attracts me to them more than the newer ones. IX gets in because of its deliberate callback-to-the-old-games style. It's also why Bravely Default has me so interested - it's been compared favorably to FFV with its job system, which I really like, and the music is brilliant.

Still, I prefer VII over the PS2/3-era ones. X was okay, though I never got past Yunalesca. Never played X-2. The MMOs are likewise not on my radar.

I liked XII at the start, but it belonged to my roommate and I never got to play much so I have no idea if I'd have enjoyed it in the long run. Balthier is up there among my favorite video game characters ever just on his own, however. Plus it's set in the same world as Tactics, Ivalice, which is cool.

I just really... really couldn't get interested in XIII. At all. The characters were uninteresting, the plot was meh, and the setting seemed dull. Maybe I just didn't play it enough, though.

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Orthos wrote:
SNES (as FF III), PS 1 (coupled with FFV as FF Anthology), Gameboy Advance, and Virtual Console on the Wii (as FF III).

I own them all.


That's it. I'm giving emulating on my phone another go. I need to play some SaGa!


Playing ffl now. SaGa FOREVER!

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I think they put FFVI on mobile too, didn't they? That might be the first version I don't buy.


Yep, as they also did with III, IV, and V. Possibly also IV: After Years, but can't look it up right now. I'll be getting a smartphone in September when my current contract ends, so I might snag them on there, as well.

Shadow Lodge

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Orthos wrote:
TOZ wrote:
Powergamers. Powergamers everywhere. :)
I have zero problems with being considered a powergamer in console RPGs. Probably comes from the majority of such that I didn't finish being due to hitting a progression wall in the form of a boss I couldn't beat or an area where the random encounters jumped up in difficulty.

If it helps, imagine my post being overlaid on this image. :)

I don't have time to be hardcore about my video gaming anymore. :(


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Whoever built the house that I just spent five days working on is an idiot, or possibly allergic to straight lines. After ripping out two walls and putting up some new drywall, I noticed that all of my work looked crooked. After some close examination, I realized that, in fact, my work was the only thing straight about the whole damn basement. I had to re-do half the patch job so that it matched the crookedness of everything else. Also, I noticed that the baseboard molding in most of the house was only nailed up on the ends. F@~$ing amateurs.


On the plus side, most of Saturday was spent staggering around Plattsburgh, New York with two very drunk Irish-American brothers and their even more intoxicated Kazakh friend, partly attempting to get women to pay attention to us, but mostly just talking about D&D and alcohol, so the week wasn't all bad. Parts of it, however, were entirely wasted.


David M Mallon wrote:
Whoever built the house that I just spent five days working on is an idiot, or possibly allergic to straight lines. After ripping out two walls and putting up some new drywall, I noticed that all of my work looked crooked. After some close examination, I realized that, in fact, my work was the only thing straight about the whole damn basement. I had to re-do half the patch job so that it matched the crookedness of everything else. Also, I noticed that the baseboard molding in most of the house was only nailed up on the ends. F#+&ing amateurs.

Is this going to be a structural issue at any point later?

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Oh Oracles of FF how does one defeat Neo-Exdeath easily? Got him down approx. 26700. G$#*#*n Grand Cross!


Guh.

The vast majority of my students are great. And then there are the vocal minority.

The very, very, very vocal minority.

Shadow Lodge

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Scintillae wrote:

Guh.

The vast majority of my students are great. And then there are the vocal minority.

The very, very, very vocal minority.

Whoa! Rough school. They sucked all of the color out of your avatar and stole your glasses. I hope it gets better quick. ;-)


Cr500cricket wrote:
Oh Oracles of FF how does one defeat Neo-Exdeath easily? Got him down approx. 26700. G%%~+~n Grand Cross!

Okay. Here's the methods I used.

Step 1: Setup.
Prior to the battle, you're going to want people with the following abilities, preferably Mastered, with most of the options purchased/acquired - Black Mage, White Mage, Blue Mage, Ninja, Samurai, Summoner, Time Mage. The main reason you want these is so you have access to lots of magic, the Dual-Wield and Throw abilities from Ninja, and the GilToss/Zeninage ability from Samurai.

Other jobs are good to have, but if you have to go with just a few, those are my recommendations.

Make sure your Blue Mage can cast Big Guard. If they don't have it, here's how to get it:

Big Guard:
You need someone who can learn Blue Magic (someone using the Blue Mage class, or equipped with the "Learning" skill) and someone who can use the Trainer/Beastmaster's "Control" ability.

In the main map of the Merged World, fly to where Walse/Worus Tower used to be before it sank, land in boat form, and surf around a bit. You're looking for an enemy called Stingray - it's a fairly rare encounter so don't worry too much if it doesn't show up immediately, you have to be a bit persistent. When you find it, have your Trainer/Beastmaster Control it while everyone else Defends. Keep trying until you get control of it. Once you do control it, have it cast Big Guard on the party. Then kill it. Voila, new Blue Spell learned!

Also, equip every single Ribbon you have. Hopefully you have some. This is why you want to have those classes Mastered - only Dancers and Freelancers (aka No Job) can wear Ribbons.

Step 2: ExDeath giant tree fight.
This fight's pretty easy, all things considered. Just wail on him. Have your physical attackers attack (hopefully they're dual-wielding), your Black Mage cast Flare, your White Mage cast Holy or heal, Summoner use Bahamut, Thrower toss some of your unused weapons, use GilToss, etc. etc. etc.

However, perhaps most importantly, you need to cast two spells before the fight ends. Your Blue Mage needs to cast Big Guard, and your Time Mage needs to cast Fast2. This will up everyone's physical and magical defenses and give everyone Float and Haste.

Step 3: Neo-ExDeath.
Neo-ExDeath has four parts:
The grey-skinned humanoid figure with horns is the "Front".
The wolf-thing in the middle with the red flesh around it is the "Top".
The skull along its bottom is the "Middle".
And the two skeletons in the rear is the "Back".

The "Top" casts Grand Cross whenever Neo-ExDeath says "The Laws of the Universe are Meaningless".
The "Bottom" casts Almagest, a really nasty damage-dealing spell that also might paralyze, whenever Neo-ExDeath starts shaking.
If only one part is left, it casts Meteo every round.

So here's what I recommend:
> Ignore the "Front". It only uses physical attacks.
> Target the "Top" first. Grand Cross can ruin your day. Throw everything you have at it - powerful single-target spells like Holy and Flare, Summons like Bahamut, Throw weapons (if you throw Excalipoor, it deals 9999 damage), use GilToss, etc. Throw absolutely everything you have at that Top section.
> Target the "Bottom" next. Almagest is a nasty spell, but between Big Guard and Ribbons, it will hurt significantly less.
> Once those two parts are gone, you can kill the "Back" portion instantly by summoning Odin using the Magic Lamp. It ONLY works using the Lamp - trying to have a Summoner summon him just has him use his spear attack rather than his one-hit kill.
> Resume throwing absolutely everything you have at the last remaining section. Throw every weapon in your inventory. Burn through all your MP casting the best spells you have. Have your heavy hitters smack the daylights out of it. Big Guard should eat up most of the Meteo, but have a healer on standby just in case.

Best of luck!

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Orthos wrote:

Yeah, I know the feeling of picking up games after their time; I didn't get heavily into RPGs until I was in college, well after the heyday of SNES had come to an end. Thank goodness for that and for Virtual Console - picking up a Wii/Wii U sometime after I move is on my list, both for that and for the fact that I have a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles that I can't currently play.

Can't say I ever ran into that glitch.

And yes, that list has gotten quite long for me =) Off the top of my head it includes Final Fantasy II and III (by Japanese numbering - they're the only ones in the entire series I've never touched. I have Dawn of Souls with I and II somewhere, and got III on Steam), FFIV's sequel, the three Mario & Luigi games, all (three? four?) Paper Mario games, all three Romancing SaGa games plus SaGa Frontier, Bravely Default, Xenoblade, and now the (five?) BoF games and however many Wild Arms there are that are worth playing. And I'm sure there's some I have that I've forgotten now, as well as others I'll suddenly feel like replaying at some point, like the Terranigma playthrough I started last year and never got back to picking back up.

And that's not even considering all the non-video game stuff I want to spend time on, like certain books I want to get read, or catching up on the 2 seasons of Doctor Who I haven't yet seen, or writing my own stories and/or my collab project with Scint, or prepping for Pathfinder games.

The "Click ALL the things!" syndrome I've never had time for, but I'm a sucker for world exploration. That was my favorite part of World of Warcraft, actually, was running around and finding all the remote, extreme parts of the world and getting all the Exploration-based rewards. I think I had the Explorer title on all my characters by the time I quit.

I played some of the Playstation ones, FF and BoF before college, but the diversity of people college brought also introduced me to much more variety of RPG's, including TTRPG's. College and emulators, they sure have their uses. xD

A fair auld list, especially considering the length of those JRPG's. What's Terranigma btw? Never heard of it.

Yeah, world exploration can be great. I'm the closest of my group of friends to getting the account award from having 100% exploration in Guild Wars 2. The only reason I stopped was because apparently the PvP parts of the map are also needed for the 100%. T.T

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Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?

Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VII? The greatest video computer-game of all time?

;)

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Orthos wrote:
I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.

And you're better off for it. :P

More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.


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LordSynos wrote:
Orthos wrote:
I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.

And you're better off for it. :P

More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.

Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.

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What's Terranigma btw? Never heard of it.

It's an Enix game that's sort of a spiritual successor to Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. It was never released outside Japan, so you have to make do with (very good, IMO) fan translations. Further info here (but spoilers, obviously).


LordSynos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?

Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VI? The greatest video computer-game of all time?

;)

FIFY


Scintillae wrote:

Guh.

The vast majority of my students are great. And then there are the vocal minority.

The very, very, very vocal minority.

I see my clone minions have made their way to your school. Excellent.


Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Orthos wrote:
I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.

And you're better off for it. :P

More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.

Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.

Quote:
What's Terranigma btw? Never heard of it.
It's an Enix game that's sort of a spiritual successor to Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. It was never released outside Japan, so you have to make do with (very good, IMO) fan translations. Further info here (but spoilers, obviously).

You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?

Her arrival was foretold.


Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?

Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VI? The greatest video computer-game of all time?

;)

FIFY

Nobody likes FIFY dude. Nobody.

Silver Crusade

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Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?

Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VI? The greatest video computer-game of all time?

;)

FIFY
Everybody likes FIFY dude. Everybody.

FIFY


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Orthos wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Whoever built the house that I just spent five days working on is an idiot, or possibly allergic to straight lines. After ripping out two walls and putting up some new drywall, I noticed that all of my work looked crooked. After some close examination, I realized that, in fact, my work was the only thing straight about the whole damn basement. I had to re-do half the patch job so that it matched the crookedness of everything else. Also, I noticed that the baseboard molding in most of the house was only nailed up on the ends. F#+&ing amateurs.
Is this going to be a structural issue at any point later?

Nope, the whole thing is solid as a rock. Everything's just in varying degrees of off-kilter-ness.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Orthos wrote:
I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.

And you're better off for it. :P

More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.

Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.

Quote:
What's Terranigma btw? Never heard of it.
It's an Enix game that's sort of a spiritual successor to Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. It was never released outside Japan, so you have to make do with (very good, IMO) fan translations. Further info here (but spoilers, obviously).

You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?

Her arrival was foretold.

And FFX, X-2, and XII. I know, I'm a heretic. I have FFVII on Steam but can't seem to get into the story.


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LordSynos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P

Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.

0.0

Say wha?

Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VII? The greatest video computer-game of all time?

;)

No. Nononono.

Baldur's Gate and BG2 remain my favorites.


I loved FFVII, but never got the chance to finish it. I got really close 5 times, but twice my computer crashed and I lost my saves, once my roommate at the time "accidentally" deleted my save, and then when I tried it on the PlayStation I lost the memory card. I have beaten 1, 2, and 3 (as they were released here, I'm not sure of the Japanese numbering). I also beat one on the SNES that I think was called Final Fantasy Tactics, but I'm not sure of the name. I know I didn't really care for it because it was too easy and incorporated some platforming elements. Also, I don't think there were any truly random encounters. You could see the enemies walking around the map and could avoid most of them.

Now I kind of want to get my NES and SNES from my parents and play some of those old games again, but I've been replaying Skyrim and don't want to stop that. Although maybe I should proceed along the main quest a little more in Skyrim. I haven't retrieved the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller (or whatever) for the Greybeards yet , and I'm already level 40 or 41.

Grand Lodge

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You're thinking of Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.


David M Mallon wrote:
Orthos wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Whoever built the house that I just spent five days working on is an idiot, or possibly allergic to straight lines. After ripping out two walls and putting up some new drywall, I noticed that all of my work looked crooked. After some close examination, I realized that, in fact, my work was the only thing straight about the whole damn basement. I had to re-do half the patch job so that it matched the crookedness of everything else. Also, I noticed that the baseboard molding in most of the house was only nailed up on the ends. F#+&ing amateurs.
Is this going to be a structural issue at any point later?
Nope, the whole thing is solid as a rock. Everything's just in varying degrees of off-kilter-ness.

Well, that's something, at least.

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Orthos wrote:
Cr500cricket wrote:
Oh Oracles of FF how does one defeat Neo-Exdeath easily? Got him down approx. 26700. G%%~+~n Grand Cross!

Okay. Here's the methods I used.

Step 1: Setup.
Prior to the battle, you're going to want people with the following abilities, preferably Mastered, with most of the options purchased/acquired - Black Mage, White Mage, Blue Mage, Ninja, Samurai, Summoner, Time Mage. The main reason you want these is so you have access to lots of magic, the Dual-Wield and Throw abilities from Ninja, and the GilToss/Zeninage ability from Samurai.

Other jobs are good to have, but if you have to go with just a few, those are my recommendations.

Make sure your Blue Mage can cast Big Guard. If they don't have it, here's how to get it:
** spoiler omitted **

Also, equip every single Ribbon you have. Hopefully you have some. This is why you want to have those classes Mastered - only Dancers and Freelancers (aka No Job) can wear Ribbons.

Step 2: ExDeath giant tree fight.
This fight's pretty easy, all things considered. Just wail on him. Have your physical attackers attack (hopefully they're dual-wielding), your Black Mage cast Flare, your White Mage cast Holy or heal,...

GG Neo Exdeath is put to death with my lvl 39 party.


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Curse my completionism! Allow me to pause the plot a moment not only to go hunt down yet more new Rages, but also teach all the party members who didn't go on the trip to Vector the shiny new Magic we got.


Cr500cricket wrote:
GG Neo Exdeath is put to death with my lvl 39 party.

Huzzah! Gratz on the relatively low-level game.

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Orthos wrote:
Cr500cricket wrote:
GG Neo Exdeath is put to death with my lvl 39 party.
Huzzah! Gratz on the relatively low-level game.

Thanks for the help. Once Grand cross was out of the picture, the rest fell like dominoes.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
You're thinking of Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.

That does sound right. Mostly I just remember it being super easy and boring, so I sold it to a friend who thought 2 and 3 were too complicated.


What I am doing awake so early on a week of evening shift? It isn't even 10...


Ah, I missed out on the Final Fantasy talk. Oh well!

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