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Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
Soooo... THAT is why all you Muricans think leftist policy is such a great thing??? Because you don't know what happened after 1950? I mean, as a Swede, history seems like a good idea...
I actually thought it was the opposite. I grew up in Texas, you don't get much more right-wing. I didn't recognize it as a kid but it's a,lot more obvious as an adult how things got skipped over, ignored, or revised to avoid anti-conservative messages. For example, we were never taught The Crucible was an allegory for the McCarthy investigations. It was taught to us perfectly straight as-written, a story of Salem-era New England,
Which is frankly irresponsible. Maybe it's the fact that I'm just a history nerd, but I cannot imagine teaching a novel/play without examining its historical context. So much of literature is a product of its times. It's why New Criticism drives me up a tree.

I did that with a short lecture, where I used 3 albums of the Adventures of TinTin ( TinTin in the Congo (both versions), TinTin and the Blue Lotus and Tintin in Tibet , to talk about the portrayal of different ethnic groups in 1930's and 1940's popular culture (aka the portrayal of non-whites and racism in the age of totalitarianism).

To my joy, you could hear peoples toes curl up in their shoes and all the top "left-leaners*" where lined up on the first row of the auditorium.
Really there's really nothing like stepping into a minefield of potential accusations to sharpen the mind and tongue.

Edit: Apparently I did so nude....I don't seem to remember that.
Where's Kile when you finally have something to show off? :P
Wait Sissyl is still here...*Winks at Sissyl*

* Calling these people "left-leaners" is a bit unfair. They were the kind of people, who objected to even having theses kinds of discussions. Simply they viewed the actual scholarly examination of subjects, as that above, as the purview of a select few, who meet their ludicrous standarts.
In short, I don't agree.

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Derp sorry, guess we were straying a bit too far away from, the original education discussion.


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And from Orthos of all people!

Looks vainly for his address.

Wait, Tennessee is a real place! That can't be right...


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Sure.

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Fritzy, Flaming Bike Artillery wrote:

And from Orthos of all people!

Looks vainly for his address.

Wait, Tennessee is a real place! That can't be right...

That is just where my meatsack is. The real me is here on the internet.

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Sissyl wrote:
My interpretation of socialism was from a Polish Jew, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. They all told the same story.

You don't find many of those here. :(


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I believe you. There are a good number here, especially Poles.


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Anyways, take a look at Wikipedia. Soviet, China and Romania. It's fascinating history.


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Yes, I do have a Hercules sleeping bag on my feet while I play video games and watch Cake Wars.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
My interpretation of socialism was from a Polish Jew, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. They all told the same story.
You don't find many of those here. :(

Yea...

Not only that, you don't actually find all that many Non-American people around here. Makes me kind of sad at times, as a lot discussions become a bit Americentric/Americanocentric*.

Then again, I here to live and learn, so it's okay I guess.

*I no sure which is the right one to use here.


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Fritzy! Flaming bikes, full spread!


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
My interpretation of socialism was from a Polish Jew, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. They all told the same story.
You don't find many of those here. :(

where are you? Who is by you?


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I had a crazy dream last night. I was swimming in an ocean of orange soda. Turns out it was just a Fanta sea.


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Scintillae wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Kjeldorn wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Kjeldorn wrote:


Where's the Great Leap Forward?
My lackluster high school history education is showing again, and I can't Google at the moment. What is this?
Mao Zedong's restructuring of China toward a centrally-planned economy. 20 million people starved to death due to insufficient food production.

The numbers of dead from starvations is all over the place. I've seen from around 22-23 million to 45 million. Mostly this seem down to faulty or lack official documentation, the use of local non-verified documentation, loss of documentation or just plain old errors.

Besides those there also was between 2-3 million deaths due to "violence" during said same period. Quite a lot of said violence seems to seem from dissatisfaction with the implementation of the new farming policies (aka roving militias beating the peasants into compliance).

Edit.: I running on memory (and a textbook or two) here. The period I focused my studies on was Medieval Northern Europe, so I'm a bit out of my area of expertise here ^^.

I'm working out of a possibly outdated textbook as well! :D
you are one of the few educators I trust to fill in any gaps.
Kind of you, but I'm serious. Econ textbook is copyright 2003. Thankfully, the class is just hitting basic concepts, and supply and demand haven't changed since Adam Smith, but that means absolutely zero look into more recent economic problems... sigh

as am I. You are unflinching, and can calmly day to a class, "Children, this is b#!&*+~!, and I will explain why later, but here's what the book says..." albeit in a more professional way.

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Freehold DM wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
My interpretation of socialism was from a Polish Jew, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. They all told the same story.
You don't find many of those here. :(
where are you? Who is by you?

Arizona, so mostly Hispanic families.


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Looks like I lost an electron. I should keep a better ion them.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
My interpretation of socialism was from a Polish Jew, a Romanian, and a Hungarian. They all told the same story.
You don't find many of those here. :(
where are you? Who is by you?
Arizona, so mostly Hispanic families.

cool.


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A bunch of aquatic mammals escaped from captivity. It was otter chaos.


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Holiday spirit themes are gradually sapping away my dignity.
sits in the library in a Pikachu hat

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Could hear one of my coworkers in one of the nearby offices getting the third degree from a client.

Spoilered for Religion:
If you're a religious person and want to put your faith to the test, get a job as a bookkeeping accountant at a non-profit and/or church financial focused organization like where I work. If your faith can survive dealing with these people on a daily basis, it can survive anything.

I'm not sure I could do the same. Thankfully my position doesn't involve client interaction, as I'm a data processor, not an accountant.


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See, that's where my ability to play the vapid valley girl comes in handy.

I, like, totally don't have any control over this and junk, so I'm, like, gonna ask my manager.


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I'm told it's very annoying, but for people I don't have to deal with on a daily basis and therefore don't realize it's an act? I've successfully reclassified myself as No-Point-In-Yelling-At...plus I'm clearly too dumb to be insulting them, so they're less suspicious of anything I do say after that.


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Like, smite inconvenience and junk.


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The trick is to toooootally load up your vocabulary with, like, things that might sound complimentary if you don't, like, already know what they mean and junk. It's, like, all in your tone, so if you just push your voice to, like, a higher pitch and start, like, sounding less certain?


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Scintillae wrote:

See, that's where my ability to play the vapid valley girl comes in handy.

I, like, totally don't have any control over this and junk, so I'm, like, gonna ask my manager.

cunning.

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Scintillae wrote:
I'm told it's very annoying, but for people I don't have to deal with on a daily basis and therefore don't realize it's an act? I've successfully reclassified myself as No-Point-In-Yelling-At...plus I'm clearly too dumb to be insulting them, so they're less suspicious of anything I do say after that.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work in our industry. Interacting with these people on a regular basis is a core part of our bookkeepers' jobs. They're the one getting bumped up to, not the ones bumping up.


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It doesn't really work with teaching, either. Parents have cause for concern if their students are being taught by an idiot. Worked great for retail, though.


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I'm pretty sure I'd've gotten fired from your place about seven different times. Mostly tied to my inability to keep my clever mouth shut.

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A bug part of the problem is not being able to tell these people they're being petty, nitpicky, stupid, greedy,selfish idiots and no we can't reclassify that that way because the IRS made rules about these sorts of things godsdammit, for fear of "driving clients away".


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Blackguard of Puns wrote:
I had a crazy dream last night. I was swimming in an ocean of orange soda. Turns out it was just a Fanta sea.

I had a crazy dream last night. I don't remember all of it, but my house was weirdly fused with my parents in different ways.

ANYway.

I was trying to clean it before my parents god there, and then they showed up three days and four hours early for the party they were having on the patio (that correlates to a hybrid of my parents' and my wife's parents'; anyway, the party consisted of about three-to-five other people, though I don't know any of the people I saw in the dream).

My wife disappears with my Mom to talk to her (suddenly my Mom was the only one there) and I'm left trying to clean up quickly what little I can (while mostly leaving the house kind of looking like it did so it's not obvious) and flipping out. Eventually, my Mom and wife come out from the back and my Mom says to me, "I need to talk with you later." and walks out all professional, as I freak out about what it might mean. I go to the microwave to put something in to eat, because I'm starving, and I find something that was left in from last night.

I was mortified.

... no, I'm not doing extra cleaning chores today.

>.>

Q-... quiet, you.


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Orthos wrote:
A bug part of the problem is not being able to tell these people they're being petty, nitpicky, stupid, greedy,selfish idiots and no we can't reclassify that that way because the IRS made rules about these sorts of things godsdammit, for fear of "driving clients away".

its ugly when you have to withhold the truth in the name of keeping your job in a client based industry.


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Orthos wrote:
A bug part of the problem is not being able to tell these people they're being petty, nitpicky, stupid, greedy,selfish idiots and no we can't reclassify that that way because the IRS made rules about these sorts of things godsdammit, for fear of "driving clients away".

Sure you can! That's how I'd get fired.

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Scintillae wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'd've gotten fired from your place about seven different times. Mostly tied to my inability to keep my clever mouth shut.

Oh me too. I've told some of my coworkers as much. It's why I'm glad they don't have me ever using phones for work purposes.


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It all comes from anticipating expectations. Customers, by and large, want to assume the employee with whom they are interacting is an idiot because this explains why said customer is not getting their way and/or allows the customer to treat them in the fashion that makes working retail Hell on Earth. So playing along with that expectation lets them feel that they've gotten their way to some extent, usually meaning they ease off.


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At least that's the theory ten years of retail left me with. People were much more pleasant when I came across as a ditz who somehow managed to function as an employee than when I appeared generally competent.


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Sissyl wrote:
Orthos wrote:

Yeah, the "COMMUNISM BAD" is hammered in at very early ages.

Also the "socialism is just diet communism." I did not know until I was in my late 20s that the two have very little really in common.

As I understand it, socialism is what the communists call their policies. Communism is reserved for the Eternal Happiness of the Perfect Society that Shall Be. When people in communist countries asked why there was no food, the party replied that the country hadn't reached communism yet, so they had to fight even harder to get there, but there would be food for everyone when communism finally made it all worth it.

Social democracy is a different thing.

*Opens mouth*

*Looks to the skies, as Bike Alarm sounds*

*Runs to underground shelter*

*Closes mouth*

*Plays 'Toot Toot Tootsie, Goodbye' on banjo, as an alternative to provoking dreaded Threadlock*

Like this


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I should make a machine that plays music for us!


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Limeylongears wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
Orthos wrote:

Yeah, the "COMMUNISM BAD" is hammered in at very early ages.

Also the "socialism is just diet communism." I did not know until I was in my late 20s that the two have very little really in common.

As I understand it, socialism is what the communists call their policies. Communism is reserved for the Eternal Happiness of the Perfect Society that Shall Be. When people in communist countries asked why there was no food, the party replied that the country hadn't reached communism yet, so they had to fight even harder to get there, but there would be food for everyone when communism finally made it all worth it.

Social democracy is a different thing.

*Opens mouth*

*Looks to the skies, as Bike Alarm sounds*

*Runs to underground shelter*

*Closes mouth*

*Plays 'Toot Toot Tootsie, Goodbye' on banjo, as an alternative to provoking dreaded Threadlock*

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Fritzy, aim for the shelters! Scorch the earth!


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Hm. I haven't really looked into any of the new APs since Iron Gods came out.


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On the one hand, I want to look into seeing if any of them are worth buying because having lots of options is nice. On the other hand, I've got a nice pile of APs that will take me years to get through, given the usual pace of campaigns with my group.

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I like and want to run Strange Aeons, and the two Cheliax APs looked interesting.. Otherwise haven't seen anything to perk interest.


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I do not really like smartphones at all I hate using a touchscreen to enter stuff. Does not help I have memories of since my brother got a smartphone him not paying attention for me gming a game of pahtfinder just for him.

I also really find apple overpriced and I could rant for a long time about android and how the lack of security updates is wrong. I don't like the no gpl in userspace to be in google play... Not that updating old devices makes them money though.


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I feel like the youngest linux luddite ever. Too bad the original podcast is gone but late night linux suceeded them.


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Ironfang Invasion looked neat. I've not heard good things about Hell's Vengeance.


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Ugh. Whyyyyyyyy have I had so little time the last week?!


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'Cause it's only had seven days.


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Scintillae wrote:
Ironfang Invasion looked neat. I've not heard good things about Hell's Vengeance.

GS was better than I thought it would be, but comes with trigger warnings and an expectation that the mass slaughter of giants is not a thing until maybe late book 5 or book 6 (which are really part of a single mega-adventure). Also they have a thing for untrustworthy allies.

HR sounds exciting, but I've not read it - I can't, as I might be a player.
HV manages to be quite evil - not a fan because of how dark it goes.
II is pretty awesome, from what I've read and prepped to GM.
SA is cool, but you've got to like creeeeeepy horror.
RoA is one Ime excited to play - I don't know much beyond that.


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I should get my hands on Skulls and Shackles at some point, too.


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Ah, class during spirit theme days.

Reviews the difference between fiscal and monetary policy lags
"Ms. Scint?"
"Yes?"
"I can't take you seriously with the Pikachu hat."


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I wasn't sure about creating an ocean full of honey as it sounded very difficult. However, everyone tells me that it's as easy as a bee sea.

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