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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I just looked at my internet router. 15 Mbps. For three college kids. No wonder we can't even get more than one bar of wifi in the bedrooms. And we have zero unused ethernet slots.
God I am bad at this. Okay, 150 mbps is the router, it's the connection that's about 15 mbps at high signal strength (directly next to the router and modem, full bars), give or take. Best I can eke out of it is 18. And our router's two ethernet ports are both used up. One leads to the modem, one to a power supply (damned if I know why we need a power supply that hooks up to nothing) and then to a signal extender (which clearly isn't very powerful). The power supply has one ethernet in, one ethernet out, so pulling it won't help. This is one crappy internet hookup.

LOL. You young whippersnappers!

True story: My first modem was 110 baud. Yes. One hundred ten BITS per second. You could watch each character appear. When we "upgraded" to 300 baud it was amazing.

These days we have two kids who are constantly playing online on Steam, two adults who Rift every night, and we're at... 5.8 Mbps. (We can't upgrade without going with either Comcast or AT&T, and we won't do business with either of them, so...)

That 15 seems a wee bit luxurious to me, y'know?

It's luxurious until you leave the living room and your connection speed plummets to barely one bar and you lose connection every 5 minutes.

Poor quality Wi-Fi or the devices have poor receivers or the walls are made of Wi Fi blocking materials. It shouldn't go so bad through a wall (even a load-bearing wall... though I have no idea what Americans put into their walls).


Rawr! wrote:

Windows XP is undead now, though.

I will say that XP was the best Windows operating system I ever worked with.

My favorite is 7. 8.1 is good for me too. At least for now.


NobodysHome wrote:

Windows 8 (and above) is also notoriously wonky with wireless networks. People come to my house, try to use wireless, and after 5-10 minutes I just ask, "Windows 8?", they say, "Yeah.", and I hand 'em a cable and tell 'em to turn off wireless.

I will admit that win 8 is the only windows I have never used and never will.


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Orthos wrote:
"Stop helping, Windows 8!" is still a common near-daily phrase in my apartment.

Have I accidentally turned off most of the problematic things so they don't bother me much? Or was that installing Classic shell?


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Weak Wi-Fi signal and no cloths on? And I even wasn't looking on porn!


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Drejk wrote:
Poor quality Wi-Fi or the devices have poor receivers or the walls are made of Wi Fi blocking materials. It shouldn't go so bad through a wall (even a load-bearing wall... though I have no idea what Americans put into their walls).

Cheese... mayonnaise... ketchup...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Poor quality Wi-Fi or the devices have poor receivers or the walls are made of Wi Fi blocking materials. It shouldn't go so bad through a wall (even a load-bearing wall... though I have no idea what Americans put into their walls).
Cheese... mayonnaise... ketchup...

You forgot the mustard and pickles.


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Only Pickles for me, thank you.

Not a condiment guy.


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Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
"Stop helping, Windows 8!" is still a common near-daily phrase in my apartment.
Have I accidentally turned off most of the problematic things so they don't bother me much? Or was that installing Classic shell?

Oh installing Classic Shell was the first thing I did when I got home after learning my new computer ran on Win8.

No, this is things like Win8 deciding I need to suddenly be looking at this window, or it needs to be maximized for no reason, or trying to snap something into a specific place when I moved it elsewhere, or popping up the right-side slide-in menu (whatever it's called) because I moved my mouse to the right spot (but I can never seem to summon the thing when I want it, either).


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Now wait a second Microsoft knows better than you do how you want to use your computer. Get with the program. Resistance is futile.


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I'm just tired of Windows 10's endless updates. Seriously, even when I haven't used the internet or even been near WiFi my laptop thinks it's time to take forty minutes to turn on because of updates.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

But I just saw you not too long ago. Where in the world is this cyst?

Also, we need to hang out so I can see this cyst/partially digested twin of yours...after I get back from cali.

Under my hair. Some people spotted it over the few years it was there, but you must not have.

As for it being a twin, I saw it and it didn't even have tiny hands. How disappointing.

Rats. I was so hoping it was Jonas Healer, Jr. Then I'd have two Healer Bros to arch.

Glad it was only a cyst and hope it heals quick.

I can't wait for the Jan 31st premiere.


Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I just looked at my internet router. 15 Mbps. For three college kids. No wonder we can't even get more than one bar of wifi in the bedrooms. And we have zero unused ethernet slots.
God I am bad at this. Okay, 150 mbps is the router, it's the connection that's about 15 mbps at high signal strength (directly next to the router and modem, full bars), give or take. Best I can eke out of it is 18. And our router's two ethernet ports are both used up. One leads to the modem, one to a power supply (damned if I know why we need a power supply that hooks up to nothing) and then to a signal extender (which clearly isn't very powerful). The power supply has one ethernet in, one ethernet out, so pulling it won't help. This is one crappy internet hookup.

LOL. You young whippersnappers!

True story: My first modem was 110 baud. Yes. One hundred ten BITS per second. You could watch each character appear. When we "upgraded" to 300 baud it was amazing.

These days we have two kids who are constantly playing online on Steam, two adults who Rift every night, and we're at... 5.8 Mbps. (We can't upgrade without going with either Comcast or AT&T, and we won't do business with either of them, so...)

That 15 seems a wee bit luxurious to me, y'know?

It's luxurious until you leave the living room and your connection speed plummets to barely one bar and you lose connection every 5 minutes.
Are you sure you aren't trying to connect too many wireless devices to the router? That's what I am guessing the issue is. Because you shouldn't get that level just one room away even from the cheapest device.

It's three college kids.


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This is pretty awesome!!

Silver Crusade

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Morning, all. What did I miss?


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Sharoth is deep sea diving, but I'm pretty sure, he's not in the right place to find me hidden pirate booty.


Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I just looked at my internet router. 15 Mbps. For three college kids. No wonder we can't even get more than one bar of wifi in the bedrooms. And we have zero unused ethernet slots.
God I am bad at this. Okay, 150 mbps is the router, it's the connection that's about 15 mbps at high signal strength (directly next to the router and modem, full bars), give or take. Best I can eke out of it is 18. And our router's two ethernet ports are both used up. One leads to the modem, one to a power supply (damned if I know why we need a power supply that hooks up to nothing) and then to a signal extender (which clearly isn't very powerful). The power supply has one ethernet in, one ethernet out, so pulling it won't help. This is one crappy internet hookup.

LOL. You young whippersnappers!

True story: My first modem was 110 baud. Yes. One hundred ten BITS per second. You could watch each character appear. When we "upgraded" to 300 baud it was amazing.

These days we have two kids who are constantly playing online on Steam, two adults who Rift every night, and we're at... 5.8 Mbps. (We can't upgrade without going with either Comcast or AT&T, and we won't do business with either of them, so...)

That 15 seems a wee bit luxurious to me, y'know?

It's luxurious until you leave the living room and your connection speed plummets to barely one bar and you lose connection every 5 minutes.
Are you sure you aren't trying to connect too many wireless devices to the router? That's what I am guessing the issue is. Because you shouldn't get that level just one room away even from the cheapest device.
It's three college kids.

But how many devices? The machine doesn't care how many people. I personally have 2 to 4 devices connected to mine depending on whether my boyfriend is over. My router supports 8 connections, but I have a good router. Three college kids with smart phones, tablets, computers, and gaming consoles PLUS however many of their friends have the password and are using it as well.

Try going into router setup and looking at the number of connections. Simply change the password and then restart the router. That will lower you to just what you personally connect to it. Try using it from various rooms with just one connection. If you still have issues then change the band the router is using to one less populated by potentially every other wireless signal in the area.


captain yesterday wrote:
Sharoth is deep sea diving, but I'm pretty sure, he's not in the right place to find me hidden pirate booty.

Pretty sure the only person looking for that is your wife?


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Let's add mandatory overtime to broken car and infection. Yay!

Um...Um...money? That's a bright side, I guess.

At least the side effects from the medicine stopped. That's a BIG plus!

Um...positive attitude...Yay...


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At least you don't have Cankles.


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Pressure and heat make diamonds. I plan on walking away shining. :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
Sharoth is deep sea diving, but I'm pretty sure, he's not in the right place to find me hidden pirate booty.

captain yesterday...you and Sharoth? I never knew, and I talk to Sharoth regularly...


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Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
"Stop helping, Windows 8!" is still a common near-daily phrase in my apartment.
Have I accidentally turned off most of the problematic things so they don't bother me much? Or was that installing Classic shell?

Oh installing Classic Shell was the first thing I did when I got home after learning my new computer ran on Win8.

No, this is things like Win8 deciding I need to suddenly be looking at this window, or it needs to be maximized for no reason, or trying to snap something into a specific place when I moved it elsewhere, or popping up the right-side slide-in menu (whatever it's called) because I moved my mouse to the right spot (but I can never seem to summon the thing when I want it, either).

The last one I know. It might be classic shell interfering with the right bottom corner...

Ah, I just found a way that seems to work. When I move the mouse pointer to the bottom right corner of the screen and then up a bit, that slide-in menu appears without problems.

Strange behavior of the windows... Are you using laptop with a touch pad? I keep the touch pad turned off because I often accidentally touched it triggering various similar problems.


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Oh, come on!

Debloons! Gold! Texas f$##ing Tea

I'd say you people need to get your s*&* out of the gutter, but this America, and there aren't any escalators leading out, and I certainly can't expect any one to actually put effort in and climb out, so... I guess I'll just take out my frustration by Twitter bullying Miley Cyrus. :-)


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What is it about co-workers not giving an <expletive> about utterly wasting your time?

Co-worker 1 is testing a lab I wrote.
CW1: Your lab isn't working. Here's the error I'm getting.
NH: OK. Set up a web conference and let's take a look-see. We'll go over the configuration, and... THERE! You did that step wrong. That's obviously incorrect.
CW1: No it's not. It's what your instructions say to do.
NH: I'm looking at my instructions right now and no, they don't. They are correct.
CW1: Re-checks document. Oh, yeah. You're right. Well, as long as I have you on the phone... Re-does lab. It works fine. I guess it works now.

So, my big question: Why the <expletive> did she e-mail me, call me, and set up a conference with me, before checking her own work!?!?!!?

(And yes, now she's IM'ing me, asking, "Should I import a solution or use my own," when her e-mail instructions say, "Please import the solution.")

Co-worker 2 is trying to write a lab and the UI isn't working. So he calls me, sets up a web conference, and shows me the problem.
NH: You notice that there are more menu items that aren't showing.
CW2: Yeah, but I can't get to them so I called you.
NH: Did you try anything at all first?
CW2: No; I figured you'd be able to help.
NH: Try choosing one of the existing menu items first, then re-expanding the menu.
CW2: Wow! Look at that! It worked!

So, you can't TRY anything without having me on the phone?

Grrr.....


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And another massive source of frustration: Microsoft, oh Microsoft, WHY can you not figure out that focus-stealing is ALWAYS WRONG!?!?!?!

On Windows XP, you could set Windows to never steal focus, and it would only sometimes do it.

On Windows 7, you set that setting, and it sometimes paid attention to it. But with every patch it would unset that setting.

On Windows 8, you're going to pay attention to whatever Windows thinks you should, darn it!

And at night when I'm not at work, I joyfully watch the little bouncing icons on my Mac Mini saying, "Oh, we'd like your attention, but we'd never dream of interrupting what you're doing...."


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...aaaaaand a final follow-up to that.

Now CW2 is IM'ing me every 30 minutes to say, "The product isn't working exactly the same as it did when the course was written 5 years ago. What do I do?!?!?!?!"

And technically, his job is to update the course to match the newer version of the product.

So the answer really is, "Your job."


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Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Orthos wrote:
"Stop helping, Windows 8!" is still a common near-daily phrase in my apartment.
Have I accidentally turned off most of the problematic things so they don't bother me much? Or was that installing Classic shell?

Oh installing Classic Shell was the first thing I did when I got home after learning my new computer ran on Win8.

No, this is things like Win8 deciding I need to suddenly be looking at this window, or it needs to be maximized for no reason, or trying to snap something into a specific place when I moved it elsewhere, or popping up the right-side slide-in menu (whatever it's called) because I moved my mouse to the right spot (but I can never seem to summon the thing when I want it, either).

The last one I know. It might be classic shell interfering with the right bottom corner...

Ah, I just found a way that seems to work. When I move the mouse pointer to the bottom right corner of the screen and then up a bit, that slide-in menu appears without problems.

Strange behavior of the windows... Are you using laptop with a touch pad? I keep the touch pad turned off because I often accidentally touched it triggering various similar problems.

same here. TouchPad really is no fun when it alters your settings just because you touched something without thinking or by accident.


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NobodysHome wrote:

What is it about co-workers not giving an <expletive> about utterly wasting your time?

Co-worker 1 is testing a lab I wrote.
CW1: Your lab isn't working. Here's the error I'm getting.
NH: OK. Set up a web conference and let's take a look-see. We'll go over the configuration, and... THERE! You did that step wrong. That's obviously incorrect.
CW1: No it's not. It's what your instructions say to do.
NH: I'm looking at my instructions right now and no, they don't. They are correct.
CW1: Re-checks document. Oh, yeah. You're right. Well, as long as I have you on the phone... Re-does lab. It works fine. I guess it works now.

So, my big question: Why the <expletive> did she e-mail me, call me, and set up a conference with me, before checking her own work!?!?!!?

(And yes, now she's IM'ing me, asking, "Should I import a solution or use my own," when her e-mail instructions say, "Please import the solution.")

Co-worker 2 is trying to write a lab and the UI isn't working. So he calls me, sets up a web conference, and shows me the problem.
NH: You notice that there are more menu items that aren't showing.
CW2: Yeah, but I can't get to them so I called you.
NH: Did you try anything at all first?
CW2: No; I figured you'd be able to help.
NH: Try choosing one of the existing menu items first, then re-expanding the menu.
CW2: Wow! Look at that! It worked!

So, you can't TRY anything without having me on the phone?

Grrr.....

I can answer to the first case but the second one confuses me too. When I was younger and something at work caused me to lose my self confidence I would do just what she did, second check with my superior every little thing even the stuff I knew how to handle. Looking at it now from a management position I can see how irritating I must have been, but my superior was a man so he never called me on it. Wherever that kind man is now I wish him luck.


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Aranna wrote:
I can answer to the first case but the second one confuses me too. When I was younger and something at work caused me to lose my self confidence I would do just what she did, second check with my superior every little thing even the stuff I knew how to handle. Looking at it now from a management position I can see how irritating I must have been, but my superior was a man so he never called me on it. Wherever that kind man is...

Oh, yeah. CW1 is definitely in the "not confident in herself" boat, so I'm very careful to be very nice to her when I interact with her. Doesn't mean I don't vent elsewhere. It helps me stay nice to her. :-P

CW2 has been in this business longer than I have, so I don't hide my frustration with him...


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Hate having nothing to really do at work. Nobody is coming in for tutoring at all right now, and I'm already done with other assignments. ... Oh well, getting paid to sit here most of the day at least.


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I would love to have no work. *sigh* It sounds like a dream. There are too many books I haven't read for that to ever be a problem.


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I work, but I'm office space-ing my job. :-)


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I hear that. It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I don't care!


Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I just looked at my internet router. 15 Mbps. For three college kids. No wonder we can't even get more than one bar of wifi in the bedrooms. And we have zero unused ethernet slots.
God I am bad at this. Okay, 150 mbps is the router, it's the connection that's about 15 mbps at high signal strength (directly next to the router and modem, full bars), give or take. Best I can eke out of it is 18. And our router's two ethernet ports are both used up. One leads to the modem, one to a power supply (damned if I know why we need a power supply that hooks up to nothing) and then to a signal extender (which clearly isn't very powerful). The power supply has one ethernet in, one ethernet out, so pulling it won't help. This is one crappy internet hookup.

LOL. You young whippersnappers!

True story: My first modem was 110 baud. Yes. One hundred ten BITS per second. You could watch each character appear. When we "upgraded" to 300 baud it was amazing.

These days we have two kids who are constantly playing online on Steam, two adults who Rift every night, and we're at... 5.8 Mbps. (We can't upgrade without going with either Comcast or AT&T, and we won't do business with either of them, so...)

That 15 seems a wee bit luxurious to me, y'know?

It's luxurious until you leave the living room and your connection speed plummets to barely one bar and you lose connection every 5 minutes.
Are you sure you aren't trying to connect too many wireless devices to the router? That's what I am guessing the issue is. Because you shouldn't get that level just one room away even from the cheapest device.
It's three college kids.
But how many devices? The machine doesn't care how many people. I personally have 2 to 4 devices connected to mine depending on whether my boyfriend is over. My router supports 8 connections, but...

Up the top of my head? We have four laptops, a PS3, a tablet, and three phones. We don't typically use those all at once, though. My laptops are used one at a time and not when the PS3 is on, and my phone has wifi turned off and only has a connection set up as a backup to cellular.

As for how many connections we have, I can't check that. Tenants do not have password access to the router. We are aren't supposed to be changing settings because it's considered university property. We can't even disconnect it and put a different one in.


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I got a tiny raise once, and this manager was all like "you'll notice it on your next check"

I just told him "my checks are so small I hardly notice them now"


Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Aranna wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I just looked at my internet router. 15 Mbps. For three college kids. No wonder we can't even get more than one bar of wifi in the bedrooms. And we have zero unused ethernet slots.
God I am bad at this. Okay, 150 mbps is the router, it's the connection that's about 15 mbps at high signal strength (directly next to the router and modem, full bars), give or take. Best I can eke out of it is 18. And our router's two ethernet ports are both used up. One leads to the modem, one to a power supply (damned if I know why we need a power supply that hooks up to nothing) and then to a signal extender (which clearly isn't very powerful). The power supply has one ethernet in, one ethernet out, so pulling it won't help. This is one crappy internet hookup.

LOL. You young whippersnappers!

True story: My first modem was 110 baud. Yes. One hundred ten BITS per second. You could watch each character appear. When we "upgraded" to 300 baud it was amazing.

These days we have two kids who are constantly playing online on Steam, two adults who Rift every night, and we're at... 5.8 Mbps. (We can't upgrade without going with either Comcast or AT&T, and we won't do business with either of them, so...)

That 15 seems a wee bit luxurious to me, y'know?

It's luxurious until you leave the living room and your connection speed plummets to barely one bar and you lose connection every 5 minutes.
Are you sure you aren't trying to connect too many wireless devices to the router? That's what I am guessing the issue is. Because you shouldn't get that level just one room away even from the cheapest device.
It's three college kids.
But how many devices? The machine doesn't care how many people. I personally have 2 to 4 devices connected to mine depending on whether my boyfriend is over. My router
...

woooooow....


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captain yesterday wrote:

I got a tiny raise once, and this manager was all like "you'll notice it on your next check"

I just told him "my checks are so small I hardly notice them now"

I have no idea what I get paid right now. The minimum wage just went up, but we have a payscale that starts at "X above minimum wage", but the general manager doesn't remember what "X" is. Minimum wage is $13 an hour, so I'm making more than that, I just don't know how much. Whatever it is, it's good, because my wage was good when it was $12.25.


Anyone else ever wonder what happens when kids given hyphenated last names by parents who can't make up their minds about whose name the kids get themselves have kids with other hyphen kids to said grandkids of the original parties? Do you hyphen all four? Does that continue, so that a few generations into yuppie parents you have kids that have names like the gnomes in Dragonlance?

I mean aside from a child developing a serious complex because their full name (which probably features first names like Taylur or Codi or Jazmynn some garbage like that) takes longer to spell than most sentences?


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The wife and I combined our names with hyphens when we got married.

It wasn't as romantic as we thought, and before the kids were born, had it changed to just mine (it's a cooler name trust me) which we did in Seattle, where it turns out, changing your name is ridiculously easy.


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Drejk wrote:
Strange behavior of the windows... Are you using laptop with a touch pad? I keep the touch pad turned off because I often accidentally touched it triggering various similar problems.

Nope, USB mouse. I hate touchpads so much.


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Hear hear!


I need to yell at my roommate for washing beans, small vegetables, fat, and cereal down the drain constantly. The pipes can't handle it, and when we have to call the university plumber, everybody in the apartment has to pay for it. In fact, we may already need a plumber.

Grand Lodge

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I love my touchpad only for the multitouch commands. It's pretty intuitive. But if I don't have that, USB mouse all the way.


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Bad day rant, please feel free to ignore:
I feel so frustrated right now. Even sitting up is hard today, and I am once again behind on stuff that I will end up scrambling to catch up on later. Vertigo sucks. So. Damn. Much. At any given time I can end up having to put my life on hold with no warning. And it's not like I haven't already scaled back on my activities because of this already. Because things that are easy for other people are so much effort. I can't even go grocery shopping without using noise cancelling headphones because the rumbling of the refrigerator and freezer cases is so wearing. But that's on a good day. And this is not a good day. This is a hope you like staying in bed all day because that's what you're doing day. Aargh!


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I had a really bad migraine most of the morning, certainly not as bad as vertigo tho.

Sorry to hear that Lynora, that sucks!


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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
I need to yell at my roommate for washing beans, small vegetables, fat, and cereal down the drain constantly. The pipes can't handle it, and when we have to call the university plumber, everybody in the apartment has to pay for it. In fact, we may already need a plumber.

Ask him if he knows where the pipes go, when he says no, say "Neither do I, but whatever is on the other end is clearly getting full, so knock it off!!


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lynora wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

my moM had that due to a medication she was taking. No fun. I'm sorry lynora.


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Redbeard the Scruffy wrote:

Anyone else ever wonder what happens when kids given hyphenated last names by parents who can't make up their minds about whose name the kids get themselves have kids with other hyphen kids to said grandkids of the original parties? Do you hyphen all four? Does that continue, so that a few generations into yuppie parents you have kids that have names like the gnomes in Dragonlance?

I mean aside from a child developing a serious complex because their full name (which probably features first names like Taylur or Codi or Jazmynn some garbage like that) takes longer to spell than most sentences?

We hyphenated because it made for a silly last name. (Well, that *AND* the little fact that NobodysWife found it extremely offensive that the woman is supposed to drop her name for her man's.) The kids love it. Who knows what they'll do when they get married? Not my issue! :-P

*MY* issue is that it's 2016 and most banks and government agencies still cannot deal with hyphenated last names.

Seriously?!?!? A hyphen is even part of the original 256-character ASCII set...

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