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LordSynos wrote:
Good morning afternoon, FaWtL folk. Hope everyone is doing well and having a good one. Cold but dry on these Emerald Isles. Time to dig out a jacket again.

It's starting to cool down at night here in the Rockies too.


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I thought I felt a draft. O_o


Wasn't me...


LordSynos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Alignment in general has come under fire as alignment-light mmo games have increased in popularity and class abilities are seen as party resources- if the party needs the paladins abilities in a situation that the paladin wouldn't enter as a character, that's tough nuggies: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual.

I'm running into issues with complaints about rogues in my kingmaker game along with complaints about finesse weapons and rapiers specifically, the idea of a single class having so many skills and being able to do so much damage through what some see as clever rule exploits is causing some friction. People seem to either want the rogue more or less powerful-noone is happy with the way things are currently.

Note that this is only my experience and opinion.

Healers and Ranger are my personal favorites, but I love me some rogue too just the way they are. My only complaint with healer types is the lack of skill points. I really like having a broad range of skills. Traits or class dipping let me diversify my skills, but I find it all but impossible to improve them with a cleric's skill points. I really liked the 3.5 cloistered cleric.

I hear that. I played a Cleric in my first PF game, and really enjoyed the class, but the lack of skill points was frustrating. I ended up not putting any points into KN (Religion), which made for some funny impromptu roleplaying of trying to make up religious practices on the fly (which no one believed anyways because I also had no skill points for Bluff :P ).

Playing a Human Wizard currently. Now I have ALL the skill points! :D

Yep, that's another problem for me - I don't like playing humans. So if I get stuck with a class with low skill points, I can't just get the racial bonus to make up for it. And if a favored class option (which we no longer tie to race) is super appealing, like extra spells known for spont-casters... yeah.

Thankfully we as a group have bumped all classes' skills per level up by two, so there's less stress there.

Dark Archive

Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Healers and Ranger are my personal favorites, but I love me some rogue too just the way they are. My only complaint with healer types is the lack of skill points. I really like having a broad range of skills. Traits or class dipping let me diversify my skills, but I find it all but impossible to improve them with a cleric's skill points. I really liked the 3.5 cloistered cleric.

I hear that. I played a Cleric in my first PF game, and really enjoyed the class, but the lack of skill points was frustrating. I ended up not putting any points into KN (Religion), which made for some funny impromptu roleplaying of trying to make up religious practices on the fly (which no one believed anyways because I also had no skill points for Bluff :P ).

Playing a Human Wizard currently. Now I have ALL the skill points! :D

Yep, that's another problem for me - I don't like playing humans. So if I get stuck with a class with low skill points, I can't just get the racial bonus to make up for it. And if a favored class option (which we no longer tie to race) is super appealing, like extra spells known for spont-casters... yeah.

Thankfully we as a group have bumped all classes' skills per level up by two, so there's less stress there.

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P


LordSynos wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Healers and Ranger are my personal favorites, but I love me some rogue too just the way they are. My only complaint with healer types is the lack of skill points. I really like having a broad range of skills. Traits or class dipping let me diversify my skills, but I find it all but impossible to improve them with a cleric's skill points. I really liked the 3.5 cloistered cleric.

I hear that. I played a Cleric in my first PF game, and really enjoyed the class, but the lack of skill points was frustrating. I ended up not putting any points into KN (Religion), which made for some funny impromptu roleplaying of trying to make up religious practices on the fly (which no one believed anyways because I also had no skill points for Bluff :P ).

Playing a Human Wizard currently. Now I have ALL the skill points! :D

Yep, that's another problem for me - I don't like playing humans. So if I get stuck with a class with low skill points, I can't just get the racial bonus to make up for it. And if a favored class option (which we no longer tie to race) is super appealing, like extra spells known for spont-casters... yeah.

Thankfully we as a group have bumped all classes' skills per level up by two, so there's less stress there.

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P

Pathfinder's skill consolidation definitely helped. It was even worse in 3E and 3.5.

Silver Crusade

Bitter Thorn wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Orthos wrote:
LordSynos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Healers and Ranger are my personal favorites, but I love me some rogue too just the way they are. My only complaint with healer types is the lack of skill points. I really like having a broad range of skills. Traits or class dipping let me diversify my skills, but I find it all but impossible to improve them with a cleric's skill points. I really liked the 3.5 cloistered cleric.

I hear that. I played a Cleric in my first PF game, and really enjoyed the class, but the lack of skill points was frustrating. I ended up not putting any points into KN (Religion), which made for some funny impromptu roleplaying of trying to make up religious practices on the fly (which no one believed anyways because I also had no skill points for Bluff :P ).

Playing a Human Wizard currently. Now I have ALL the skill points! :D

Yep, that's another problem for me - I don't like playing humans. So if I get stuck with a class with low skill points, I can't just get the racial bonus to make up for it. And if a favored class option (which we no longer tie to race) is super appealing, like extra spells known for spont-casters... yeah.

Thankfully we as a group have bumped all classes' skills per level up by two, so there's less stress there.

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P

I personally like full arcane casters. I am playing a wayang umbral shadow sorceror in mummys mask. great fun so far.

Dark Archive

Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P

I personally like full arcane casters. I am playing a wayang umbral shadow sorceror in mummys mask. great fun so far.

This is my first time playing an arcane caster and, so far, I'm feeling pretty limited combat-wise, though I've been led to believe that's normal for low level Wizards. I have every knowledge though, and it's providing lots of fun roleplaying opportunities, so good overall.

One of my party in the previous game was a gnome shadow sorcerer though, so I know how strong they can be. Kellanved, master of shadows and illusion. I hope to be as effective as I level.

Dark Archive

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
LordSynos wrote:

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P

Pathfinder's skill consolidation definitely helped. It was even worse in 3E and 3.5.

Never played the earlier editions, though I was aware certain skills were more broken up, mostly from games like Neverwinter Nights. I'm glad they decided to consolidate them.


LordSynos wrote:

Originally, I hadn't intended Human, not exactly my favourite race either, but another player advised me the GM was of the more lethal variety, and Toughness would do my Wizard some good. Seeing as it's made the difference twice in the course of four sessions, I don't entirely regret my decision.

That sounds so nice. :O I never got the need to restrict skills so darn much. Kinda limits the flavour you can add to characters, in my opinion. I need more flexible GM's. :P

We have a TON of homebrew races in our setting, so opening up the favored class bonuses to all races was kind of a necessity, otherwise we'd have to sit down and come up with a favored class bonus for every class for all our custom critters, or doom anyone not playing a core race to be limited to "+1 HP or 1 extra skill point, no shiny nice specialist things for you". It was just easier this way. Also this way not every spont-caster is a human for the extra spells known - that's a bonus just too good to pass up, especially for a spont-caster-lover like myself.

Bumping up the skill points was suggested by someone after trying to edge a cleric into having all the skills necessary to do their expected jobs - Heal, Knowledges, Spellcraft - without having to eke in more INT than is reasonable or be human. It caught popularity pretty quick with the group when it was brought up.


hi everyone


news from the autobahn Bomb:

they could not savely disable the bomb, so they had to detonate them in the night

it left a 40 ft wide and 12 feet deep craterin the middle of the road

so full closer in my home direction

I had to drive home through Frankfurts City ( and everyone else as well) 2hours instead of1/2 hour

they said tomorrow will the road reope, I really don't know how they will manage that in such a short time

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

My house no longer has a floor. But soon, it will have nice tile throughout.

The sooner, the better. We are ready to not be mooching off the parents.


aeglos wrote:

news from the autobahn Bomb:

they could not savely disable the bomb, so they had to detonate them in the night

it left a 40 ft wide and 12 feet deep craterin the middle of the road

so full closer in my home direction

I had to drive home through Frankfurts City ( and everyone else as well) 2hours instead of1/2 hour

they said tomorrow will the road reope, I really don't know how they will manage that in such a short time

Whoa. At least nobody got hurt.

Dark Archive

So apparently, having the tape wasn't secure enough for my finger. It's a difficult break to fix, so I have to go get a custom splint. whoopee.

Silver Crusade

That's a bummer.


Quiet night.


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Woo! Someone from church offered me a free bed frame last night. Needs mattresses, but can't complain about the cost =)


Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.


Wooooooooo

Silver Crusade

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Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.

Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.


Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.
Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.

Yep, this is what pretty much everyone has told me.


Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.
Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.
Yep, this is what pretty much everyone has told me.

But that e-mail idea is great, everyone has an old table chair that they might like to replace or is cluttering up their place - some of it great quality.

Silver Crusade

DSXMachina wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.
Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.
Yep, this is what pretty much everyone has told me.
But that e-mail idea is great, everyone has an old table chair that they might like to replace or is cluttering up their place - some of it great quality.

Especially if you can rent a truck/box van and pick it up from them, They will probably give it to you.


hi everyFaWtL


Hello there.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Hello FaWtLworld!


Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.
Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.
Yep, this is what pretty much everyone has told me.
But that e-mail idea is great, everyone has an old table chair that they might like to replace or is cluttering up their place - some of it great quality.
Especially if you can rent a truck/box van and pick it up from them, They will probably give it to you.

We have a van and if necessary plan to grab a UHaul thing.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Ah, the first day of the new semester.


I have got to swing down to Texas Sunday for a few days.

I hope everyone here is well.


Bitter Thorn wrote:

I have got to swing down to Texas Sunday for a few days.

I hope everyone here is well.

looking after your dad?

how is he doing ?

and how is Diane ? Please say Hi to her from me and Sabine


aeglos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

I have got to swing down to Texas Sunday for a few days.

I hope everyone here is well.

looking after your dad?

how is he doing ?

and how is Diane ? Please say Hi to her from me and Sabine

Yes. He is hanging in there, and it looks like he will make it to 89.

Will do.


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I need to move next week, but I don't want to...


My own dad is 81 this year.

Still works every day.


My grandfather was a few weeks short of 89 when he passed. He was pretty much the "still doing something every day" type as well, up until the last month or two.

My remaining grandparents are all in the same age bracket, though I think he was the oldest of the bunch. Mom's mom is 87 I think, and Dad's parents are a little younger, 85/86 I think. I don't have it written down though.

Silver Crusade

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My father in law is about to turn 88 and he is out building a fence for his yard, I can only hope to be that active at that age.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Bitter Thorn wrote:
aeglos wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

I have got to swing down to Texas Sunday for a few days.

I hope everyone here is well.

looking after your dad?

how is he doing ?

and how is Diane ? Please say Hi to her from me and Sabine

Yes. He is hanging in there, and it looks like he will make it to 89.

Will do.

Maybe we can finally hook up for lunch if you have time while you are over this way.


Grandparents are gone. 89, 88, 76, 68 - apparently in my family males live longer than their spouses. On the other hand grandma might lived much-much longer if not for surgical anesthesia from which she never woke up :/


Mom's dad finally learned how to burn his own CD and backup his photos some two weeks before dying to yet another heart attack.


Take pics!!!!! Almost have sex in the lobby!!!!!!


Uh..that was supposed to be for tordek and bt....


Who? With whom? Were there sexy redheads involved?

Silver Crusade

Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Dad suggested sending out a mass email asking for any old furniture people are willing to give away or sell. Need to do that today.
Furniture can be quite the expenditure, the only thing I would recommend is getting a good mattress. You cannot underestimate a good nights rest.
Yep, this is what pretty much everyone has told me.
But that e-mail idea is great, everyone has an old table chair that they might like to replace or is cluttering up their place - some of it great quality.
Especially if you can rent a truck/box van and pick it up from them, They will probably give it to you.
We have a van and if necessary plan to grab a UHaul thing.

Want a TV? If you come to NY, I can give you at least two or three.

Some people hoard books. Some people hoard cats. John hoards television sets.


LOL NY is a little out of my driving range =)


Bah. I have multiple TV sets back in Poland...

Spoiler:
If you want ancient-ancient TVs from the time when vacuum lamps and early transistors were all the rage. My grandfather and father were servicing TVs, Radios and later videos.


People who offered me a bed frame also offered me a TV, so that solves that =D


Nice.


I have generous acquaintances. On top of the desk, bedframe, and TV I've been offered by various people, one coworker offered me a cabinet/dresser/entertainment center thing and two solid-oak endtables, and another offered me dishware.


Orthos, I can also be generous. I will gladly give you my credit card debt. ~grins and runs~


=P

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