Ninjas and Poison


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Liberty's Edge 4/5

So, it isn't clear in the Ninja playtest, and it isn't (currently) covered by the Additional Resources web page, so, which poisons are legal for Ninjas to buy & use?

Is it the same list that Josh made for the Alchemist?

Quote:

Alchemists, because of their Poison Use (Ex) class ability, are allowed to purchase and use poisons. For now, they are the only class that has a list of "always available poisons" as noted below—no other class may purchase poisons unless they appear on a chronicle sheet. Alchemists are limited to the following poisons from the Core Rulebook:

Quote:

*Giant wasp poison
*Large scorpion venom
*Medium spider venom
*Shadow essence
*Small centipede poison

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Yes, they use the same list unless otherwise stated.

5/5

Mark, one of the ninja tricks (Poison Bombs) utilizes inhaled poisons. Can you please review the list of poisons and add an inhaled poison to the list?

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Kyle Baird wrote:
Mark, one of the ninja tricks (Poison Bombs) utilizes inhaled poisons. Can you please review the list of poisons and add an inhaled poison to the list?

good catch. I'll add this to my to-do list.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

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Mark Moreland wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
Mark, one of the ninja tricks (Poison Bombs) utilizes inhaled poisons. Can you please review the list of poisons and add an inhaled poison to the list?
good catch. I'll add this to my to-do list.

*Wonders how many pages that list is, and wonders if any of the items on the list involve torturing Kyle in some way...*

5/5

Dragnmoon wrote:
Mark Moreland wrote:
good catch. I'll add this to my to-do list.
*Wonders how many pages that list is, and wonders if any of the items on the list involve torturing Kyle in some way...*

Of course it really doesn't need to be added until August. Only Jason knows if that ability will be around in the final version, and even if it is, you could always decide to just make that ability not legal for play.

D-Moon, his list is approximately three times as long as the OP Guide, and fortunately none of them involve torturing me. Yet.

The Exchange 1/5

what are the rules on reverse archetyping? specifically around poison?

if i have a player that is playing a ninja and would like to exchange poison for trap finding, is that legal?

he is asking to basically do the opposite of the poisoner archetype

Poison Use (Ex)

At 1st level, a poisoner is trained in the use of poison and cannot accidentally poison herself when applying poison to a blade.

This ability replaces trapfinding.

5/5

You have to apply archetypes before any class features are swapped out. If a archetype swaps out a level 3 class feature you have to take the archetype at level 1 or 2. If you play at level 3 it is too late to take the archetype.

Any archetypes that alter level 1 class features has to be taken at level 1.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

There are no rules for reverse archetyping, so you cannot do it in PFS.

There is no alternate class feature that gives a ninja Trapfinding.

The Exchange 1/5

so is it allowed for him to switch poison use with trapfinding?

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

No, you don't get to swap out class features for other class features at will.

The Exchange 1/5

thank you for providing me the whens and hows of applying an archetype.

im sure this would be brilliantly valuable information if it was relative to my question.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

3 people marked this as a favorite.

The forum has been giving me problems the last little while, so maybe you didn't notice that two people, including me, have answered your question. There's no need to be rude just because one person, who was going out of their way to try to be helpful, misunderstood what you were asking.

In case you missed it, the answer is no.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Dysfunction wrote:

thank you for providing me the whens and hows of applying an archetype.

im sure this would be brilliantly valuable information if it was relative to my question.

Additionally, explaining how archetypes are applied, IS an answer to your question, even if obliquely.


Dysfunction wrote:

thank you for providing me the whens and hows of applying an archetype.

im sure this would be brilliantly valuable information if it was relative to my question.

He really did answer your question. But simply put yoke's cannot pick and choose which features you have from an at just because one is less useful to you.

If he wants trap finding he needs to mukticlass to a non rogue class with it.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

3 people marked this as FAQ candidate. Staff response: no reply required.
Back in January of 2011, Kyle Baird wrote:
Mark, one of the ninja tricks (Poison Bombs) utilizes inhaled poisons. Can you please review the list of poisons and add an inhaled poison to the list?
To which, Mark Moreland wrote:
good catch. I'll add this to my to-do list.

Did this ever get resolved?

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

There was an inhaled poison available as an auction prize this GenCon.

Should I assume that no inhalable poisons will be forthcoming for any ninja with poison smoke bombs?

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

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Chris Mortika wrote:

There was an inhaled poison available as an auction prize this GenCon.

Should I assume that no inhalable poisons will be forthcoming for any ninja with poison smoke bombs?

grrrr, I got so caught up in the game I was GMing I forgot to update my Bid, I really wanted those poison access.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Yeah, me too. :-P

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