"Please Don't Pull My Geek Card!" - Confessions


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Marijuakurion {4:20} wrote:
Either way you view it, it's still full of stars.

Get. In. Mah. BELLY!


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Yucale wrote:


... which brings me to that I have only played *two* games as a PC in a real game in the 1 1/2 years I've been trying to get into RPGs: apparently in my town, it's really really hard for a girl to get accepted in a game.
My sympathies; picking are mighty scarce around here too. Have you tried starting your own group? That's the only reason I've been able to play for a year and a half now.

I'm running a rather slow campaign for my family, and surprisingly my parents enjoy it enough to keep the game going (they're surprisingly good players).

I occasionally run very strange... games for my friends. They never last more than a few sessions before characters and plot gets re-written, but they're fun in a very strange way (knowing my friends, I'm not really surprised). We all have fun, but I only think one of my players will continue with the hobby outside our games (I'll direct her to this site sometime). Our current game includes the Russian and Chinese mafia and a werewolf who only attacks with her face... I mean bite attack.


Yucale wrote:
I occasionally run very strange... games for my friends....

I'm curious: Define 'strange', lol...


princeimrahil wrote:
I have never seen, nor have I any interest in seeing, Dr. Who. I mean, I really don't get the premise at all. What exactly is he supposed to be doing? Plus, almost any program based around time travel is probably going to wind up with some serious paradoxes and continuity issues, I'd think.

As a die-hard, rabid fan of Doctor Who (the old show, anyway,) I have to say... you're 100% right.

What exactly IS he supposed to be doing? He has no job. He just drifts aimlessly through time and space. There's no overall plot. He has no quest.

And continuity issues? Don't get me started! That show started contradicting itself in 1965, in its second season. This is because different stories were written by different people, who didn't always research the show, or who just had their own individualistic ideas. The show as a whole is NOT satisfying.

I'm a fan because of dozens and dozens of those stories, each taken individually. They had some fascinating (if highly implausible) concepts and premises, and intricate plots. But if you're looking for some overall message from the show as a whole, forget it. There is none.


Set wrote:
My geek-fail is not getting the attraction for Princess Bride. My gaming geek friends quote it constantly, and I find it tedious.

I don't know if it's only geeks. I think a LOT of people quote that movie a lot.

Liberty's Edge

I hate World of Warcraft. Utterly, and without ever having played it. (For the same reason I hate Starcraft- Blizzard's villains are always "ZOMG, I'M A TRAITOR TO MY SPECIES AND I! AM! THE BSET! ALL SHALL PERISH BEFORE ME!" New villain comes in, one shot kills old villain. Repeat until bored.)

I'm the only human being on Earth who will defend Star Trek: Enterprise as a good idea with some lousy execution. (Except for "A Night in Sickbay" and "These Are the Voyages..." because those episodes sucked.)

Sailor Moon, of all things, was my first and still my favorite anime. Disparaging Sailor Mercury in front of me is my berserk button.

I hate the drow. Hate hate hate hate hate them. If I run a non-OA game, they are never available as a heroic race.

Final Fantasy VII sucked, as did Advent Children, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus. That is all.

There was only one good Kingdom Hearts game, and it came out in 2002!?

Joss Whedon is highly overrated.

The best computer games ever created were ZZT, OverKill, Ultima III, and the entire Space Quest series. Ultima III is not open to argument.

These are the true confessions of someone who may or may not have earned his geek cred.


Ultradan wrote:
Yucale wrote:
I occasionally run very strange... games for my friends....
I'm curious: Define 'strange', lol...

It's impossible to really know without meeting us, but:

My friends:

Q- our unofficial leader, she's shameless, loves anime and videogames, hyper all the time, laughs constantly, reaaalllly crazy, and strangely charismatic. She's an awesome artist. She's my best friend (I've known her since kindergarten, and we've been really good friends for four years, which is long since we're both thirteen).

Domo- uhm, depressed. Loves the Beatles, yaio, and manga. She should've lived in the sixties. She's also a determined artist.

Karlos- None of us know wether or not she's goth. Even she doesn't know, but a lot of people assume she is (black eyeliner, black hair, black clothes). She's constantly pissed at the world. She can rant really well, since she has a store of out-of-the-way info. She is an excellent critic of videogames in general. We (she and I) can hold fascinating political and philosophic discussions for hours. She defeats her fear of zombies by becoming an expert in destroying them.

In the latest adventure, their characters are:

Q- Ching Chong ; more of a racial slur than a name, Q has been verry interested in China since watching Axis Powers Hetalia. Ching Chong is a werewolf ranger. Q plays werewolves for their bite attack and because of the sun goddess wolf from Okami. I don't know why she keeps playing rangers.

Domo- Wakabe, a random rogue (plays him like a commoner) who just stalks Ching Chong and ... carries fuzzy pink handcuffs. Yes. He's actually creepier than I made him sound.

Karlos- Suki, a vampire alchemist from the Russian mafia. What's more, the dice really like her.

In the adventure, Ching Chong has for some reason decided to assassinate her father, evil leader of the Chinese mafia, with the help of Suki. Wakabe simply stalks them throughout the adventure, gets bad rolls, and generally tries to run away (and when he does he just hangs out nude in alleys). In the beginning, when Ching Chong and Suki meet in Ching Chong's family restaurant, a dark cloaked person tries to take control of the place using magical darkness and apprehend someone. Despite my hints that the encounter is over CRd, they attacked. After general destruction, when the darkness fades the attacker flees (as well as Wakabe; when he'd started stalking he'd knocked over a vase and embarrassed himself). Suki and Ching Chong decide it's as good a time to set out as any, and leave while all the customers are leaving. They get apprehended by two thugs; Suki quickly kills one and Ching Chong eventully manages to maul the other one to death. That's the adventure so far.


-I guess the one that I seem to notice the most is that I flat-out never keep up with internet trends, or with what cool director made what film.

Although I am a huge cinema fan I choose what I love very carefully and I have a hard time "diving" into the new "cool" movies, and trendy internet videos. Yea I saw dr. horrible, but on netflix, first time I'd ever heard of it. It was hilarious, I still don't care about joss weadon.

This is not an insult to those who do follow these things, but when I show up to game and everyone else is watching old spice commercials for the 10th time I feel my gamer "cred" being sucked out lol.

-I have never liked comic books with the exception of several graphic
novel formatted stories(watchmen, ghost world, bone, gunslinger born).

-I don't like star trek, at all.

-I have never played munchkin/killer bunnies/etc/etc I only play dnd, well pathfinder specifically these days.

-I paint warhammer minis because I enjoy the hobby, but I have never played a single game with them.

-I dislike anime greatly

-I HATE the music that the majority of my gaming friends/aquaintances enjoy, especially when they act like it's "real" metal, or "heavy" AHHHHH

-I dislike sci-fi in general except for Star Wars, of which I am guilty of liking ep. 1-3 in an obligatory way.

-Despite being an avid reader I do not often read/enjoy fantasy novels, I prefer horror.

-Vampires are the worst.

-Somehow I feel that smoking weed makes one loose gamer "cred"


Yucale wrote:
Ultradan wrote:
Yucale wrote:
I occasionally run very strange... games for my friends....
I'm curious: Define 'strange', lol...

It's impossible to really know without meeting us, but:

My friends:

Q- our unofficial leader, she's shameless, loves anime and videogames, hyper all the time, laughs constantly, reaaalllly crazy, and strangely charismatic. She's an awesome artist. She's my best friend (I've known her since kindergarten, and we've been really good friends for four years, which is long since we're both thirteen).

Domo- uhm, depressed. Loves the Beatles, yaio, and manga. She should've lived in the sixties. She's also a determined artist.

Karlos- None of us know wether or not she's goth. Even she doesn't know, but a lot of people assume she is (black eyeliner, black hair, black clothes). She's constantly pissed at the world. She can rant really well, since she has a store of out-of-the-way info. She is an excellent critic of videogames in general. We (she and I) can hold fascinating political and philosophic discussions for hours. She defeats her fear of zombies by becoming an expert in destroying them.

In the latest adventure, their characters are:

Q- Ching Chong ; more of a racial slur than a name, Q has been verry interested in China since watching Axis Powers Hetalia. Ching Chong is a werewolf ranger. Q plays werewolves for their bite attack and because of the sun goddess wolf from Okami. I don't know why she keeps playing rangers.

Domo- Wakabe, a random rogue (plays him like a commoner) who just stalks Ching Chong and ... carries fuzzy pink handcuffs. Yes. He's actually creepier than I made him sound.

Karlos- Suki, a vampire alchemist from the Russian mafia. What's more, the dice really like her.

In the adventure, Ching Chong has for some reason decided to assassinate her father, evil leader of the Chinese mafia, with the help of Suki. Wakabe simply stalks them throughout the adventure, gets bad rolls, and generally tries to run away (and when he...

wtf?.... reading this helps me feel normal

The Exchange

Not a huge fan of Tolkien's writing style. I thought the LotR movies were better than the books.

I prefer DC over Marvel comics

I do not play or like MMO's & very much dislike Halo.
I don't like playing games online at all. I play video games to get away from people, that's my me time.

I am not a fan of Conan at all
I find Babylon 5 to be very dull

Deep Space Nine and Enterprise were two of my favorite Star Trek shows, but since I'm not a huge Trek Fan in the first place this one may not count.

I thought the new Star Trek movie "reboot" was better than any previous ST movie or TV show. As a matter of fact up until the current ST movie I listed Galaxy Quest as the best Star Trek movie (not a big fan of the ST movie series).

I did not like Lost

I thought the Watchmen movie was great

I like Hockey (I can't play for crap, but I like it)
I can't swim

I don't own an iphone and don't really want one. I've even blocked all internet access from the phone I have. There's is nothing so urgent on the net it can't wait until I get to a computer.

I can't stand facebook and I think twitter is ridiculous.

I like 2e AD&D more than OD&D and 1e AD&D. Of course I like 3.x/Pathfinder more than all of them.

I liked Green Hornet and thought both Batman Begins and Dark Knight were over-rated.

I prefer Alpha Flight and Great Lakes Avengers over any other Marvel team.

I preferred the Scarlet Spider and Spiderman 2099 over Peter Parker Spider-man

I prefer Dick Grayson as Batman

I like Mello Yello more than Mountain Dew

I like Neil Diamond

I prefer werewolves to vampires and zombies beat them all.

I like science fiction movies, but generally get bored with Sci-fi literature.

I like some "chick flix"

I liked Waterworld and the Postman

I have started playing M:tg again, but only the core set.

I love to paint minis, but I can't stand using them in my games

I only own 5 sets of gaming dice


MMO's blow, the last video game I invested myself in was DOOM, and I think that if one is going to stay awake through 2001: A Space Odyssey, one would almost have to be high; at least it would give a person something else to focus on besides blowing one's brains out from sheer boredom.

The worst parts of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (and that's saying a lot) were trying desperately to be 2001, for some reason.

It's interesting, we must have a much more tolerant community here at Paizo than I realized. Otherwise, this thread would have exploded into a giant fireball of nerdrage about 150 posts ago.


karlbadmanners wrote:
-Somehow I feel that smoking weed makes one loose gamer "cred"

Don't get out much, huh? Not been around a huge pool of gamers? ;-)


Zig-Zag wrote:
karlbadmanners wrote:
-Somehow I feel that smoking weed makes one loose gamer "cred"
Don't get out much, huh? Not been around a huge pool of gamers? ;-)

Actually one of my gaming groups is comprised entirely of pot smokers, and in the other I am the only one. Overall most TTRPG gamers I know don't smoke and seem to have little knowledge of "pot culture". I think this may be due to the age groups of the people I game with.

Dark Archive

Snorb wrote:

...

I'm the only human being on Earth who will defend Star Trek: Enterprise as a good idea with some lousy execution. (Except for "A Night in Sickbay" and "These Are the Voyages..." because those episodes sucked.)...

Had it been handled correctly (or even slightly differently) from the start that show would still be on the air. (This is coming from someone who watched Voyager all the way through.) Starting the series with the temporal cold war thing was a mistake, but if that had been a four episode arc it would have been fine. Xindi thing, same deal. The last season almost got it. Show the foundations of the Federation, show off the Romulan war, get to some of the non-humanoid members of the federation, come up with plots that don't involve "the captain is right because, damnit, he's the captain."

But no, we got the show we got, where the female lead was treated like a prop, where the main antagonist for the first season was refered to, in house no less, as "future guy" because they didn't bother to plot out anything past the third episode when the first started writing, and every episode was how righteously indignant the captain can get this week about something.
Besides the cartoon, it's the one Trek show I don't count as "real" trek.

Dark Archive

Capt. D wrote:
Deep Space Nine and Enterprise were two of my favorite Star Trek shows, but since I'm not a huge Trek Fan in the first place this one may not count.

Liking Deep Space 9 over other Star Trek stuff is worth geek cred, in the right crowd. Plus, Jadzia Dax. Mmmm.

I pretty much agree with all of your later stuff. (Liked the new Star Trek, Lost was boring, loved Watchmen, don't have even a cellphone, let alone an iPhone, no clue about social networking sites, didn't I leave high school to get the hell away from those people? Why would I want to 'reconnect' with them? Prefer 2e to 1e, vastly. Alpha Flight (and the GLA!) rocks.).

We'll agree to violently disagree about Babylon 5 (which, granted, didn't get good until seasons three and four, and then fell apart again for season five). :)

Liberty's Edge

karlbadmanners wrote:
Zig-Zag wrote:
karlbadmanners wrote:
-Somehow I feel that smoking weed makes one loose gamer "cred"
Don't get out much, huh? Not been around a huge pool of gamers? ;-)
Actually one of my gaming groups is comprised entirely of pot smokers, and in the other I am the only one. Overall most TTRPG gamers I know don't smoke and seem to have little knowledge of "pot culture". I think this may be due to the age groups of the people I game with.

Yeah, that probably has something to do with it. Down here there are a lot of pothead gamers, and a lot of ex-pothead gamers (good job not worth risking a toke over, kids, etc). And a lot of non-pothead gamers.

I just think it has little impact on geek cred. ;-)

The Exchange

Set wrote:


Liking Deep Space 9 over other Star Trek stuff is worth geek cred, in the right crowd. Plus, Jadzia Dax. Mmmm.

Oh Yeah ;-)

Set wrote:
... no clue about social networking sites, didn't I leave high school to get the hell away from those people? Why would I want to 'reconnect' with them?

Exactly!

Set wrote:
Prefer 2e to 1e, vastly.

the OSR give 1e lots of love, but almost everyone seems to ignore or hate on 2e. It make me sad :-(

Set wrote:
Alpha Flight (and the GLA!) rocks.).

@#$@ Right!

Set wrote:
We'll agree to violently disagree about Babylon 5 (which, granted, didn't get good until seasons three and four, and then fell apart again for season five). :)

Fair enough. I only watched the first season and a couple of the movies. It may have gotten better, but it didn't keep my interest long enough for me to find out.

Liberty's Edge

Capt. D wrote:
Set wrote:
Prefer 2e to 1e, vastly.
the OSR give 1e lots of love, but almost everyone seems to ignore or hate on 2e. It make me sad :-(

Some of the OSR crowd think 1e is an abomination. Almost all agree 2e is a dog.

I think part of the problem is, 1e was kind of gritty. Not grimdark gritty, but it had an edge. 2e was, for the most part, made of marshmallow. After playing 1e for ten years and having a homebrew that matured as I did, 2e seemed almost like "kiddie D&D", anything even remotely "dangerous" was completely removed, and we knew this wasn't the dev's decision, it was Lorraine telling them she didn't want to see any bad press.

But, if you're a D&D player Born after '78 or so, chances are 2e was your first. And your first is always special.


Aaron Bitman wrote:

As a die-hard, rabid fan of Doctor Who (the old show, anyway,) I have to say... you're 100% right.

What exactly IS he supposed to be doing? He has no job...

Before someone else corrects me, I should admit that the Doctor DID have a job once, for a few years, when he was stranded on twentieth-century Earth. He worked as a scientific advisor for a military task force. Even then, he had no salary, although he DID want, as payment, equipment to try to fix his time machine. He demanded a car, too.

And once again, I would want to write in an agreement to about 50 of the opinions expressed here, but that's too many for me to quote.

Sovereign Court

feytharn wrote:

I don't care much for Star Trek and I can't stand Kirk.

I fail seeing through a nostalgic lense, so while I like many old (and often cheesy) movies I just can't talk myself into admiring bad acting and worse plots just because they were done in (or before) my youth.

I don't care if a movie "holds true" to its (book, comic, older movie) roots, as long as it's a good movie.

I have yet to experience geek rage if my taste disagrees with someone elses.

I don't care much for Bruce Campbell (I find Army of Darkness Entertaining and like him in Burn Notice though).

I haven't read many superhero comics and those I did read were entertaining but not worth geeking out about them.

I like most of Joss Whedons work.

I have yet to dislike a movie just because it has famous stars in it or just because it was a major success.

I actually like Avatar, even if it wasn't the greatest movie of all time.

I like Tolkiens writing style better than Howards.

My God you must be my evil twin!

Going out on a limb here, I like MMOs, not all of them mind you but it certainly bucks the trend.

I have been called an "anti-Trekkie" because I only really like DS9.

I do not like 4E but I do not look down on it.

Do not care for Red Dwarf but enjoyed Lexx very much.

Want a scarf like Tom Baker wore on Dr. Who which apparently has been done a thousand times and gets me looks of scorn any time I mention such.

Prefer liquor neat. Can not stand Mt. Dew or Cheetos.

/yoink?


About old movies, all of them look slow, long and somewhat boring for today standards.

I don't like:

pseudo-rpg or pseudo-strategic card games... or card games at all! Except Poker, Mus and Citadels.

Liberty's Edge

IkeDoe wrote:
About old movies, all of them look slow, long and somewhat boring for today standards.

Old movies had to rely on dialogue, story telling and strong characters. New movie scripts seem to be:

Blow something up.

Catch phrase.

Blow more s%#~ up (Now in 3D!)

Snarky dialoge.

Banal "message"

Furry sex.

More explosions.

The end.

Scarab Sages

Nostalgia must be a great thing ;)
Sure, there are great old movies with good stories and good dialogue.
Yet not all are, I doubt that most would stand the test of time without the nostalgia factor.
Same as today.
There were movies made for effects and action rather then story since the silent movies.
Same as today.


karlbadmanners wrote:
Zig-Zag wrote:
karlbadmanners wrote:
-Somehow I feel that smoking weed makes one loose gamer "cred"
Don't get out much, huh? Not been around a huge pool of gamers? ;-)
Actually one of my gaming groups is comprised entirely of pot smokers, and in the other I am the only one. Overall most TTRPG gamers I know don't smoke and seem to have little knowledge of "pot culture". I think this may be due to the age groups of the people I game with.

I've gotten some gamer grief over this as well.

I've always ran a clean table, no heavy drinking or drugs before or during the game. If you have to smoke you can do it outside. Part of this is my personal beliefs and part of it is that most games I've ran have been at my place and I don't want to be involved in it. So I've been on the receiving end of the whining over how it part of gaming and whatever other bad argument they can come up with.

Plus, despite what they might claim, I've yet to meet a gamer who roleplays better when he's drunk or high.

Shadow Lodge

karlbadmanners wrote:
-I have never liked comic books with the exception of several graphic novel formatted stories(watchmen, ghost world, bone, gunslinger born).

I'd just like to point out that Watchmen is a collection of twelve regular-sized comics.

Liberty's Edge

feytharn wrote:

Nostalgia must be a great thing ;)

Sure, there are great old movies with good stories and good dialogue.
Yet not all are, I doubt that most would stand the test of time without the nostalgia factor.
Same as today.
There were movies made for effects and action rather then story since the silent movies.
Same as today.

I was just ragging on Avatar. Everyone acts like it's freaking Gandhi or something.

It's a special effects extravaganza with a trite, over-told story, it isn't some deep piece of art.

Liberty's Edge

Kthulhu wrote:
karlbadmanners wrote:
-I have never liked comic books with the exception of several graphic novel formatted stories(watchmen, ghost world, bone, gunslinger born).
I'd just like to point out that Watchmen is a collection of twelve regular-sized comics.

Ah, so he spread out the pretension before collecting it in one place, cool!

;-)

Scarab Sages

houstonderek wrote:
feytharn wrote:

Nostalgia must be a great thing ;)

Sure, there are great old movies with good stories and good dialogue.
Yet not all are, I doubt that most would stand the test of time without the nostalgia factor.
Same as today.
There were movies made for effects and action rather then story since the silent movies.
Same as today.

I was just ragging on Avatar. Everyone acts like it's freaking Gandhi or something.

It's a special effects extravaganza with a trite, over-told story, it isn't some deep piece of art.

All right then. I like Avatar, but I never expected Ghandi to begin with ;)

We must be frquenting very differnt cowds though, I hear much mor ranting about how Avatar must be one of the worst movies ever to hit the screen then people acting as if it were a piece of art ;)
One more blow to my geek creds: I forgot to confess that I am bored beyond belief by the stargate series ever since season 1...


Beyond the quality of the script of old and modern movies there are really differences in how they are produced in order to market them better. I.e. The "build tension" thing is almost gone.
I can imagine a remake of 2001, Blade Runner or The Godfather and I hope it never happens.
I have seen a lot of interesting action/adventure movies lately, but the last satisfying movie I watched was "Thank You For Smoking"... and it was a Comedy.

Liberty's Edge

It used to take skill to film a movie. Now it takes a digital camera and Studio Pro. It's time consuming, but it's grind work, not skill work (this is an academic opinion, not layman's). The editing still takes an eye for the story, but everything else is just playing with pixels.


ALPHA FLIGHT FOREVER!!!!

And yeah, sounds like you've got some strange, good friends there Yucale.


I was never big on the movie Wizards even with the "they killed Fritz scene"; yeah, I know; but its true.

and I dont drink Mountain Dew; go figure. And, I still read comic books and play D&D and I am almost, sheesh hate to admit it; 50.

All through Avatar I was thinking; hmm, this could be a Warhammer 40K movie with just a few small alterations; hehe.


Oh yeah, I hate Harry Potter too. Did I mention that already?

Liberty's Edge

Never really liked WoD that much. Don’t care about old WoD vs new WoD.

Have never, and probably never will play WoW or any other MMO or whatever they’re called.

Have not played any computer RPGs or fantasy action games since the old Pool of Radiance and Azure Bonds.

Don’t like Magic or other CCGs.

Not that into comics.

Not that into comic book adaptation movies, I’ve found most of them fairly meh to average. There have been a few I’ve liked.

I never really liked Star Trek ToS that much. Did like the recent reboot movie.

I had to google her to find out who Felicia Day is (and then realised, oh yeah, that girl in Buffy and Doctor Horrible and Dollhouse ... yeah, she’s ok).

Most of my friends (outside my gaming group) are anti-geeks.

I don’t care that much about canon. What is or isn’t canon, whether this author or director or GM or whatever has deviated from canon. Who really cares that much?

I think for a geek, I just don’t obsess / stress about geek things enough.

Never read Wheel of Time.

I’ve only ever read a couple of short stories by Moorcock.

I didn’t realise until this thread that liking Rocky Horror Show was a geek culture thing (not really a fan).

Still haven’t seen Avatar.

I don’t drink Mountain Dew ... or Coke, or Pepsi or whatever or the cool geeks are drinking these days.

---

I like Joss Whedon. He does good work, generally. I don't worship the ground he works on, or assume that everything he touches turns to gold.


houstonderek wrote:

New movie scripts seem to be:

<snip>

Furry sex.

O.o

I guess I don't see enough new movies.


That reminds me. I hate this new crappy 3d kick. Even when the movie is obviously not originally shot for or in 3d, the 3d is becoming the new "standard." Like for Green Hornet.

And for Thor, it was like "In 3D!! ... and in 2D in select theaters."

BS. I want to watch Thor in "2D" and not this half-assed 3D. It gives me a headache and I didn't like it for Avatar either.

Liberty's Edge

Yeah ... not really a fan of 3D as 'standard' either.


Pan's Labyrinth is ten times the movie that Hellboy, Blade or any other del Toro film is that I've seen. Probably the only way he could maybe top P's L would be with The Hobbit, but last I heard, Jackson's back in that driver's seat.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Preach it, TS.


I'm really, really good with the ladies.

I mean it. Like, keep me away from your wife or gf good.

Liberty's Edge

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Pan's Labyrinth is ten times the movie that Hellboy, Blade or any other del Toro film is that I've seen. Probably the only way he could maybe top P's L would be with The Hobbit, but last I heard, Jackson's back in that driver's seat.

Pan’s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie. I also enjoyed Hellboy (one of the exceptions to generally not being taken with comic book adaptations). They are such different types of movie that I think it is difficult to compare them to say this or that was a better movie. It really depends so much on personal preferences, what you want to get out of watching a movie and what sort of mood you are in.

For the record I thought Pan’s Labyrinth was ‘better’, however, I found myself somewhat reluctant to watch it a second time, whereas I’ve happily watched Hellboy three or four times.

Sovereign Court

Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Pan's Labyrinth is ten times the movie that Hellboy, Blade or any other del Toro film is that I've seen. Probably the only way he could maybe top P's L would be with The Hobbit, but last I heard, Jackson's back in that driver's seat.

If you hvent seen it, Del Toro's The Devil's backbone is fantastic.


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Pan's Labyrinth is ten times the movie that Hellboy, Blade or any other del Toro film is that I've seen. Probably the only way he could maybe top P's L would be with The Hobbit, but last I heard, Jackson's back in that driver's seat.

I love Blade to pieces, but fistbump

Liberty's Edge

I liked Pan's Labyrinth, but I couldn't escape the thought I was basically watching fantasy torture porn starring a little girl.


Avatar = Dances with Smurfs.

As for things that would yank my geek card . . . .

I dance. West Coast swing, waltz, two-step, cha, salsa. Yes, I'm good and I have the trophies to prove it. Dancing was (is) a great passtime. For three minutes, I get to put my hands pretty much anywhere on a woman, and she thanks me afterwards. I lead and I follow (hey, when you're teaching this stuff, you gotta know both parts). And I've been told I wiggle better than some women. That's quite a feat for someone 6'4" and 250 lbs.

Hate MMOs.

I like Crown Royal Black neat, good rum, and Bombay Sapphire martinis.

Star Trek is meh. Although Deep Space 9 wasn't too bad.

But don't worry. I'm painting miniatures tonight to fully recharge my geek-cred card. Later I'm off to read Wil Wheaton's blog just to make sure I don't get kicked out of the geek-club.

Shadow Lodge

Love del Toro. Think he would have been 1000% better than Peter Jackson for The Hobbit (or Lord of the Rings, for that matter).

That said, I don't think he (or anyone else) will be able to make a faithful adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness that's even remotely watchable. It's not a knock against him, or the novel, I just think that's it's essentially unfilmable.


Kthulhu wrote:
karlbadmanners wrote:
-I have never liked comic books with the exception of several graphic novel formatted stories(watchmen, ghost world, bone, gunslinger born).
I'd just like to point out that Watchmen is a collection of twelve regular-sized comics.

all of those I mentioned were originally formatted in regular-sized comics

but they follow a more concise and consistent story arc and are not as "out-branched" and "scattered"

When gaming with the "pot-head" group we smoke a couple of times during the session(a session is usually 8 hours for us) but if anyone thinks they role-play better stoned or drunk, they are kidding themselves.

I have learned over time that being high can help the drift into fantasy while gaming, but I would neither recommend nor condemn smoking at the game table, drinking however is off limits at the table.

I will however note that rolling/leveling a character whilst a favorite aspect of gaming for me, can be tough when stoned too many choices lol.

Does being covered in tattoos count against gamer cred? Albeit the back of my fore-arm sleeve is the cover of the 3.5 phb :)

Also I thought pan's labyrinth sucked, not because I dislike movies "similar" to it, but because I DO like movies similar to it, I found it rather pointless and while it was a nice piece of eye candy there are alot of other films that are just as tasty to my eyes with more "substance" to them


houstonderek wrote:
I think vampires are played out.

+1 for every gamer I know.

The rest makes me think we wouldn't hang out for anything besides TTRPGs which is fine with me.


Doug's Workshop wrote:

Avatar = Dances with Smurfs.

Tisk, tisk. As the cashier at my local gaming store put it it is more accurately Avatar = Ferngully in space.

Liberty's Edge

The Admiral Jose Monkamuck wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
I think vampires are played out.

+1 for every gamer I know.

The rest makes me think we wouldn't hang out for anything besides TTRPGs which is fine with me.

Honestly, I'm really not that big of a geek. I started playing D&D when I was nine because my buddy played, and I like the game, but most geek trappings don't interest me. For me to have as much knowledge and wide range of geeky interests as some hard core dudes I know, I'd had to have given up sports, barhopping, camping, burner stuff, road trips, and a bunch of other activities that doesn't involve consumer electronics and projected light devices. Growing up dirt poor helped there, I didn't get my first computer until I was in my 20s (didn't have a VCR until then either), and, until I got a job at 16, could only get the RPG essentials (twice a year, b-day and Christmas).

I was saved from getting into computer RPGs when I kept running into five black dragons at third level in Azure Bonds.

I don't even know much about computers other than mine is a portable juke- and movie box, library, web browser, letter writer and spreadsheet maker.

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