Knife Fighter (Fighter)


Round 2: Design an archetype

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Scarab Sages Dedicated Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7

Hmm - I like archetypes that are more than just specializations for a class, but the abilities are nice and really live up to the concept. Also, I love your Item and would very much like to see what you come up with, next.
Voted.

Dark Archive Contributor , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Boxhead

Okay, I'd like to take a moment to thank everyone who helped the knife fighter make it through to the top 16 (thankfully, he brought me with him).

I'll answer a few points.

everybody wrote:
The name is so boring!

I know, I know. I had a string of other names I was toying with- knifeman, cutter, shiv, dagger master, subtle blade. At the end of the day, I didn't want people to shove the knife fighter into a single niche. I really tried to cover every way someone might want to play the class, without them forcing them to a single style. From the breastplate-wearing nobleman to the back alley street fighter, everyone could be a knife fighter!

a bunch of people wrote:
It's so broken!

I did not expect that. I can understand the initiative bonus being too high relative to bravery, taht should be reigned back in, but the weapon mastery at 1st level was the only incentive I could think of for someone to actually use the dagger from level 1-20. Otherwise you'd likely see people using a longsword (or wahtever) until they hit the level that knife mastery kicks in.

I do agree somewhat with the question of a rogue dipping for one or two levels, but I don't think it really adds that much over the fighter. It gives up 1 feat and a conditional bonus to Will saves for +1 to hit and damage with daggers, +1 conditional bonus to sleight of hand when concealing weapons and +1 initiative. The shortsword already provides +1 damage over daggers, so this amounts to whether the skill and initiative bonus are that better than bravery. It could be, but I do not believe it's overwhelmingly so. YMMV.

Dark Archive Contributor , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Boxhead

Gah, double post! Curse you board demons!

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6

Thanks for the insight into your design.

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