Everyone at Paizo:
I'm sure you know now that D&D minis are done. If I'm going away from the minis I can get from them, I really, really wish I would have some place to put my "mini" money.
Buying all of the monsters I need in metal form is impractical for me, because I can't paint, and I don't have that much money.
However, I did buy the Monster Vault because I liked the counters. I liked the counters because they are on heavy cardboard with a nice finish, and they have some nice art on them.
I really, really want something very similar to the counters from the Monster Vault for Pathfinder, using the Bestiary artwork, to use in my games. I'd pay good money (perhaps a bit more than I even paid for the Monster Vault) for these counters, and I don't need a book in the set, just some nice, official Pathfinder counters of similar quality to the Monster Vault counters.
I know not everyone will want these, and just KEJR wanting these won't cut it, so hopefully anyone else that would be interested in a product like this will chime in.
Thanks for listening.
Magic d20 of Destiny says, "CRIT!" They're not the heavy cardstock token, but there is the Pathfinder Paper Minis line.
Magic d20 of Destiny says, "CRIT!" They're not the heavy cardstock token, but there is the Pathfinder Paper Minis line.
And I do appreciate that, but I'd love a product that was a lot more like the Monster Vault counters, with the same wide range of monsters available in one product and ready to go out of the package.
Everyone at Paizo:
I'm sure you know now that D&D minis are done.
Was this in some press release or somthing?
Was this in some press release or somthing?Everyone at Paizo:
I'm sure you know now that D&D minis are done.
They announced it in this month's Ampersand column. They may still do some specialty sets like the Collector Beholder set, and they will have some minis in the board games they put out, but there is no more D&D minis line officially.
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They announced it in this month's Ampersand column. They may still do some specialty sets like the Collector Beholder set, and they will have some minis in the board games they put out, but there is no more D&D minis line officially.Was this in some press release or somthing?Everyone at Paizo:
I'm sure you know now that D&D minis are done.
Wow! This is the first I've heard that!
Wow! This is the first I've heard that!
Its true! However, to help me continue my online marketing hypnotism of Paizo, would you like them to make official counters similar to the Monster Vault ones? ;)
I would be in on this. I've never had any interest in traditional minis. Some nice heavy cardstock minis would be great.
Yeah, another token lover! I really enjoy the ones WotC has put out, but like the art in Pathfinder better. I can't wait to send more money to Paizo to purchase multiple sets of tokens for all of their products. Which they already have the art for and talent to put into a round shape and print on heavy card stock.
I am also war gamer, hides in corner. Since that segment of paper gaming is even smaller than the RPG world, most companies do something called the P500 or something similiar. They wait for 500 preorders before publishing the game. That way they get paid, move enough product to pay for the printing of the game, and know that the game will sell well. I would love to see something like this go that way, since the market for these tokens is most likely much smaller than the minis. I love minis, my wife doesn't, so here I am, asking, err begging. I am tired of making my own poor quality ones.
James
Agreed, I looked at the paper minis in the past and while they are OK overall I am looking for something of higher quality then something I print and fold up.
I would love for Paizo to come out with some tokens, or maybe even get Reaper to do some Pathfinder plastic mini's sets. (They currently have some orcs, skeletons, etc)
Either way I would add them to the list of things I buy or subscribe to.
(Not to derail this thread but have you thought of setting up a Reaper Metal Mini sub with a 20% discount or something?)
I would be down for some good quality counters, though by good quality I mean solid cardstock, a sturdy finish, and either more than one image of each creature (my biggest complaint with counters), or a spot on the counter where one could write down a number.
I would be down for some good quality counters, though by good quality I mean solid cardstock, a sturdy finish, and either more than one image of each creature (my biggest complaint with counters), or a spot on the counter where one could write down a number.
That's another thing I do like about the Monster Vault counters. When there are multiple counters of a monster, there are numbers in the corners.
If the counters are the same quality, however, I could live without the numbers, but I do like them.
I guess I could have put this in the "Products" section. I wasn't thinking about it, since its a theoretical product that I'm trying to see if anyone wants, but there seems to be other "theoretical product" threads there as well.
I've said this before, but I'm a huge fan of the Fiery Dragon counters for 3.x and 4e (and I don't even play 4e). If Paizo could put out something like these I would be thrilled! (Preferably thick and square-sided, though, not the thin and round ones from earlier in 3rd edition--though of course the original artwork made those very nice!).
What can anyone tell me about the counters in the Monster Vault.
Artist(s)? How many per sheet? Are they all medium creatures? I might need to get that product just for the counters.
What can anyone tell me about the counters in the Monster Vault.
Artist(s)? How many per sheet? Are they all medium creatures? I might need to get that product just for the counters.
I yoinked this from a review on Amazon, because my own Vault is with my gaming stuff on my reserved shelf at the FLGS:
Large: Angel of Battle, Angel of Vengeance, Basilisk, Beholder, Black Dragon (young), Black Pudding.
Small / Medium: Abyssal Eviscerator (really!), Air Elemental (lesser) (2), Ambush Drake (2), Angel of Valor (veteran) (2), Angel of Protection, Babau, Beholder Gauth, Bloodseeker Drake, Bugbear (3), Bulette (young) (2), Cave Spider (4), Chain Devil, Crocodile (2), Death Knight, Deathjump Spider, Doppleganger (2), Dragonborn Mercenary, Dragonborn Soldier, minion (4).
Sheet #2
Large: Blue Dragon (young), Bulette, Carrion Crawler, Cyclops (4!), Hydra.
Small / Medium: Dretch Lackey (4) (not a typo!), Drow (female) (2), Drow (make) (2), Dryad (4), Duergar (4), Dwarf (female) (2), Dwarf (male) (2), Earth Archon (2), Eladrin (female) (2), Eladrin (male) (2).
Sheet #3
Huge: Balor (YOU...CANNOT...PASS!), Red Dragon (elder), ring.
Large: Bear, Demonic Savage Minotaur (sigh), Dire Wolf (2), Displacer Beast (2), Dracolich.
Small / Medium: Elf (female) (2), Elf (male) (2), Fire Archon (2), Fire Elemental (lesser) (2), Ghoul (4), Githyanki (4), Green Slime.
Sheet #4
Large: Doomspinner Spider, Drider, Efreet, Ettin, Fire Giant (male) (2).
Small / Medium: Gargoyle (2), Gnoll (3), Gnoll AI (2), Gnome (female), Gnome (male), Goblin (8), Goblin AI (4), Guard Drake (2), Hag (icky!), Halfling (female), Halfling (male), Hobgoblin (3), Human Duelist (2), Human Town Guard (2), Human Transmuter, Water Archon.
Sheet #5
Large: Fire Giant (female) (2), Flesh Golem, Frost Giant (2), Frost Giant Marauder, Gelatinous Cube, Ghost Troll Render (not a punk band).
Small / Medium: Human Bandit (4), Hyena (2), Imp, Ice Archon (2), Kobold (4), Kobold AI (4), Lich, Lizardman (poisonscale) (4), Lizardman (greenscale) (2), Medusa, Medusa Bodyguard.
Sheet #6
Huge: Blue Dragon (elder), White Dragon (elder), ring.
Large: Green Dragon (young), Hezrou, Hill Giant (female) (2), Hill Giant (male) (2), Horse, Iron Golem.
Small / Medium: Mummy (2), Mind Flayer, Orc (8), Orc AI (4), Orc Storm Shaman, Pseudodragon.
Sheet #7
Large: Ice Devil, Lizardman (blackscale) (2), Manticore, Marilith, Ochre Jelly, Otyugh, Owlbear.
Small / Medium: Rakshasa (2), Rust Monster (2), Shark, Skeleton (8), Skeleton AI (2), Snake (4), Spider Swarm, Stirge (4), swarm (3).
Sheet #8
Huge: Black Dragon (elder), Green Dragon (elder), ring.
Large: Ogre (4), Pit Fiend, Rage Drake, Stone Golem.
Small / Medium: Succubus (She's not bad, she's just drawn that way.), Tiefling (female) (2), Tiefling (male) (2), Troglodyte (4), Troglodyte AI (2), Water Elemental (lesser) (2), Wererat (2), Werewolf (2).
Sheet #9
Huge: Earth Titan, Fire Titan, ring.
Large: Red Dragon (young), Roper, Treant (2), Troll (2), Snake (Crushgrip Constrictor).
Small / Medium: Wolf (3), Wraith (4), Vampire, Vampire AI, Vampire Spawn (8).
Sheet #10
Huge: Purple Worm (!), Frost Titan, ring.
Large: Rocktempest Gargoyle, Umber Hulk, Vrock, White Dragon (young), Yuan-Ti Abomination, Zombie (hulking) (2).
Small / Medium: Dire Rat (2), Yuan-Ti (2), Yuan-Ti AI (2), Zombie (3), Zombie Shambler (8)
The art is from the original Monster Manual pictures for the creatures, and for the most part is pretty good. The rings that are mentioned on the sheets in the above description are rings that you can put around a large sized creature to make it huge.
The cardstock of the counters is similar to the stock used for the D&D Dungeon tiles and has a similar finish, if you are familiar with those.
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I'd rather have punch-out standees to be placed on clear plastic bases, such as those seen in WHFRPG 3rd edition (and really similar to the investigators' tokens of Arkham Horror), rather than flat counters.
Not only - IMO - standees look better, but the plastic base could be provided in different colors, to differentiate factions and/or conditions.
A simple thematic packaging (Bestiary I goblinoids, Bestiary I undead, Bestiary II fiends, etc.) would keep each set price tag relatively low, and allow for personal tastes-use-customization.
Counters should come with different numbers on them (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ...). It would me more easy to track monsters' hp when the PCs are fighting several monsters of the same kind at once. Of course, the numbers shouldn't take to much space on the counters, because the artwork is more important. :)
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+1! I would love some tokens... there are a lot of Pathfinder monsters that have yet to have ANY representation as a mini/counter (mite, I'm looking at you!) and this would be a great way to change that. I have used the paper minis, but even printed on cardstock, they don't last long. Currently, I use glass counters that I've glued pictures of the PF monsters to the bottom of (thanks to SKR!) and like them for the lack of space they take up in my game gear compared to minis.
I would love this if you offered them in pdf form. I could then print them out for use as I need them or use them in a virtual table top as pogs. As it stands right now I need to do lots of picture editing to make pogs for the virtual table top I use. Perhaps a print version and a digital collection should be offered.
I yoinked this from a review on Amazon, because my own Vault is with my gaming stuff on my reserved shelf at the FLGS:What can anyone tell me about the counters in the Monster Vault.
Artist(s)? How many per sheet? Are they all medium creatures? I might need to get that product just for the counters.
Thank you for pointing out this product. I'll buy it when I get back from my trip. While I don't own many 4E products, there are two exceptions:
1. All the Dungeon Tiles sets
2. The "Roleplaying Game Starter Set"; for the tiles and tokens included in the set
I would love to purchase tokens made by Paizo.
What can anyone tell me about the counters in the Monster Vault.
Artist(s)? How many per sheet? Are they all medium creatures? I might need to get that product just for the counters.
I yoinked this from a review on Amazon, because my own Vault is with my gaming stuff on my reserved shelf at the FLGS:
** spoiler omitted **...
You rule! Thanks so much for that. I actually have pretty much everything on that list already (from the 4e Fiery Dragon counters by Claudio Pozas), but it sounds like the art would all be completely different. I need to take a quick peak at the 4e MM to see if I like most of the art, and then this is a sale!
+1 on the counters suggestion. I can't afford metal miniatures in the scale that's necessary for a game. I really just buy the Pathfinder miniatures as display items.
Perhaps counters could be available as GameMastery products? I'd subscribe to such a product line in an instant. Study cardstock and space for numbers is the name of the game.
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I make my own tokens, but would gladly buy official ones, especially if they were some form of punch-out style card stock (I'm thinking like what comes in board games).
A set that had all the options of the bestiary, with several duplicates of the obvious (goblins, zombies, etc.), and I'd even appreciate a set for adventure paths similar to the map folios - just give me tokens for all the creatures in the path.
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I make my own tokens, but would gladly buy official ones, especially if they were some form of punch-out style card stock (I'm thinking like what comes in board games).
A set that had all the options of the bestiary, with several duplicates of the obvious (goblins, zombies, etc.), and I'd even appreciate a set for adventure paths similar to the map folios - just give me tokens for all the creatures in the path.
++ on the AP specific sets.
I like the way the WOTC ones come pre numbered for the "goons" so much easier as a DM to track the effect and HP of #1
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Definitely would buy Pathfinder Tokens. But in the meantime, you can make some simple ones for yourself, using full sheet self-adhesive printer/label paper. Grab the image from the Bestiary pdf and import it into a word document. You can size it to 1x1, 2x2, etc and then print full pages. You can also find a lot of images in other Paizo products or online (one monk minis, fat dragon games, etc) if you don't want all of your kobolds to look the same. After printing, punch/cut them out. I use the cutting tool from Alea Tools for circles and a cheap lamination cutter (from Walmart) for squares. Printing a thin border around each image makes cutting out squares fast and easy. Then you can peel 'n stick to whatever base you want to use. Galeforce9 has bulk bases, in various sizes and shapes, cut from 1/8" wood (masonite, I think?). They sold it by the quart last summer at GenCon. I got a bag full (hundreds) for about $10.
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I'd rather have punch-out standees to be placed on clear plastic bases, such as those seen in WHFRPG 3rd edition (and really similar to the investigators' tokens of Arkham Horror), rather than flat counters.
Not only - IMO - standees look better, but the plastic base could be provided in different colors, to differentiate factions and/or conditions.
You could sell a set of transparent square plastic stand bases with a raised slot along the middle into which a card image of the creature could be slotted vertically and slots on the horisontal part for number/colour on one side and condition on the other. Like the tags you put on folders in a filing cabinet.
Folks could buy a set of these bases and some 'rings' for making them large/huge etc. You'd probably need no more than 20 of these stands in total.
The paper minis line are perfect for printing onto card stock and slotting into the top of these. A new paper minis release could contain the numbers 1-10 on different coloured backgrounds and some clever icons for common conditions.
That would really complete everything that is needed. Make the shape and size open knowledge so that anyone can print stuff to slot into them. It would be a better option for some than having to cut/glue fully paper minis.
As an avid war gamer/RPG player, circle counters are superior for a few reason. The main one is that when you have numerous counters on the map, and are moving them around, it is MUCH easier to move circle or octagonal counters past each other than square. Also, having circle counters makes it easier to pick up counters from a map with a bunch of counters on them. There is some space between squares on the map with circular counters. All of the war games I play, I clip the corners off of the square counters to allow for ease of movement and handling. My two cents. Also, would have been nice if the maps were all hexagonal instead of square, but that train left the station a looong time ago.
James
Also the circles are sized to fit on hexagonal grids.
I'll add a +1 for this product to be developed
+1 You can count me in for this too!
In fact, I already suggested something like this and you can read more *here*.
+1 for me too, particular for summon monster/nature's ally and familiars.
Cheers
Mark
I'll add my voice to the chorus... I'd like to see monster counters, affordable and lots of them. Slotta-base standee style preferably.
Throw in condition tokens and area of effect templates too!
Great Thread KnightErrantJR.
One more "Yes Please!" here, and another idea: Altitude indicators of some sort for those of us up in the air. :)
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Yes, please for tokens!
I used to be a miniatures man, but with time constraints painting isn't really an option anymore and plain silver or primer'd minis don't look all too snazzy.
I agree with what Anthony Valente was heading towards. A combat box if you will. A slew of tokens (no need for 3D), some condition counters, a size modifier (to upgrade tokens), and templates for different size AoE's. Wizards was on the right track with the tokens and size adjusters, but I think you wouldn't need to add adventures or stat blocks. Unless it had new monsters ofcourse ;) I would buy it in a heart-beat. Possibly even 2.
More like probably 2, maybe 3 :D