"All 0-level wizards spells"


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Greetings from a newbie. Hopefully the answer to this question isn't so obvious that you've wasted your time opening this topic.

Saturday, I'll be playing in my first ever Pathfinder Society game(s). In fact, it'll be my first experience with the Pathfinder system or the "3.5 version of the world's oldest fantasy role-playing game" either one (or 3.0 for that matter, I skipped from 2nd edition to 4th).

Anyway, I've been dutifully going through my Core Rulebook to familiarize myself with the rules and to make up characters but have just today got around to reading my new .pdf of the other core assumption text, Seekers of Secrets.

All the above is probably unnecessary context, sorry. My question is whether the line at page 79 of the Core Rulebook stating that a "wizard begins play with a s spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells" is meant to be understood as covering only those 0-level spells in the Core Rulebook, or whether when I come across a 0-level spell in another source (I'm specifically looking at Scrivener's Chant at pp. 17-18 of Seekers of Secrets) I can add that to my wizard's spellbook (in this case, the spell is not from an opposition school).

If it makes any difference, the character has not yet been played.

Cheers,

Christopher

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Personally, I'd take the statement of "wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells" at face value. All 0 level spells means all of them (well, from any legal source).
Just my opinion though.

Joe

Christopher Rowe wrote:

Greetings from a newbie. Hopefully the answer to this question isn't so obvious that you've wasted your time opening this topic.

Saturday, I'll be playing in my first ever Pathfinder Society game(s). In fact, it'll be my first experience with the Pathfinder system or the "3.5 version of the world's oldest fantasy role-playing game" either one (or 3.0 for that matter, I skipped from 2nd edition to 4th).

Anyway, I've been dutifully going through my Core Rulebook to familiarize myself with the rules and to make up characters but have just today got around to reading my new .pdf of the other core assumption text, Seekers of Secrets.

All the above is probably unnecessary context, sorry. My question is whether the line at page 79 of the Core Rulebook stating that a "wizard begins play with a s spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells" is meant to be understood as covering only those 0-level spells in the Core Rulebook, or whether when I come across a 0-level spell in another source (I'm specifically looking at Scrivener's Chant at pp. 17-18 of Seekers of Secrets) I can add that to my wizard's spellbook (in this case, the spell is not from an opposition school).

If it makes any difference, the character has not yet been played.

Cheers,

Christopher

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Omega Man wrote:

Personally, I'd take the statement of "wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells" at face value. All 0 level spells means all of them (well, from any legal source).

Just my opinion though.

Joe

Christopher Rowe wrote:

Greetings from a newbie. Hopefully the answer to this question isn't so obvious that you've wasted your time opening this topic.

Saturday, I'll be playing in my first ever Pathfinder Society game(s). In fact, it'll be my first experience with the Pathfinder system or the "3.5 version of the world's oldest fantasy role-playing game" either one (or 3.0 for that matter, I skipped from 2nd edition to 4th).

Anyway, I've been dutifully going through my Core Rulebook to familiarize myself with the rules and to make up characters but have just today got around to reading my new .pdf of the other core assumption text, Seekers of Secrets.

All the above is probably unnecessary context, sorry. My question is whether the line at page 79 of the Core Rulebook stating that a "wizard begins play with a s spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells" is meant to be understood as covering only those 0-level spells in the Core Rulebook, or whether when I come across a 0-level spell in another source (I'm specifically looking at Scrivener's Chant at pp. 17-18 of Seekers of Secrets) I can add that to my wizard's spellbook (in this case, the spell is not from an opposition school).

If it makes any difference, the character has not yet been played.

Cheers,

Christopher

+1. Seekers of Secrets is also part of the "core assumption" so even if this wasn't the case, you shouldn't be given any grief about that one...

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Thank you both.


I am also pretty sure that the previous head of the PFS, Josh, posted that all legal 0-level spells count for that and not just the ones from the Core book and Seekers. That would include any new 0-level spells in the APG and any listed in chapter 13 of the Guide to PFS Play. Now, the current heads of the PFS, Mark and Hyrum, may change that ruling. But even if they do, a scroll of a 0-level spell only costs 12.5 gold plus the cost to scribe it into your spell book.

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
It's a bit wahoo, but go ahead and just have the 0-level spells. Wizards are supposed to get all of them and it seems weird to say, "If you're a pre-APG wizard, you don't have them, but post-APG wizards do."
MillerHero wrote:
Corebook wrote:
A wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells (except those from his prohibited schools, if any; see Arcane Schools) plus three 1st-level spells of his choice.
Since the 0-level spells Spark and Scrivener's Chant are permitted in PFS, do PFS wizards get them added for free at 1st level, or must they sacrifice a regular cantrip to get a new one? I know you can buy a scroll and scribe it into your book for very little money, but it is a question I anticipate being asked.

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MillerHero wrote:
Since the 0-level spells Spark and Scrivener's Chant are permitted in PFS, do PFS wizards get them added for free at 1st level, or must they sacrifice a regular cantrip to get a new one? I know you can buy a scroll and scribe it into your book for very little money, but it is a question I anticipate being asked.

"ALL 0-level": You get a bunch more freebies for your spellbook every time a new book comes out. No need to swap anything.

JP

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Don't expect very many new 0-level spells being added to the game willy-nilly. As it stands, there are probably enough cantrips and orisons to fill all the "at-will" niches and thus no need to start mucking with such an available resource.

That said, for you to gain access to existing, legal 0-level spells from sources other than the Core Rulebook, you still need to bring a copy of that spell in some form (pdf or print book) so your GM knows what it is. Gaining access to it doesn't bypass that rule of using non-core material in organized play.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Enevhar Aldarion wrote:
I am also pretty sure that the previous head of the PFS, Josh, posted that all legal 0-level spells count for that and not just the ones from the Core book and Seekers. That would include any new 0-level spells in the APG and any listed in chapter 13 of the Guide to PFS Play. Now, the current heads of the PFS, Mark and Hyrum, may change that ruling. But even if they do, a scroll of a 0-level spell only costs 12.5 gold plus the cost to scribe it into your spell book.

The sensible assumption is all zero level spells in the core book. The character creation guide does not specify any other source. It doesn't mean however that the character can't acquire them later.

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