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Ghost of a Phase Spider (I'm swiping that)
Me too! We can be swiper buddies!
"Swiper no swiping!" my eye!
Darn Frost Giants. Stop tossing boulders at people! They won't buy your Igloos!
Well, in this case, the housing market crash is both literal, and literally their own fault.
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1051: Path of Most Resistance!
Looks like Haley just got psyched. :)
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Snowblind wrote:Can anyone say God wizard?V was a buffer here actually ;-)
Which is one of the roles of a God Wizard.
What god comes down and finishes off all his mortal enemies personally? No, instead he provides his followers the tools required to do it themselves.
The Greek heroes are all pretty much examples of this principle. That is the role of the wizard in the party. He doesn't win the combat, he instead provides the
tools for the rest of the party to win, by "controlling reality". AKA: a god.
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Personally, I think a "God" wizard should put the greatest emphasis on Battlefield Control spells. ... Buffing is a good standby for when no Battlefield Control spell is appropriate
V is empowering her follower party mate with the ability to kill his/her enemies. Ergo God.
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Demigod then
I mean it is almost as demeaning as being a Cleric or a Bard
It is still an uncommon show of team solidarity for V to have even prepared that spell. Character growth FTW
V didn't have to decide who it'd be cast on when the spell was prepared, and zie's used invisibility to run away before.
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The Raven Black wrote:V didn't have to decide who it'd be cast on when the spell was prepared, and zie's used invisibility to run away before.Demigod then
I mean it is almost as demeaning as being a Cleric or a Bard
It is still an uncommon show of team solidarity for V to have even prepared that spell. Character growth FTW
I feel that it would make even more sense then for V to keep it just in case an escape is needed rather than semi-waste it on buffing a semi-martial ;-)
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Note that V cast Greater Invisibility. That's higher level than regular Invisibility and lasts rounds instead of minutes. V absolutely has Invisibility prepared for emergencies. If Haley hadn't needed it, then having both means V can cover two emergency exits instead of just one.
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Note that V cast Greater Invisibility. That's higher level than regular Invisibility and lasts rounds instead of minutes. V absolutely has Invisibility prepared for emergencies. If Haley hadn't needed it, then having both means V can cover two emergency exits instead of just one.
I still believe that V prepared this with teammates in mind as I think there are many spells of this level that selfish old V would have prepared instead. And I think dismissing the cost of the spell out of hand ("Yes, yes. Magic is very nice. Shall we ?") is just hiding the changes in mindset and maybe alignment that V went through
YMMV of course :-)
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Worth remembering that for wizards, due to the duration, invisibility is basically objectively better than its Greater counterpart. Greater Invisibility is really only worth it as a buff. So yeah, it's character development that they prepared it. I like how V has come to realize that it's better to be an inglorious God Wizard than an openly badass Blaster. It mirrors both theorycraft evolution and their own character arc.
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I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
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I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
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Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.
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jemstone wrote:They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
"They/their/them" works perfectly well when you want to refer to someone, but you're uncertain of their gender.
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Aimless wrote:"They/their/them" works perfectly well when you want to refer to someone, but you're uncertain of their gender.jemstone wrote:They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
Coolness. Seems odd that they/their/them applies to an individual, but I'll happily take it!
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thejeff wrote:Coolness. Seems odd that they/their/them applies to an individual, but I'll happily take it!Aimless wrote:"They/their/them" works perfectly well when you want to refer to someone, but you're uncertain of their gender.jemstone wrote:They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
You probably use it a lot but don't realise it.
"Hey, someone's left their wallet behind.""Oh, I hope they come back for it."
"Yeah, sucks to be them now, though."
Not that uncommon, but people always seem to think it's odd.
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Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
While I agree in general (and most NB people I know prefer they/their/them), in the particular case of Vaarsuvius, I tend to use V/V's/V and avoid specifying pronouns for V at all.
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jemstone wrote:They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
Originally, "you" was second person plural in English; "thee" and "thou" were the correct singular forms (used in the same manner as "me" and "I"). Using "they/them/their" in place of "it" (which has connotations of non-personhood) is a possible shift in language use for a gender-neutral pronoun that has become more popular.
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Aimless wrote:Originally, "you" was second person plural in English; "thee" and "thou" were the correct singular forms (used in the same manner as "me" and "I"). Using "they/them/their" in place of "it" (which has connotations of non-personhood) is a possible shift in language use for a gender-neutral pronoun that has become more popular.jemstone wrote:They/their/them are plural, correct? What is the gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" that would work well? I'm really curious in the "I want to know so as to better communicate" form of curiosity.Snowblind wrote:I wouldn't go as far to call it "objectively" better. Character development aside, V is a blaster and an enchanter. Xe* is exactly the sort of wizard who would want to target xir enemies with impunity while hiding behind the safety of invisibility. Whether it is worth the extra spell levels is debatable, but V *could* get good use out of it over invisibility.
*man, writing with gender neutral pronowns feels wierd
Use They/Their/Them.
Gender neutral pronouns that have existed since the modern language was codified. And nearly all of my non-binary friends prefer them, to boot.
Coolness, thanks! This is going to take some getting used to, as I agree about "it" being reserved for inanimate objects. "Someone" will suffice for the singular it seems, as "they" and "them" come across as plural, with "their" being both singular and plural. Neat stuff.
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You probably use it a lot but don't realise it.
"Hey, someone's left their wallet behind."
"Oh, I hope they come back for it."
"Yeah, sucks to be them now, though."Not that uncommon, but people always seem to think it's odd.
Thanks for these examples. They helped me realize that I find it odd to use they/them because in French we would use Il/son/lui (=He/his/him) in such an indefinite case.
And I subconsciously translate the usual expression in French into its closest equivalent in English.
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Thomas Seitz wrote:Not always.I'm just glad my own drow noble wizard didn't choose to specialize...
Mostly because he's always needing other spells.
V on the other hand, has just the right spells ALWAYS.
How about more often than my wizard?
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Lord Fyre wrote:How about more often than my wizard?Thomas Seitz wrote:Not always.I'm just glad my own drow noble wizard didn't choose to specialize...
Mostly because he's always needing other spells.
V on the other hand, has just the right spells ALWAYS.
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Thomas Seitz wrote:That is almost certainly true.Lord Fyre wrote:How about more often than my wizard?Thomas Seitz wrote:Not always.I'm just glad my own drow noble wizard didn't choose to specialize...
Mostly because he's always needing other spells.
V on the other hand, has just the right spells ALWAYS.
"I don't know what's weirder - that you keep preparing that spell, or that you keep needing it."
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Lord Fyre wrote:"I don't know what's weirder - that you keep preparing that spell, or that you keep needing it.Thomas Seitz wrote:That is almost certainly true.Lord Fyre wrote:How about more often than my wizard?Thomas Seitz wrote:Not always.I'm just glad my own drow noble wizard didn't choose to specialize...
Mostly because he's always needing other spells.
V on the other hand, has just the right spells ALWAYS.
People often wonder why I have a spell giving the half elf/half silver dragon money all the time so he can sleep on it...
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You know what I love about Order of the Stick? While it does depict some deaths as just—even necessary—it never exactly depicts them as good. Death is senseless, and Order of the Stick, more than any gaming comic I know, acknowledges that. It acknowledges that for all the necessity of some violence, there's always something unpleasant about it, no matter how awful the target. Crystal is openly stated to be a dangerous monster that needs to die, but her death is really wretched—almost sad. Tsukiko and Malack were the same way. Even Nale's and Zz'dtri's deaths felt a bit senseless—for all his lack of clearly defined character, Zz'dtri's loyalty to Nale was kind of touching, and it's explicitly all he died for.
As summed up by the roaches and MitD:
"So what? Who cares?"
"Exactly. That's why I'm sad."