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Hi, I'm taking my second cleric level and was wondering what the rules are on domains, as I couldn't explicitly find them. I have two domains from the core book, but was wondering if I had the legal option to replace them with APG subdomains or are my domains I chose at creation permanent, especially in the case of Society. If I can't, that's fine but was weighing my options. Thanks!
Back when the APG became official for PFS play, Josh was still in charge and he ruled that the only changes to characters allowed was to adjust playtest characters to match the final rules. Other than that, there was no rebuilding or swapping out allowed.
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Back when the APG became official for PFS play, Josh was still in charge and he ruled that the only changes to characters allowed was to adjust playtest characters to match the final rules. Other than that, there was no rebuilding or swapping out allowed.
Unless the features of a rebuild character would not have come into play at the pressent level.
Thus a low level character might still be given an archtype from the APG if that optional build's first class features would first be granted at a higher level.But it is try that Josh ruled no retroactive changes were allowed.
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Thanks guys. Makes my decision making easier actually. But at least I have a new character concept to try out later :)
What subdomain were you looking at? Many of them have their first alternate ability at levels higher than 2nd. If you're only taking your 2nd cleric level, you may still have some options without needing to actually rebuild anything.
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Nope.
The only thing I've ever seen done is hand-waving a brand new player's mistakes in his first couple adventures. "Wait, you mean I'd have to masterwork both ends of the Gnome Hook Hammer, so it'd be 600 gp? Oh. Um, I wouldn't have bought that, if that were the case."
It'd be nice to have some sort of re-build mechanic, but there is nothing. I think even the above example falls under the, "That sucks for you," realm. He would have to sell the item back at half gold, and buy a new one if he wanted to switch after his first adventure. I can't see treating brand-new players that way, is all.
Fascinatingly, if someone "cheats" without knowing it, they *have* to fix it, though. "What do you mean I can't have Weapon Focus as a first level rogue? I have to have a +1 BAB?" That guy has no choice except to pick a new feat and "rebuild" during his first couple adventures.
Back when the APG became official for PFS play, Josh was still in charge and he ruled that the only changes to characters allowed was to adjust playtest characters to match the final rules. Other than that, there was no rebuilding or swapping out allowed.Unless the features of a rebuild character would not have come into play at the pressent level.
Thus a low level character might still be given an archtype from the APG if that optional build's first class features would first be granted at a higher level.
But it is try that Josh ruled no retroactive changes were allowed.
Yep. I was just not including something like that as a "re-build" since you are not replacing something you have already chosen for the character beyond core vs. archetype class.
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That's a pretty cool idea, Kyle. Very elegant. Anyone floated it by Paizo (outside this thread)?
Yes, there's a two page thread floating around in the archives I found before posting this.
What subdomain were you looking at? Many of them have their first alternate ability at levels higher than 2nd. If you're only taking your 2nd cleric level, you may still have some options without needing to actually rebuild anything.
My domains are Good and Protection. Was looking at Defense subdomain. That one in just the first level of cleric particularly swaps the Sanctuary spell for Sheild and Resistant Touch power for Deflection Aura.
I've got a Cleric 2/Rogue 2 build, so I'm past my first few adventures.
