Amulet of Spell Cunning (APG) Clarification

[Suichimo]

Ok, I did a quick search about this and the only thing that it brought up on the forum was someone asking if it was compatible with the Sorcerer's Arcane Bloodline.

My question comes down to its effect.

It says that when used as a Wizard's bonded object it "allows a Wizard to prepare an additional 3 levels of spells per day".

Exactly what does this mean?

[Brogue The Rogue]

I don't have the item in front of me, but if the text reads as you say, that means you can prepare three additional levels of spells each day. You could prepare one third level spell, three first, or a second and a first.

Edit: Just pulled up the APG, and I suppose it is a little vague. I'd likely rule it as I described above, especially considering the spell required to make it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people ruled that it allowed you to simply add three levels of spells as you wish. As in, turning three second level spells into three third level spells. I definitely believe it's the former, but I can't really back my argument, soo . . .

[Skylancer4]

Suichimo wrote:

Ok, I did a quick search about this and the only thing that it brought up on the forum was someone asking if it was compatible with the Sorcerer's Arcane Bloodline.

My question comes down to its effect.

It says that when used as a Wizard's bonded object it "allows a Wizard to prepare an additional 3 levels of spells per day".

Exactly what does this mean?

From the reading I would say it means you could memorize (3) 1st "level" spells, (1) 2nd "level" spell AND (1) 1st "level" spell, or (1) 3rd "level" spell.

Basically think of bonus spell slots and the "level" of the spell using an appropriate level of slots.

[Ravingdork]

Skylancer4 wrote:

Suichimo wrote:

Ok, I did a quick search about this and the only thing that it brought up on the forum was someone asking if it was compatible with the Sorcerer's Arcane Bloodline.

My question comes down to its effect.

It says that when used as a Wizard's bonded object it "allows a Wizard to prepare an additional 3 levels of spells per day".

Exactly what does this mean?

From the reading I would say it means you could memorize (3) 1st "level" spells, (1) 2nd "level" spell AND (1) 1st "level" spell, or (1) 3rd "level" spell.

Basically think of bonus spell slots and the "level" of the spell using an appropriate level of slots.

This is the conclusion I came to as well.

[Set]

The fun of 'levels' being a term with multiple meanings.

Player - "It says I add three levels of spells. Since I'm 4th level, and already have 1st and 2nd level spells, I'll add 3rd level spells, 4th level spells and 5th level spells!"

GM - "No, you won't."

[Uninvited Ghost]

No one particularly chimed in about Sorcerers... also wondering about Improved Arcane Bond from Wayfinder mag...

[Ellessen]

I am not sure how it would work with Sorcerer. The spell it is based on is a Wizard only spell that states:

"Casting this spell allows you to prepare additional spells or retain spells recently cast. Pick one of these two versions when the spell is cast.

Prepare: You prepare up to three additional levels of spells. A cantrip counts as 1/2 level for this purpose. You prepare and cast these spells normally.

Retain: You retain any spell of 3rd level or lower that you had cast up to 1 round before you started casting the mnemonic enhancer. This restores the previously cast spell to your mind.

In either event, the spell or spells prepared or retained fade after 24 hours (if not cast)."

As such by default it should be Wizard only but the way it is stated in the item it seems like it sacrifices the retaining feature to work for anyone who has the arcane bond feature, but only if you prepare your spells.

According to the spell used the equation to design said item is that for a command word item with one daily charge.

(4spell lvl * 7caster lvl * 1,800)/(5/1 charges per day) = 10,080.

They appear to have rounded to 10,000 but remove half the spell and require that you make it your arcane bond item.

With it being a Wizard only spell it should be a Wizard only item thus discounting it 30% making it cost 7,056. I am not sure how to discount half the spell being taken away or making it have to be your arcane bond item but both of those should make it cheaper.

A Wondrous item craftier could make the Amulet for 5k gold according to it's listed price but if they were to make say Glasses of Mnemonic Enhancement using the equation listed above and adding the Wizard only qualifier it would cost 3,528 gold, would have the option of using the retain feature of the spell instead of the preparation only, and would not require it to be your arcane bond item.

Even if it is not a wizard only item and costs 5,040 to craft it should have the full use of the spell and not require your arcane bond unless it has further discounts.

[FarmerBob]

Suichimo wrote:

Exactly what does this mean?

I think it's intended to work similar to a ring of spell storing, at least in terms of what the levels mean.

[Gjorbjond]

I think it's a wizard-only item. It's based off of Mnemonic Enhancer, which is a wizard-only spell.

The only other (admittedly convoluted) option would be to allow it to work for a Witch or Magus who took Eldritch Heritage to get Arcane Bond from the sorcerer arcane bloodline. You must be an arcane caster that prepares spells and has the Arcane Bond class feature.