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So probably like a lot of people, I'm psyched about Diablo 3. Seeing the Demon Hunter got me thinking about how possible that is in D&D. Not so much in 3.5 or 4, but certainly possible in Pathfinder thanks to all the crossbow love.
Obviously you need Two Weapon Fighting, -2/-2.
Grab up Rapid Reload to reload and shoot in the same round.
Now under the Hand Crossbow it says...
"You can shoot, but not load, a hand crossbow with one hand at no penalty."
So does that mean the -2 penalty from light crossbow comes into play?
"Normally, operating a light crossbow requires two hands. However, you can shoot, but not load, a light crossbow with one hand at a –2 penalty on attack rolls."
So check me on this math for dual wielding hand crossbows...
-2/-2 on first attack (assuming their loaded.)
-4/-4 on all other attacks for the rest of combat.
I don't quite understand the question, so I'm just going to describe how it works.
You can fire a hand crossbow in each hand by using the usual two weapon fighting rules. If you have Two Weapon Fighting (the feat), then your attacks are made at a -2 penalty each. I don't see a reason why you'd be at -4/-4.
The problem is in reloading. Once you've fired a shot with each one, you need to somehow free up a hand in order to reload one of them. If you had a third hand, you'd be in business.
The best thing you could do with 2 hand crossbows is shoothing 2 poisoned bolts in a surprise round (with sneak attack maybe ?) and then switch to a melee weapon.
Edit : No sorry, you can't shoot 2 bolts in a surprise round. :\
Make a custom magic crossbow that reloads itself and only requires one hand to use.
In my games we've just taken the auto-loading enchantment and stated it does this. It doesn't make crossbows overpowered or anything.
If your character can cast first level wizard spells, or can talk your party wizard into giving you a hand, Unseen Servant could load your X-bows for you on the cheap. But, for color, I think making your X-bows partly from bone and then casting animate dead on them (creating undead weapons) would be cool - not legal, but cool (and, thus, probably allowable by the GM).
*flaps in and steals undead crossbow* I am the terror that flaps in the night! I am the mammal that lays eggs! *flies headfirst into telephone pole*
If your character can cast first level wizard spells, or can talk your party wizard into giving you a hand, Unseen Servant could load your X-bows for you on the cheap. But, for color, I think making your X-bows partly from bone and then casting animate dead on them (creating undead weapons) would be cool - not legal, but cool (and, thus, probably allowable by the GM).
Now that is an awesome concept!
+1
I just got the same itch of making a Crossbow Dual Wielding Inquisitor.
It is quite feat intensive but makes a super flavor-rp character.
I've came to the following ideas:
1) Take Rapid Reload Feat
2) Have Gloves of Storing
- Gloves of Storing help you release your other hand in order to reload as a free action
- It would be like this: Xbow 1 to Glove -> Reload Xbow 2 -> Shoot Xbow 2 -> Repeat storing with Xbow 1.
3) Also you can do a permanent Wondrous Item with the Reloading Hands Spell in a permanent way.
Let me know what you guys think about it.
I know how to do it with a gunslinger since you can get it all down to a free action to reload both guns and draw them so you free action to holster gun 2 reload gun 1 holster and draw gun 2 reload then draw gun 1 again but... um... with crossbows not having the reload deed and not having alchemical ammo... um... I'm not sure.
what you could do without magic/weird tentacles or whatever is to ask your gm to create repeting hand crossbows, that way you could shoot like 10 bolts with each before reloading
So check me on this math for dual wielding hand crossbows...
-2/-2 on first attack (assuming their loaded.)
-4/-4 on all other attacks for the rest of combat.
Er, no. You shoot a light crossbow one handed at a -2 penalty. You then duel wield at a further -2 penalty. So you first shoot at -4/-4 to hit. You then have two discharged crossbows and have to put one down to reload the other.
If your character can cast first level wizard spells, or can talk your party wizard into giving you a hand, Unseen Servant could load your X-bows for you on the cheap. But, for color, I think making your X-bows partly from bone and then casting animate dead on them (creating undead weapons) would be cool - not legal, but cool (and, thus, probably allowable by the GM).
An unseen servant can only exert 20lbs of force, which is probably not enough to reload a light crossbow (typically 50lb draw) unless it has a windlass (a normal attachment for a heavy crossbow), which slows it down. Also, your unseen servant will be unable to take advantage of Rapid Relaod, as it has no feats.
Having a magical self-reloading crossbow by some method or another is a much better idea. Given the -2 penalty for using the weapon one-handed this is hardly broken, and duel-wielding two light crossbows ends up no more overpowered than using a longbow with Rapid Shot and Many Shot.
Be an Alchemist and take the Vestigial arm discovery. It's the easiest way and it functions in a No Magic Zone
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I don't quite understand the question, so I'm just going to describe how it works.
You can fire a hand crossbow in each hand by using the usual two weapon fighting rules. If you have Two Weapon Fighting (the feat), then your attacks are made at a -2 penalty each. I don't see a reason why you'd be at -4/-4.
The problem is in reloading. Once you've fired a shot with each one, you need to somehow free up a hand in order to reload one of them. If you had a third hand, you'd be in business.
Agreed. Although as a player, I would contrive a leather strap system so I could drop a crossbow, reload, and then use Quick Draw to recover. If the DM did not agree, I would ask for a new feat with Quick Draw as a prereq.
Weapon cords are in the Advanced Player's Guide equipment section (retrieve item with a swift action). There is nothing preventing you from dual-wielding crossbows, although all penalties apply (yes, firing with one hand and two-weapon fighting penalties stack).
See all the threads on gunslingers dual-wielding pistols.
You just need extra arms/tentacles/tails. Alchemists, tieflings, Kasatha, ect. You can also take 2 levels of juggler bard and just toss one crossbow in the air while you reload the other...