Sniper & Zen Archer - Compatibility


Rules Questions


So, I'm creating a Zen Archer with a 3-level dip into the new Rogue (Sniper) class and I want to make sure I understand the relationship between flurry, surprise, and sneak-attacks:

1. The Zen Archer class permits for the use of ranged weapons in a Flurry of Blows attack.

2. The Rogue (Sniper) class permits sneak-attacks with ranged weapons whenever the target is denied its dexterity bonus (as per normal sneak-attack rules)

3. The Surprise Attack rogue talent allows the player to consider opponents flatfooted during the entire surprise round.

Does this mean that a Zen Archer with 3 levels of rogue and Surprise attack can flurry in a surprise round and apply sneak-attack damage to each strike? I apologize if this seems convoluted, and I appreciate any insight you can share.


You only get a standard action in a suprise round. In order to flurry, you must make a full attack, which cannot be done as a standard action.

Scarab Sages

Kolazi wrote:

So, I'm creating a Zen Archer with a 3-level dip into the new Rogue (Sniper) class and I want to make sure I understand the relationship between flurry, surprise, and sneak-attacks:

1. The Zen Archer class permits for the use of ranged weapons in a Flurry of Blows attack.

2. The Rogue (Sniper) class permits sneak-attacks with ranged weapons whenever the target is denied its dexterity bonus (as per normal sneak-attack rules)

3. The Surprise Attack rogue talent allows the player to consider opponents flatfooted during the entire surprise round.

Does this mean that a Zen Archer with 3 levels of rogue and Surprise attack can flurry in a surprise round and apply sneak-attack damage to each strike? I apologize if this seems convoluted, and I appreciate any insight you can share.

Your idea works except for the small part that you can only take a standard or a move action during the surprise round.

So you cannot flurry during the surprise round.
[edit - ninja'd]

Having said that if during the 1st normal round your target has not had their initiative come up to act, they are still flat-footed. In that case yes, Flurry + Sneak Attack should work on all attacks against that target.

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