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As I live in the UK the cost of a book sent by Paizo including postage is high at $55.60 (which I outstand) compared to Amazon.co.uk $36.66 (on the 8th Aug), so I was hopping that a Subscription service could be set up for PDF’s just like the one for hard copys of the books.


Please any chance of a reply to this


From what i have heard Paizo doesn't do subscriptions for the .pdf files, and it doesn't plan to do so any time soon.
Although i would love to (i am in europe too) sadly this thing doesn't exist.

Grand Lodge

You can just buy the PDF files.

The purpose of the subscriptions is to make sure the initial print runs sell out, because books cost to produce and they take up space which also costs money. PDFs don't have that kind of prolem, and Paizo gives you a break by selling them at a major discount already.

Almost every other company that sells you PDFs of a book, does so at the full print price.


LazarX wrote:

You can just buy the PDF files.

You can also just buy the books. :p I'd also love to be able to subscribe to something.


LazarX wrote:

You can just buy the PDF files.

The purpose of the subscriptions is to make sure the initial print runs sell out, because books cost to produce and they take up space which also costs money. PDFs don't have that kind of prolem, and Paizo gives you a break by selling them at a major discount already.

Almost every other company that sells you PDFs of a book, does so at the full print price.

No please I am not after any discount just the option to set up a subscription account with Paizo and have the same perk of a early download as people how have a subscription to a hard copy, and this is just to the price of overseas postage and the wish to support paizo by buying direct (which with me buying the PDF still must be better for Paizo that me going to Amazon and buying the hard copy.

The plus side for me is not having to on the day of release having to place the PDF in a basket and then paying of it, I just want the whole thing automated


Allard wrote:
LazarX wrote:

You can just buy the PDF files.

The purpose of the subscriptions is to make sure the initial print runs sell out, because books cost to produce and they take up space which also costs money. PDFs don't have that kind of prolem, and Paizo gives you a break by selling them at a major discount already.

Almost every other company that sells you PDFs of a book, does so at the full print price.

No please I am not after any discount just the option to set up a subscription account with Paizo and have the same perk of a early download as people how have a subscription to a hard copy, and this is just to the price of overseas postage and the wish to support paizo by buying direct (which with me buying the PDF still must be better for Paizo that me going to Amazon and buying the hard copy.

The plus side for me is not having to on the day of release having to place the PDF in a basket and then paying of it, I just want the whole thing automated

+1

Also don't forget that by doing that (if it was an option) you show to Paizo that you want to (and will) buy every .pdf from a specific line. (so they can calculate money from that when making a budget for a new book).


leo1925 wrote:


+1
Also don't forget that by doing that (if it was an option) you show to Paizo that you want to (and will) buy every .pdf from a specific line. (so they can calculate money from that when making a budget for a new book).

And let's not forget the swank forum title ;)


Slaunyeh wrote:
leo1925 wrote:


+1
Also don't forget that by doing that (if it was an option) you show to Paizo that you want to (and will) buy every .pdf from a specific line. (so they can calculate money from that when making a budget for a new book).
And let's not forget the swank forum title ;)

Yes that too.

Andoran

Ok, even better plan. Just buy a bunch of subscriptions, put my address down and your email down. You'll get the pdfs, I'll get the books, and you'll only have to pay US shipping! My plan is foolproof! Foolproof I say!


brreitz wrote:
Ok, even better plan. Just buy a bunch of subscriptions, put my address down and your email down. You'll get the pdfs, I'll get the books, and you'll only have to pay US shipping! My plan is foolproof! Foolproof I say!

What a good idea.....

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RPG Superstar 2011 Top 4

I like this idea as well. There are several line where I'm not such a big fan of having a hard copy, but would still like to automatically recieve the pdfs.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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We have no plans to offer PDF-only subscriptions.

The main benefit to customers of a PDF subscription vs. individual PDF sales is that a subscription would be more convenient for them. But let's examine the reality of that:


  • Without a PDF subscription, people who only buy PDFs come to our site once a month after they hear that the new volume is shipping (which we always mention in our weekly newsletter, so if they check that regularly, they won't miss it). They add the PDF to their cart and check out, and download the PDF.

  • With a PDF subscription, the process would be very similar—we'd send you an email that it was released, but you'd still have to come to the site and download it. Ok, you'd be making a few less clicks because you can skip the checkout process, but realistically, we're talking about pretty much the same amount of time and effort invested on the customer end.

So let's be honest here: convenience is not drastically improved. The *real* difference is that, presumably, PDF-only subscribers would get their PDF without having to wait for the regular onsale date.

However, every time this topic comes up, we hear from people who say that if we offered a PDF-only subscription, they would drop their print subscription.

Now, print costs are tied strongly to volume—the more copies you print, the less each copy costs. So, the heart of the question for Paizo is this: Would offering a PDF-only subscription cause enough lost print sales that it would noticeably affect print run sizes, which in turn would increase costs (including, possibly, the cover price)?

There are only two potential answers to this question: yes, it would noticeably affect print run sizes; or no, it would not noticeably affect print run sizes.

If the answer is no, there's no problem here; in fact, we might even attract enough PDF subscribers to increase our revenues. (I doubt those increases would be significant, though, since people who are likely to subscribe are already probably buying most of the PDFs individually now.)

However, if the answer is yes, then offering PDF-only subscriptions could cause irreparable harm to our business.

So we have to look at risk vs. reward. The reward for our customers is the ability to get a copy of the PDF about a week earlier than they can right now, and the reward for us is probably not going to be dramatically high. The risk, however, is damaging, or even potentially *crippling* our main business. That's not a risk worth taking.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

If you pick the AP subscription you get a 15% discount. That and free PDFs pretty much offsets the shipping costs to Europe. Currently, subscribing from Paizo is cheaper for me than buying the books in Poland. Go figure.


Would just yes to say thank you to Vic for an answer to my question about PDF’s

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