Who Rules Korvosa?


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Post CotCT, who's in charge of Korvosa? Is it the Seneschal? An heir from Cheliax?

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King of Vrock wrote:
Post CotCT, who's in charge of Korvosa? Is it the Seneschal? An heir from Cheliax?

My PC! Queen Annata Ornelos. She was an orphan and priestess of Sarenrae, but then she drew from the deck of many things and became a noble, so between liberating the city and having a like 22 Charisma, she was in like Flynn.

Read her whole tale here...

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How about in the actual PF continuity?

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The official continuity does not assume that any APs happened. I would take a shot that the Korvosans established some kind of City Council (with promiment CotCT NPCs and perhaps even PCs as members). Something more like Magnimar, where the government system works obviously better.

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King of Vrock wrote:
How about in the actual PF continuity?

There's never going to be a solid "canon" answer for that, or for most of the big things left up in the air in the adventure paths. Stuff like that is meant to be shaped by the players rather than novels or official declarations of canon like what you get in the Knights of the Old Republic series.

It's an explicit choice so that the only answer that matters is the one that happened in your game.

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Currently, Korvosa is ruled by Queen Ileosa, with the king on his deathbed. That's the way it more or less stays until your particular group runs "Curse of the Crimson Throne," and who ends up on the throne at the end of that depends on how things pan out in your game.

IF we ever do a sequel to Curse of the Crimson Throne, we'll need to pick a new ruler for that sequel product only.


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You may as well pick Ernst' character, Annata. That was a well-written campaign journal! :)


Aye..my DM doesn't know this yet but my character in the PBP here on the boards has ambitions in that direction..or will once the story unfolds.


James Jacobs wrote:

Currently, Korvosa is ruled by Queen Ileosa, with the king on his deathbed. That's the way it more or less stays until your particular group runs "Curse of the Crimson Throne," and who ends up on the throne at the end of that depends on how things pan out in your game.

IF we ever do a sequel to Curse of the Crimson Throne, we'll need to pick a new ruler for that sequel product only.

Poor Eodred is going to be wasting away for a long time then. Maybe you could include a sidebar or something in the Inner Sea guide (if it's not too late) with one or more suggestions for how to move the continuity forward in Korvosa and Westcrown even if Curse of the Crimson Throne or Council of Thieves haven't taken place in a particular GM's Golarion, but said GM wants to have them have ocurred in the background? (And I only mention those two, because the other Adventure Paths feel easier to handwave away, somehow.)

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Kajehase wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Currently, Korvosa is ruled by Queen Ileosa, with the king on his deathbed. That's the way it more or less stays until your particular group runs "Curse of the Crimson Throne," and who ends up on the throne at the end of that depends on how things pan out in your game.

IF we ever do a sequel to Curse of the Crimson Throne, we'll need to pick a new ruler for that sequel product only.

Poor Eodred is going to be wasting away for a long time then. Maybe you could include a sidebar or something in the Inner Sea guide (if it's not too late) with one or more suggestions for how to move the continuity forward in Korvosa and Westcrown even if Curse of the Crimson Throne or Council of Thieves haven't taken place in a particular GM's Golarion, but said GM wants to have them have ocurred in the background? (And I only mention those two, because the other Adventure Paths feel easier to handwave away, somehow.)

I'm not all that interested in putting an Adventure Path spoiler like that into print in the core book for the campaign setting.


Kajehase wrote:
Poor Eodred is going to be wasting away for a long time then.

A "long time"????

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but said GM wants to have them have ocurred in the background? (And I only mention those two, because the other Adventure Paths feel easier to handwave away, somehow.)

I'm sure GMs are competent decision-makers for their own campaigns.

James Jacobs wrote:
I'm not all that interested in putting an Adventure Path spoiler like that into print in the core book for the campaign setting.

An excellent decision.


James Jacobs wrote:


I'm not all that interested in putting an Adventure Path spoiler like that into print in the core book for the campaign setting.

Ah, yes. That would be kinda stupid, wouldn't it? ;)


Incidentally, how come pressing the "reply" button on James's latest post brings me to the store blog about Grandmaster Torch?


James Jacobs wrote:


I'm not all that interested in putting an Adventure Path spoiler like that into print in the core book for the campaign setting.

Agreed. One of the key lessons dating from "The Grey in Greyhawk" that Golarion has learned is that the game setting is about the PCs. You make the canon. The PCs are the major forces for good, not some NPCs. There's some printed canon to kick things off, but the results of the adventures aren't part of that - you make your own canon with your own instance of the world, and stepping on that should be absolutely minimized wherever possible.

If they decide they need to do another Korvosa-centric product in the future and can't dance around the topic (something just going through there could get away with "since the new regent took over, there's a lot more guard patrols" or whatever without naming names) then they could do something, but it should always be left until there's a highly compelling reason to do it. Anything else is gratuitously stepping on your campaign and mine.

And, you know, when they do I'd be honored for Annata to be considered for the position :-)


Kajehase wrote:
Incidentally, how come pressing the "reply" button on James's latest post brings me to the store blog about Grandmaster Torch?

The dreaded "messageboard bug." It's why we all have the Firefox plugin Lazarus loaded, so we don't lose our posts that one time in 10 when the forum eats the post. Sometimes it's a timeout, I think if you spend more than 30 minutes on your post it's a virtual certainly, but sometimes it happens at random.

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James Jacobs wrote:

Currently, Korvosa is ruled by Queen Ileosa, with the king on his deathbed. That's the way it more or less stays until your particular group runs "Curse of the Crimson Throne," and who ends up on the throne at the end of that depends on how things pan out in your game.

IF we ever do a sequel to Curse of the Crimson Throne, we'll need to pick a new ruler for that sequel product only.

Huh, I was under the odd impression that it was assumed that some other party completed the events of the AP's if your group didn't...

Ponderous.

Well as I already dropped the Eodred is Dead and the events of CotCT happened I guess I'll just have the Seneschal act as Steward until the nobles or Cheliax feels inclined to install someone.

Either that or run with the inspired idea of

Spoiler:
having the bard Ileosa tries to kill being the illigitimate daughter of Eodred and some concubine.

--Hand that Vrocks the Cradle

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King of Vrock wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Currently, Korvosa is ruled by Queen Ileosa, with the king on his deathbed. That's the way it more or less stays until your particular group runs "Curse of the Crimson Throne," and who ends up on the throne at the end of that depends on how things pan out in your game.

IF we ever do a sequel to Curse of the Crimson Throne, we'll need to pick a new ruler for that sequel product only.

Huh, I was under the odd impression that it was assumed that some other party completed the events of the AP's if your group didn't...

Ponderous.

Well as I already dropped the Eodred is Dead and the events of CotCT happened I guess I'll just have the Seneschal act as Steward until the nobles or Cheliax feels inclined to install someone.

Either that or run with the inspired idea of ** spoiler omitted **

--Hand that Vrocks the Cradle

mmmm that IS an interesting twist on things... I can see that working in a campaign!

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