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100 Decisions that would have spawned an Alternate History


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Crimson Jester wrote:
Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
ESSEL wrote:
Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:


196] The library of Alexandria is never burned and scholars have access to the span of Ancient history, resulting in the archaeological location of Atlantis.

But we know where Atlantis was: on the now Greek island of Santorin!

This hollow island was a volcano that erupted in 1500 BC, destroying the Atlantis people.

That location doesn't explain Cocaine being found on Egyptian mummies...(which would require trade with South America.) That's but one problem with Thera...
Linked

Thanks...at work, not enough time to look up links =D


Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:


That location doesn't explain Cocaine being found on Egyptian mummies...(which would require trade with South America.) That's but one problem with Thera...

Bah It was some archaeologist snorting coke off a mummy - those guys are hard core - Look at guys from Time Team. :-)


226) Mars' core doesn’t cool down and keeps it's stronger magnetic field and atmosphere allowing advanced life forms to evolve. The life on mars doesn’t develop abstract thought.

All civilizations on earth view Mars as the home of the gods and strive to be the first to travel there.
Florence is the first to reach in rockets designed by Leonardo daVinci.
By the end of the 18th century England, France, Russia and the Dutch all have colonies on Mars with a population of millions.

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Xabulba wrote:

226) Mars' core doesn’t cool down and keeps it's stronger magnetic field and atmosphere allowing advanced life forms to evolve. The life on mars doesn’t develop abstract thought.

All civilizations on earth view Mars as the home of the gods and strive to be the first to travel there.
Florence is the first to reach in rockets designed by Leonardo daVinci.
By the end of the 18th century England, France, Russia and the Dutch all have colonies on Mars with a population of millions.

I like that one! Wooden Rocket Ships lined with lead...

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Xabulba wrote:

226) Mars' core doesn’t cool down and keeps it's stronger magnetic field and atmosphere allowing advanced life forms to evolve. The life on mars doesn’t develop abstract thought.

I don't think the laws of physics are quite as subject to whim as Human history. Mars simply has several things going against it, chiefly being it's small size and greater distance from the Sun. I think it's core is not quite the iron-nickle composite that Earth's is so despite the fact that the planet does have a decent rotation, it simply does not have a significant magnetic field.

Earth also had one big thing in it's favor, the presence of a large satelite that stablised it's axial tilt. The Martian tilt is known to vary considerably over long periods of time.


LazarX wrote:
Xabulba wrote:

226) Mars' core doesn’t cool down and keeps it's stronger magnetic field and atmosphere allowing advanced life forms to evolve. The life on mars doesn’t develop abstract thought.

I don't think the laws of physics are quite as subject to whim as Human history. Mars simply has several things going against it, chiefly being it's small size and greater distance from the Sun. I think it's core is not quite the iron-nickle composite that Earth's is so despite the fact that the planet does have a decent rotation, it simply does not have a significant magnetic field.

Earth also had one big thing in it's favor, the presence of a large satelite that stablised it's axial tilt. The Martian tilt is known to vary considerably over long periods of time.

True - but Earth's magnetic poles have flip-flopped all over the place - not to mention that the direction in which the sun is seen to rise and set has changed 3 times in recorded history... keeps things interesting it does.

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yellowdingo wrote:


34. British Government decides to Sell their convict population into Slavery in the USA.

The Brits typically used their remote colonies as dumping grounds for unwanted petty criminals. "Transportation" at first to America, and then the Oceanic colonies of Austrailia and New Zealand was a common punnishment. Britain however itself had outlawed slavery on it's home turf long before the American colonies were founded.

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Turin the Mad wrote:


True - but Earth's magnetic poles have flip-flopped all over the place - not to mention that the direction in which the sun is seen to rise and set has changed 3 times in recorded history... keeps things interesting it does.

But again, your language is implying a random process when it's not. the magnetic cycle is one of Earth's periodic rhythms. The Sun because of it's gaseous nature does the exact same thing over a period of 27 days.

The latter no. the Sun has always risen from the East and set in the West. There have been optical illusions which have caused weird refractions and reflections, but the direction of sunrise and sunset has not changed. It's the continents themselves which have and still are changing places, but not in the scale of Human History


LazarX wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


True - but Earth's magnetic poles have flip-flopped all over the place - not to mention that the direction in which the sun is seen to rise and set has changed 3 times in recorded history... keeps things interesting it does.

But again, your language is implying a random process when it's not. the magnetic cycle is one of Earth's periodic rhythms. The Sun because of it's gaseous nature does the exact same thing over a period of 27 days.

The latter no. the Sun has always risen from the East and set in the West. There have been optical illusions which have caused weird refractions and reflections, but the direction of sunrise and sunset has not changed. It's the continents themselves which have and still are changing places, but not in the scale of Human History

I do not have direct quotations, but - if I have the name spelled correctly - Immanuel Velikovski noted both of the above. Where the magnetic poles orient is recorded geologically and records from ancient China, the Americas and Egypt indicate the change of where the sun has risen in ancient timesagain, if my memory of what he stated says all indicate the same thing.

I am not familiar with the magnetic cycle - that should make some interesting reading - thanks!


227) The Germs part of guns germs and steel works in reverse. Conquistadors and early explorers of the new world return to Europe with multiple variant strains of highly infectious diseases that kill off 50% of Europe's population.

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228. American inventor Dr. Richard J. Gatling is considered a Copperhead (a supporter of the South - he wasnt) by the more violent supporters of the Union Cause in his home town. After Acts of Violence against him and the murder of his family for his 'Southern Leanings', Gatling flees his residence and his designs for the Gatling gun fall into the hands of someone with actual leanings toward the South. Consequently The Confederacy deploy Gatling Guns toward the end of the War with a Large version manufactured for Ships.

Union forces begin losing ground in Conflicts, and Naval Ships find themselves vulnerable to the excessive fire rate of this monstrous weapon - even Ironclads prove vulnerable.

The War on Slavery stalls and extends by several years.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:

227) The Germs part of guns germs and steel works in reverse. Conquistadors and early explorers of the new world return to Europe with multiple variant strains of highly infectious diseases that kill off 50% of Europe's population.

I kinda sorta already did that one.

Kerney wrote:

136) 8000 BCE Native Americans begin to domesticate the Columbian Mammouth and at least one breed of horse. As a result, many more diseases cross the species line, giving rise to scores of diseases which the Native Americans develop immunity to but whom European explorers have none. As a result explorers bring a score of such diseases home. Both the Americas and the Old World suffer the greatest pandemic of all time, with an 80-90% decline worldwide in population by 1700.

Let's do a fun one:

229) Dec 7th 1941 Admiral Yammamotto begins his assault on Pearl Harbor confident of swift victory. The reason why; Kami sensai, Shinto priests who can literally summon Kami; Japanese spirits/dieties to fight for Japan, who creating literal divine winds, tidal waves and other such effects.
For the first year the United States suffers defeat after defeat, until the U.S. Army comes up with a unique solution. Native American Medicine Men are recruited to to counter the Shinto Priests. These "code talkers" are much more respectful of the spirits they are presuading these spirits to aid the allies.

That and Amatarasu-Omkami's aid to the allies in the invention of the A-bomb help to end the war pretty much on schedule.

All the Best,

Kerney


Kerney wrote:


Let's do a fun one:

229) Dec 7th 1941 Admiral Yammamotto begins his assault on Pearl Harbor confident of swift victory. The reason why; Kami sensai, Shinto priests who can literally summon Kami; Japanese spirits/dieties to fight for Japan, who creating literal divine winds, tidal waves and other such effects.
For the first year the United States suffers defeat after defeat, until the U.S. Army comes up with a unique solution. Native American Medicine Men are recruited to to counter the Shinto Priests. These "code talkers" are much more respectful of the spirits they are presuading these spirits to aid the allies.

That and Amatarasu-Omkami's aid to the allies in the invention of the A-bomb help to end the war pretty much on schedule.

All the Best,

Kerney

The Australian military asks for help from the kadji Aboriginal "sorcerers" and the Wandjina the spirits of the Dreaming. The battle along the Kokoda trail in New Guinea is still terrible with the Japanese marines and accompanying Shinto turning to cannibalism and dark rights(happened in real life, the Japanese ran out of food and started eating Australian prisoners).

With the aid of the powers of the Dreamtime the Australians successfully drive the Japanese back into northern New Guinea. (Australians did this in the real world, they had the first land victory over the Japanese).

With a new found power, role and respect the Aboriginal people are treated better and reparations for the terrible crimes committed in the name of colonisation are made.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Kerney wrote:


Let's do a fun one:

229) Dec 7th 1941 Admiral Yammamotto begins his assault on Pearl Harbor confident of swift victory. The reason why; Kami sensai, Shinto priests who can literally summon Kami; Japanese spirits/dieties to fight for Japan, who creating literal divine winds, tidal waves and other such effects.
For the first year the United States suffers defeat after defeat, until the U.S. Army comes up with a unique solution. Native American Medicine Men are recruited to to counter the Shinto Priests. These "code talkers" are much more respectful of the spirits they are presuading these spirits to aid the allies.

That and Amatarasu-Omkami's aid to the allies in the invention of the A-bomb help to end the war pretty much on schedule.

All the Best,

Kerney

The Australian military asks for help from the kadji Aboriginal "sorcerers" and the Wandjina the spirits of the Dreaming. The battle along the Kokoda trail in New Guinea is still terrible with the Japanese marines and accompanying Shinto turning to cannibalism and dark rights(happened in real life, the Japanese ran out of food and started eating Australian prisoners).

With the aid of the powers of the Dreamtime the Australians successfully drive the Japanese back into northern New Guinea. (Australians did this in the real world, they had the first land victory over the Japanese).

With a new found power, role and respect the Aboriginal people are treated better and reparations for the terrible crimes committed in the name of colonisation are made.

+1

Qadira

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Kerney wrote:


Let's do a fun one:

229) Dec 7th 1941 Admiral Yammamotto begins his assault on Pearl Harbor confident of swift victory. The reason why; Kami sensai, Shinto priests who can literally summon Kami; Japanese spirits/dieties to fight for Japan, who creating literal divine winds, tidal waves and other such effects.
For the first year the United States suffers defeat after defeat, until the U.S. Army comes up with a unique solution. Native American Medicine Men are recruited to to counter the Shinto Priests. These "code talkers" are much more respectful of the spirits they are presuading these spirits to aid the allies.

That and Amatarasu-Omkami's aid to the allies in the invention of the A-bomb help to end the war pretty much on schedule.

All the Best,

Kerney

The medicine men instead decides to instead band together and call up spirits to fight the U.S. so they can establish an independent native american nation, the shamans begin the Great Ghost Dance (Shadowrun inspiration). The U.S. capitulates against the combined kami and medicine men spirit assaults.

:-P


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Whited Sepulcher wrote:
Kerney wrote:


Let's do a fun one:

229) Dec 7th 1941 Admiral Yammamotto begins his assault on Pearl Harbor confident of swift victory. The reason why; Kami sensai, Shinto priests who can literally summon Kami; Japanese spirits/dieties to fight for Japan, who creating literal divine winds, tidal waves and other such effects.
For the first year the United States suffers defeat after defeat, until the U.S. Army comes up with a unique solution. Native American Medicine Men are recruited to to counter the Shinto Priests. These "code talkers" are much more respectful of the spirits they are presuading these spirits to aid the allies.

That and Amatarasu-Omkami's aid to the allies in the invention of the A-bomb help to end the war pretty much on schedule.

All the Best,

Kerney

The medicine men instead decides to instead band together and call up spirits to fight the U.S. so they can establish an independent native american nation, the shamans begin the Great Ghost Dance (Shadowrun inspiration). The U.S. capitulates against the combined kami and medicine men spirit assaults.

:-P

The great Dragons Dunkelzahn (The Big D), Lofwyr, Aden, Hestaby, Alamais and Shirrush, Awaken and take an active role in world war 2.

As both sides use more and more magic and eventually atomic weapons a rift is opened and the Horrors pour through.

Earth turned into wasteland with small enclaves of civilisation struggling to survive. A Diesel Punk dystopia, mixing magic meta-humans, elder evils and world war 2 technology.

Qadira

Will any of you be submitting to the Terry Pratchett Prize?

80 thousand words of Alternate History by mid December...

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yellowdingo wrote:

Will any of you be submitting to the Terry Pratchett Prize?

80 thousand words of Alternate History by mid December...

Could you give us a link?

Take Care,

Kerney


230) The Great Ghost Dance works the first time around. There is a mass extinction event with respect to anglo-descended humanity on the North American Continent. The african-descended humans left behind in their wake either join native american tribes or form their own communities.

231) Due to poor aim, Abraham Lincoln is gravely wounded, not assassinated. He finishes the rest of his term and is inspired by the actions of the first African-american military unit, and relies upon propagandists to play up their contributions to the war. In the war's final days, when free blacks have swollen their numbers to beyond belief, sends them on an expeditionary voyage to Liberia.

Qadira

http://www.terrypratchett.co.uk/news/termsandconditions.html

Link to Terry Pratchett Prize

Qadira

One point of order, I thought that this was about decisions?

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Crimson Jester wrote:
One point of order, I thought that this was about decisions?

Odd that...starts out being about decisions and escalates into messed up alt reality psudofantasy.

232. Sean Robert Meaney decides to not run for Mayor of Darwin, consequently the Mayoral Election of 2008 is dominated 100% by the sort of individuals you would swerve to hit with your pickup...as opposed to that one individual you would go out of your way to assassinate because he intends to ban the sale of beer.

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yellowdingo wrote:

http://www.terrypratchett.co.uk/news/termsandconditions.html

Link to Terry Pratchett Prize

Thank you. Unfortunately thanks to the efforts of George Washington, Nathaniel Greene, Benjamin Franklin and many others I am unable to compete.

Now for another alternate history. 8th Dwarf forgot to number his dragon universe so I guess our number is off by one, so I am 234.

234) Dr Who has a basis in reality. It is the efforts of the Muggle Worthy excuse commitee of the Potter universe to disguise the 1st war with Voldemort (they got the idea from the Japanese, who used simular tactics to hide the flightless Dragon migrations). That is based in reality, and they realised they couldn't hide it as well, so they disguised the war as children's books.
The revival of Dr. Who is an attempt to educate muggles about real dangers, for example, magical infestations like those in Wester-Drumlin.

All the best,

Kerney


It was 229.b Mine was attached to yours as you were going all great ghost dancy I was adding the great dragons from Shadowrun universe.

235) During Lieutenant General John Monash preparations for the successful battle of Le Hamel, General Pershing, allows Monash, to make full use of American troops instead of pulling as many men out of the battle as he could at the last minute.

The fresh American troops under the guidance of the Australian veterans help the battle go beyond the successful demonstration of Monash's combined arms (Artillery, Aircraft, Tanks and Infantry, which was picked up by Guderian in his development of blitzkrieg)tactics. The Australians and Americans roll on pushing the front back several kilometres and creating a salient.

The experience at Le Hamel latter helps the American troops avoid the mistakes they make at the Battle of Amiens. The Australian divisions are able to leapfrog from the successful American gains (instead of having to stop and help them) and the hole punched in the German lines forces the whole German army to fall back to regroup. The war is shortened by months.

The King and Prime Minster Lloyd George force Field marshal Hague to retire replacing him with The Canadian Arthur Currie.

The Germans surrender not long after.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:

It was 229.b Mine was attached to yours as you were going all great ghost dancy I was adding the great dragons from Shadowrun universe.

235) During Lieutenant General John Monash preparations for the successful battle of Le Hamel, General Pershing, allows Monash, to make full use of American troops instead of pulling as many men out of the battle as he could at the last minute.

The fresh American troops under the guidance of the Australian veterans help the battle go beyond the successful demonstration of Monash's combined arms (Artillery, Aircraft, Tanks and Infantry, which was picked up by Guderian in his development of blitzkrieg)tactics. The Australians and Americans roll on pushing the front back several kilometres and creating a salient.

The experience at Le Hamel latter helps the American troops avoid the mistakes they make at the Battle of Amiens. The Australian divisions are able to leapfrog from the successful American gains (instead of having to stop and help them) and the hole punched in the German lines forces the whole German army to fall back to regroup. The war is shortened by months.

The King and Prime Minster Lloyd George force Field marshal Hague to retire replacing him with The Canadian Arthur Currie.

The Germans surrender not long after.

Thats a gutsy reassessment of WW1 events. Might have even saved the Australians from being bogged down in the sort of Trench Warfare which defined our military in Northern Europe. Dang it...No Hill 60 film

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Turin the Mad wrote:


I do not have direct quotations, but - if I have the name spelled correctly - Immanuel Velikovsky noted both of the above. Where the magnetic poles orient is recorded geologically and records from ancient China, the Americas and Egypt indicate the change of where the sun has risen in ancient timesagain, if my memory of what he stated says all indicate the same thing.

I am not familiar with the magnetic cycle - that should make some interesting reading - thanks!

It's Veilikovsky and that's the name of a strangely popular paragon of crackpot science which propounded a history of strange catclysmic events in the Solar System's early history. He also claimed that Venus was originally a comet that was spat out of Jupiter, and that was his milder stuff. I believed that he also claimed that while Venus was scooting around in comet form it took a several day stint as the Star that guided the wise men to Bethlehem.

If we're talking alternate histories, the idea is to keep to SOME measure of plausibility.


236) Julius Caesar decides to confront Achillas directly instead of burning his own ships. As such the Library of Alexandria in not burnt in 48.BC. A great love of the Library is cultivated in the years since and many more branches are made. This results in Theophilus, Bishop of Alexandria, not deciding to burn the Serapeum in 391, but rather reconsecrating it to the Seraphim in that year.

As a result much knowledge of the ancient world is not lost and though the world still goes through a dark age it is much shorter and a much less destructive force in the lives of the ancient world.


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237) Woodrow Wilson decides not to intervene in the European Great War. As a result, the Great War ends two years earlier on much more equitable terms, World War II never happens, and Western Civilization is saved.

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The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:

236) Julius Caesar decides to confront Achillas directly instead of burning his own ships. As such the Library of Alexandria in not burnt in 48.BC. A great love of the Library is cultivated in the years since and many more branches are made. This results in Theophilus, Bishop of Alexandria, not deciding to burn the Serapeum in 391, but rather reconsecrating it to the Seraphim in that year.

As a result much knowledge of the ancient world is not lost and though the world still goes through a dark age it is much shorter and a much less destructive force in the lives of the ancient world.

Actually the critical loss was not the accidental fire caused by Ceasar's troups, but the burning down of the Seraphum the daughter library used by the Alexandrian scholars as ordred by Bishop Theophillus in the year 391.later to be come Pope of the Coptic branch of Christianity.

One thing to note though, even during the Library's height that information was not widely shared even among the scholars that frequented the library. At the time the library was finally destroyed, there were few that mourned it's passing.

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237) Woodrow Wilson decides not to intervene in the European Great War. As a result, the Great War ends two years earlier on much more equitable terms, World War II never happens, and Western Civilization is saved.

Actually I would imagine that the war would have gone on longer. Both sides were in serious stalemate until the American entrance in 1917 following the sinking of the Luistania.


238) Due to constant infighting, the revolution that would have resulted in the creation of Panama never occurs. Columbia grows rich off of the canal created through its isthmus, and the later drug trade wanes as a result.


Freehold DM wrote:
238) Due to constant infighting, the revolution that would have resulted in the creation of Panama never occurs. Columbia grows rich off of the canal created through its isthmus, and the later drug trade wanes as a result.

238B) This wealth and prosperity causes an influx of immigration from the north as Mexicans and Guatemalans move south for work.


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LazarX wrote:
NPC Dave wrote:
237) Woodrow Wilson decides not to intervene in the European Great War. As a result, the Great War ends two years earlier on much more equitable terms, World War II never happens, and Western Civilization is saved.
Actually I would imagine that the war would have gone on longer. Both sides were in serious stalemate until the American entrance in 1917 following the sinking of the Luistania.

Of course, this whole thread is all about speculation, but the chance that the war could have gone on any longer than it did is very unlikely.

Stalemates with men dying every day don't sell well to populations back home. They would have forced their rulers to make peace, or the armies themselves would have done so.

There were widespread mutinies in the French, Italian, and Russian armies. Revolution toppled Russia in 1917. Had the war continued, the armies would have collapsed and mutinied. France alone lost nearly 3 million young men. Half a generation of women in England became spinsters because there were so few men to marry.

And that was with the USA supporting the British and French before they actually entered the war, the US engaged with significant manpower on the war front for about 5-6 months.

Similar situation with the Vietnam War. While the US government has never admitted it this as a reason the Vietnam War was brought to a close, near the end the US army was close to collapsing with soldiers ready to mutiny and refusing to obey orders.

And I am not the one who came up with that comparison , Col Robert Heinl wrote the following in 1971 in the Armed Forces Journal

"Our army that now remains in Vietnam is in a state approaching collapse, with individual units avoiding or having refused combat, murdering their officers and noncommissioned officers, drug-ridden, and dispirited where not near-mutinous... conditions [exist] among American forces in Vietnam that have only been exceeded in this century by the French Army’s Nivelle mutinies of 1917 and the collapse of the Tsarist armies in 1916 and 1917."

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238) Due to constant infighting, the revolution that would have resulted in the creation of Panama never occurs. Columbia grows rich off of the canal created through its isthmus, and the later drug trade wanes as a result.

Perhaps It grows Rich off a Drug Trade not with North America but with Africa - Diamonds become the Number one Export for Africa in Trade of Drugs from South America. While Diamonds out of South Africa continue to fall in the hands of De Beers, An influx of Weapons dealers and South American Narcotics Traders Begin extracting Diamonds from the Ivory Coast in Payment for their goods.

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Working on my Alternate History Fiction:

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239) Human hunting technology lags slightly from our world, which means many Ice age species survive. [url]http://www.livescience.com/history/ancient-climate-change-man-made-100701.h tml]Resulting[/url] in the Younger Dryas leading to the start of another Ice age and a recovery of the Ice Age Fauna otherwise hunted to extinction.

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Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden does not die in battle at Lutzen in 1632. Sweden continues to grow in military strength and becomes an even more significant player in European politics.

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241. The US President decides that it would be Morally apprehensible to drop a nuke on heavily populated Japanese cities just to take out the Ports. Instead, they develop Nuclear weapons as the payload to a Long range Torpedo secretly placing Nukes in the Harbours of every Japanese Port. The Explosions devour Japan's Naval facilities without too much damage to the Urban populace.

Consequently the Long Range Bomber and and Refueling Aircraft are not developes as Nuclear Weapons Systems become focused on Missiles and Torpedos.


After second thoughts there is no wardrobe malfunction at the halftime superbowl performance of Janet Jackson.

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The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
After second thoughts there is no wardrobe malfunction at the halftime superbowl performance of Janet Jackson.

Boo! I support Naked Women Performing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Indeed All Sports must be played Naked in the Ancient Greek Style.

243. The US Government decides that a ban on the Sale of Alcohol is not the Solution. The real cause of the problem is Lewdness and Clothing of a Sex accentuating style. As of Monday it is illegal for anyone to wear anything other than Overalls and work-boots. This new ruling forces Women to Wear Overalls just like men.


yellowdingo wrote:
The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
After second thoughts there is no wardrobe malfunction at the halftime superbowl performance of Janet Jackson.

Boo! I support Naked Women Performing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Indeed All Sports must be played Naked in the Ancient Greek Style.

243. The US Government decides that a ban on the Sale of Alcohol is not the Solution. The real cause of the problem is Lewdness and Clothing of a Sex accentuating style. As of Monday it is illegal for anyone to wear anything other than Overalls and work-boots. This new ruling forces Women to Wear Overalls just like men.

244(not sure if this has been done already, but this got me thinking...). Dismissing the outcry of the Temperance Movement as religious bunk, the 18th Amendment is defeated.


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yellowdingo wrote:
The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
After second thoughts there is no wardrobe malfunction at the halftime superbowl performance of Janet Jackson.

Boo! I support Naked Women Performing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Indeed All Sports must be played Naked in the Ancient Greek Style.

243. The US Government decides that a ban on the Sale of Alcohol is not the Solution. The real cause of the problem is Lewdness and Clothing of a Sex accentuating style. As of Monday it is illegal for anyone to wear anything other than Overalls and work-boots. This new ruling forces Women to Wear Overalls just like men.

244(not sure if this has been done already, but this got me thinking...). Dismissing the outcry of the Temperance Movement as religious bunk, the 18th Amendment is defeated.

245)Or it is never repealed and other substances are added to a growing list of immoral activities. The first Playboy is never published and other "adult" magazines as well. George Carlin is sent to jail for his "criminal" stage routine. Elvis Presley is more famous for being in trouble for his dancing and then jail time for it then for his music. TV is stuck in the 1950's censorship and there is never a movie made with more then a PG-13 rating.


The US doesn't enter the First World War and the conflict resolves through peace negotiations backeed by the Americans with Germany in remaining reasonably strong. As a result of American troops not fighting in Europe, however, and influenza outbreak occurs in Kansas and becomes known as the Kansas flu but doesn't spread too far beyond the state due to quarantine measures. The flu outbreak in our timeline was called the Spanish flu because the Spanish King was one of the more prominent victims, but it actually originated on a farm in Kansas.

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Steven Purcell wrote:
The US doesn't enter the First World War and the conflict resolves through peace negotiations backeed by the Americans with Germany in remaining reasonably strong. As a result of American troops not fighting in Europe, however, and influenza outbreak occurs in Kansas and becomes known as the Kansas flu but doesn't spread too far beyond the state due to quarantine measures. The flu outbreak in our timeline was called the Spanish flu because the Spanish King was one of the more prominent victims, but it actually originated on a farm in Kansas.

You have a problem there. The US only entered the First world war late because quite a few of US citizens were volunteering to Join of their own activities. If anything a stronger Germany might push for the prosecution of US Citizens fighting with the Commonwealth as Mercenaries and freebooters.


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247) In a fit of pique, King George travels to the rebellious colonies to oversee the warfare himself at least in part. George Washington, sensing an opportunity, challenges his royal namesake to a duel, which is accepted. What starts off as sabers at sunset devolves into a knock down, drag out brawl between the two, which ends only when George Washington snaps King George's neck. This act keeps personal duels alive as a primarily American tradition long into the 21st century.

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Freehold DM wrote:
247) In a fit of pique, King George travels to the rebellious colonies to oversee the warfare himself at least in part. George Washington, sensing an opportunity, challenges his royal namesake to a duel, which is accepted. What starts off as sabers at sunset devolves into a knock down, drag out brawl between the two, which ends only when George Washington snaps King George's neck. This act keeps personal duels alive as a primarily American tradition long into the 21st century.

I would have thought the failure of both parties to adhere to the Umpire's ruling would have undermined the credibility of the Duel as a legitimate method of conflict resolution - proving it little more than the excuse of the more violent to seek victory thorough violence instead of the Written Words of Diplomacy and Law.

Firstly King George would not have engaged rifraff like Washington directly but through a Second who would have been very skilled at the Weapons of Choice. So Washington would have been met by at least his equal if not better.
There are far too many vested interests in this matter to allow it to fall to the prowess of one or the Other by Sword so at some point a Sniper attempts to hit one Goeorge or the other with a bullet forcing the conflict to break up and plunging the two nations into mistrust and eventualy Open War this time with an understanding that American Diplomacy must be assumed to be a delaying Tactic as they manouver their troops.
WIthout continuous attempts at diplomacy the Americans continue to be considered 'Terrorist Rabble' and more millitary effort is focused on the Civilian Population supporting American Troops resulting in the Poisoning of water supplies and the use of Biological Weapons. A wagon Load of blankets from Small Pox and Plague Victims is used to descimate the American Populations.


yellowdingo wrote:

Sure we all know about that US plan to invade Canada if Britain fell to the Nazis(wwii) or the Hun(wwi)...but what little thing could have spawned a 360 degree change in direction down an alternate history?

100 Pivotal Moments

1. The first sexual male decides to be celebate, and not mate with that wiggly female in the breeding pool.

Total game changer dude!

In service,

Rich
www.drgames.org

Qadira

DrGames wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:

Sure we all know about that US plan to invade Canada if Britain fell to the Nazis(wwii) or the Hun(wwi)...but what little thing could have spawned a 360 degree change in direction down an alternate history?

100 Pivotal Moments

1. The first sexual male decides to be celebate, and not mate with that wiggly female in the breeding pool.

Total game changer dude!

In service,

Rich
www.drgames.org

Given the recent Miracle pregnancy with quintuplets in Australia - The Female is capable of self fertilization and this may have been how the first humans came about - not through sex with men but by self fertilized females. Making Men the rubbish dead end of the species.


yellowdingo wrote:
Steven Purcell wrote:
The US doesn't enter the First World War and the conflict resolves through peace negotiations backeed by the Americans with Germany in remaining reasonably strong. As a result of American troops not fighting in Europe, however, and influenza outbreak occurs in Kansas and becomes known as the Kansas flu but doesn't spread too far beyond the state due to quarantine measures. The flu outbreak in our timeline was called the Spanish flu because the Spanish King was one of the more prominent victims, but it actually originated on a farm in Kansas.
You have a problem there. The US only entered the First world war late because quite a few of US citizens were volunteering to Join of their own activities. If anything a stronger Germany might push for the prosecution of US Citizens fighting with the Commonwealth as Mercenaries and freebooters.

My post was actually intended to be a what would have happened if the Spanish Flu pandemic hadn't occurred because the virus that caused it was contained but I went a bit off track. So let's try again

The US doesn't enter the First World War. As a result, massive numbers of young men stay on the farms in Kansas and other neighbouring states. A local influenza epidemic, the Kansas Flu, occurs, but quarantine measures prevent it from spreading too far and the rest of the world has millions of people live past 1918-1919.

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