paizo.com Recent Posts in 4e conversion?paizo.com Recent Posts in 4e conversion?2012-11-15T22:44:43Z2012-11-15T22:44:43ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Amaranthehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#402012-01-24T16:58:57Z2012-01-24T16:58:57Z<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>Is it still possible to get a copy of whatever you already designed as Kingmaker convertion to the 4e ?</p>
<p>I'm running my first kingmaker session in a tenth of days and would be happy to have some material to compare with what i have in mind...</p>
<p>My PCs will most probably start at 8th level. </p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Amaranthe (at) free (dot) fr</p>Hi there,
Is it still possible to get a copy of whatever you already designed as Kingmaker convertion to the 4e ?
I'm running my first kingmaker session in a tenth of days and would be happy to have some material to compare with what i have in mind...
My PCs will most probably start at 8th level.
Thanks in advance.
Amaranthe (at) free (dot) frAmaranthe2012-01-24T16:58:57ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Cintra Bristolhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#392012-01-13T04:09:50Z2012-01-13T04:09:50Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Fletch wrote:</div><blockquote><p> What interests me the most here is a 4e version of kingdom building and armies.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on how those would be adapted to 4th? </blockquote><p>For <b>kingdom building</b>, you have two choices. The easier (but oddly, more problematic) is to set a specific BP value for the magic item slots, rather than rolling items. But this leaves you with the arguably-broken magic item economy, which doesn't really fit 4E. If you want to go this route, I actually ran the average values generated by the original system (assuming a common house rule that items worth less than 4000gp could be saved up and sold for accumulated BPs) and here's what I came up with:
<p>MINOR: 89% are worth 0.1 BP, 11% are worth 2BP. Average value 0.309 BP.
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MEDIUM: 29% are worth 0.2 BP, 71% are worth 8 BP. Avg value 6 (5.738).
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MAJOR: 15% are worth 0.33 BP, 85% are worth 15 BP. Avg value 13 (12.8).</p>
<p>The more complex solution is to <b>rebalance all the buildings</b> and in the process, completely eliminate the magic item economy. You can either try to increase the Econ values to make up for this, or not (and let your PCs take longer to get their kingdoms to be profitable).</p>
<p>I've actually got a version that I'm reasonably happy with, but it's completely untested - my group is still in the middle of the first book. I think <a href="http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz440k?Has-anyone-improved-Kingmaker-kingdom-building#8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this link</a> will get you to a version I posted a while back. PLEASE simply eliminate the Slave Pen entry from what I wrote there - as was discussed later in that thread, it's a bad, bad idea. :)</p>
<p>As for <b>armies</b>, I'm still looking for a good solution.</p>Fletch wrote:What interests me the most here is a 4e version of kingdom building and armies.
Any thoughts on how those would be adapted to 4th?
For kingdom building, you have two choices. The easier (but oddly, more problematic) is to set a specific BP value for the magic item slots, rather than rolling items. But this leaves you with the arguably-broken magic item economy, which doesn't really fit 4E. If you want to go this route, I actually ran the average values generated by the original...Cintra Bristol2012-01-13T04:09:50ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Fletchhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#382012-01-12T16:40:27Z2012-01-12T16:40:27Z<p>What interests me the most here is a 4e version of kingdom building and armies.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on how those would be adapted to 4th?</p>What interests me the most here is a 4e version of kingdom building and armies.
Any thoughts on how those would be adapted to 4th?Fletch2012-01-12T16:40:27ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?bmars3https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#372012-01-12T15:30:50Z2012-01-12T15:30:50Z<p>Me too, please.</p>
<p>bmars3@yahoo.com</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>Me too, please.
bmars3@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance.bmars32012-01-12T15:30:50ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Arasaka_auhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#362012-01-12T10:36:15Z2012-01-12T10:36:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
<br />
<p>I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
<br />
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.</p>
<p>I have:
<br />
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random encounter table.</p>
<p>- MS Word Document 2: conversion of encounter areas.</blockquote></blockquote><p>Hi Banesfinger,
<p>I appreciate you sharing your hard work, and would be very happy if you could please email me a copy of your conversion too!</p>
<p>arasaka_au@hotmail.com</p>
<p>Many thanks in advance!</p>Banesfinger wrote:I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.
I have:
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random encounter table.
- MS Word Document 2: conversion of encounter areas.
Hi Banesfinger, I appreciate you sharing your hard...Arasaka_au2012-01-12T10:36:15ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Mythknighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#352011-12-19T18:43:48Z2011-12-19T18:43:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Cintra Bristol wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I'd love to receive these documents also.</p>
<p>cintrabristol at comcast.net </blockquote><p>I would love these documents as I am running a PbP 4E version of Kingmaker. Any assistance is always appreciated.
<p>Mithknight@gmail.com</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>Cintra Bristol wrote:I'd love to receive these documents also.
cintrabristol at comcast.net
I would love these documents as I am running a PbP 4E version of Kingmaker. Any assistance is always appreciated. Mithknight@gmail.com
Thank you.Mythknight2011-12-19T18:43:48ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?DoomCrowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#342011-10-15T02:05:49Z2011-10-15T02:05:49Z<p>Convert Pathfinder to 4e? </p>
<p>Blasphemy.</p>Convert Pathfinder to 4e?
Blasphemy.DoomCrow2011-10-15T02:05:49ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?EasyMJhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#332011-10-15T01:26:52Z2011-10-15T01:26:52Z<p>Hello !</p>
<p>I'm going to start the Kingmaker campaign, if you could email your 4e conversions that would be great.</p>
<p>fgude@free.fr</p>
<p>Thanks !</p>Hello !
I'm going to start the Kingmaker campaign, if you could email your 4e conversions that would be great.
fgude@free.fr
Thanks !EasyMJ2011-10-15T01:26:52ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?NewJeffCThttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#322011-04-04T22:19:03Z2011-04-04T22:19:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">ghaladen wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Same here I may run a 4e group through Kingmaker. </p>
<p>ghaladen at gmail.com </blockquote><p>I would be interested as well. My yahoo & gmail accounts are both NewJeffCT
<p>Thanks!!</p>ghaladen wrote:Same here I may run a 4e group through Kingmaker.
ghaladen at gmail.com
I would be interested as well. My yahoo & gmail accounts are both NewJeffCT Thanks!!NewJeffCT2011-04-04T22:19:03ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?ghaladenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#312011-04-01T20:32:13Z2011-04-01T20:32:13Z<p>Same here I may run a 4e group through Kingmaker. </p>
<p>ghaladen at gmail.com</p>Same here I may run a 4e group through Kingmaker.
ghaladen at gmail.comghaladen2011-04-01T20:32:13ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Cintra Bristolhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#302011-03-08T21:14:24Z2011-03-08T21:14:24Z<p>I'd love to receive these documents also.</p>
<p>cintrabristol at comcast.net</p>I'd love to receive these documents also.
cintrabristol at comcast.netCintra Bristol2011-03-08T21:14:24ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?daysofthekinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#292011-02-27T06:14:25Z2011-02-27T06:14:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Hye Roler wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">skrondo wrote:</div><blockquote> Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine. </blockquote><p>I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
</p>
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.</p>
<p>I have:
<br />
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random encounter table.</p>
<p>- MS Word Document 2: conversion of encounter areas.</p>
<p>By far, the most difficult conversions have been the fairie races (e.g. Nixies, Grigs, etc) as 4e doesn't seem to have ANY monsters that remotely resemble these (yet...). </blockquote>Hey there...I'd be very interested in your work. Much thanks! Yahoo Mail account. Hyefam </blockquote><p>Any documents y'all have accrued, I'd love to see them. I'm getting pumped about the same thing. Gmail account is theactionpoint.Hye Roler wrote:Banesfinger wrote: skrondo wrote: Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine.
I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.I have:
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random...daysoftheking2011-02-27T06:14:25ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Hye Rolerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#282011-02-22T15:48:28Z2011-02-22T15:48:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">skrondo wrote:</div><blockquote> Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine. </blockquote><p>I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
</p>
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.</p>
<p>I have:
<br />
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random encounter table.</p>
<p>- MS Word Document 2: conversion of encounter areas.</p>
<p>By far, the most difficult conversions have been the fairie races (e.g. Nixies, Grigs, etc) as 4e doesn't seem to have ANY monsters that remotely resemble these (yet...). </blockquote><p>Hey there...I'd be very interested in your work. Much thanks! Yahoo Mail account. HyefamBanesfinger wrote:skrondo wrote: Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine.
I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.I have:
- MS Word Document 1: a quick blurb on 4e races & gods, using skill challenges for exploring, and 4e conversion of the random encounter table.
- MS...Hye Roler2011-02-22T15:48:28ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?David McFarlandhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#272011-02-22T01:19:42Z2011-02-22T01:19:42Z<p>I am in the same boat as everyone else. If you could email the 4e conversions that would be great.</p>
<p>dmcf@awesometerrain.com</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>Question- Has anyone worked on any of the other mods in this series for 4e? (ex: Rivers Run Red)</p>I am in the same boat as everyone else. If you could email the 4e conversions that would be great.
dmcf@awesometerrain.com
Thanks again
Question- Has anyone worked on any of the other mods in this series for 4e? (ex: Rivers Run Red)David McFarland2011-02-22T01:19:42ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?AsmodeusDMhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#262011-02-18T18:42:37Z2011-02-18T18:42:37Z<p>Yes yes I too would be interested in your document particulary your part 1 : namely exploring as a skill challenge.</p>
<p>dmalcrap@gmail.com</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mythknight wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">z28camaro90 wrote:</div><blockquote> z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you </blockquote>Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. </blockquote><p>If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
</p>
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in converting this or other Pathfinder campaigns would help so much. Thank you.</p>
<p>gmail : skelly013 </blockquote><p>Yes yes I too would be interested in your document particulary your part 1 : namely exploring as a skill challenge.
dmalcrap@gmail.com
Mythknight wrote:Banesfinger wrote: z28camaro90 wrote: z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you
Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in...AsmodeusDM2011-02-18T18:42:37ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?AsmodeusDMhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#252011-02-18T18:42:25Z2011-02-18T18:42:25Z<p>Yes yes I too would be interested in your document particulary your part 1 : namely exploring as a skill challenge.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mythknight wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">z28camaro90 wrote:</div><blockquote> z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you </blockquote>Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. </blockquote><p>If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
</p>
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in converting this or other Pathfinder campaigns would help so much. Thank you.</p>
<p>gmail : skelly013 </blockquote><p>Yes yes I too would be interested in your document particulary your part 1 : namely exploring as a skill challenge.
Mythknight wrote:Banesfinger wrote: z28camaro90 wrote: z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you
Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in converting this or...AsmodeusDM2011-02-18T18:42:25ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Mythknighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#242011-01-10T23:41:22Z2011-01-10T23:41:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">z28camaro90 wrote:</div><blockquote> z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you </blockquote>Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. </blockquote><p>If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
</p>
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in converting this or other Pathfinder campaigns would help so much. Thank you.</p>
<p>gmail : skelly013</p>Banesfinger wrote:z28camaro90 wrote: z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you
Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy. If you are still working on this it would be a great read for me to check out. My new group just "volunteered" me to DM but they only play 4E :(
I ran this game a little while back but only made it through the first book. Any help in converting this or other Pathfinder campaigns would help so much. Thank you.gmail : skelly013Mythknight2011-01-10T23:41:22ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?FenixFire007https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#232010-12-03T10:30:06Z2010-12-03T10:30:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Berhagen wrote:</div><blockquote> She has a nice Ritual? </blockquote>After an exhaustive search of the 4e compendium (i.e.; charm, dominate, sleep, etc)...I haven't found any rituals like this...? </blockquote><p>The Succubus has a similar Power that can be sustained indefinitely (her charming kiss ability). It's not exactly what you're looking for, but it illustrates that certain monsters have unusual and powerful Powers. I'm with Berhagen, just make it up and say that they can do that sort of thing. Most players won't even question it. Most.Banesfinger wrote:Berhagen wrote: She has a nice Ritual?
After an exhaustive search of the 4e compendium (i.e.; charm, dominate, sleep, etc)...I haven't found any rituals like this...? The Succubus has a similar Power that can be sustained indefinitely (her charming kiss ability). It's not exactly what you're looking for, but it illustrates that certain monsters have unusual and powerful Powers. I'm with Berhagen, just make it up and say that they can do that sort of thing. Most players...FenixFire0072010-12-03T10:30:06ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?jjafullerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#222010-11-27T17:32:54Z2010-11-27T17:32:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">skrondo wrote:</div><blockquote> Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine. </blockquote><p>I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
</p>
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.
<br />
</blockquote><p>As much as I hate to resurrect an archived thread I am planning on starting up a 4e conversion of Kingmaker and did not see a more recent thread on the topic.
<p>Are you still running Kingmaker as 4e, or did you end up switching to Savage Worlds? Regardless I would like a copy of your conversion notes if possible. My email account is the same as my username at gmail.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>Banesfinger wrote:skrondo wrote: Berhagen and Banesfinger...it would be cool if you can pass your AT files to put in mine.
I'm not sure if it is against this forum's rules to leave e-mail addresses in a post?
If not, skrondo, z28camero90, (and anyone else) just mention your e-mail address in this thread and I'll e-mail you my conversion.
As much as I hate to resurrect an archived thread I am planning on starting up a 4e conversion of Kingmaker and did not see a more recent thread on the...jjafuller2010-11-27T17:32:54ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Berhagen (alias of Rob Vermeulen)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#212010-08-11T20:28:27Z2010-08-11T20:28:26Z<p>So? You are the GM, you can make it up......... additionally, 4E assumes that these types of abilities aren't handled by the (combat focused) statblocks.....</p>So? You are the GM, you can make it up......... additionally, 4E assumes that these types of abilities aren't handled by the (combat focused) statblocks.....Berhagen (alias of Rob Vermeulen)2010-08-11T20:28:26ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#202010-08-11T17:52:46Z2010-08-11T17:52:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Berhagen wrote:</div><blockquote> She has a nice Ritual? </blockquote><p>After an exhaustive search of the 4e compendium (i.e.; charm, dominate, sleep, etc)...I haven't found any rituals like this...?Berhagen wrote:She has a nice Ritual?
After an exhaustive search of the 4e compendium (i.e.; charm, dominate, sleep, etc)...I haven't found any rituals like this...?Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)2010-08-11T17:52:46ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Berhagen (alias of Rob Vermeulen)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#192010-08-11T13:15:35Z2010-08-11T13:15:34Z<p>She has a nice Ritual?</p>She has a nice Ritual?Berhagen (alias of Rob Vermeulen)2010-08-11T13:15:34ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#182010-08-10T18:04:07Z2010-08-10T18:04:07Z<p>I am now converting the 2nd adventure (River Runs Red).</p>
<p>Any suggestions on how to handle "Charm Person" in 4e?
<br />
Encounters like: The Grove of Tiressia, and A Delicate Situation, use this spell. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, there is no direct conversion of this low-level spell into 4e. Most of the 4e applications of charm powers last only a few rounds (save ends) and don't have the 1 hour/lvl duration needed to duplicate these encounters.</p>I am now converting the 2nd adventure (River Runs Red).
Any suggestions on how to handle "Charm Person" in 4e?
Encounters like: The Grove of Tiressia, and A Delicate Situation, use this spell.
Unfortunately, there is no direct conversion of this low-level spell into 4e. Most of the 4e applications of charm powers last only a few rounds (save ends) and don't have the 1 hour/lvl duration needed to duplicate these encounters.Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)2010-08-10T18:04:07ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#172010-08-06T04:12:41Z2010-08-06T04:12:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">z28camaro90 wrote:</div><blockquote> z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you </blockquote><p>Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy.z28camaro90 wrote:z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank you
Docs sent to you as well. Enjoy.Banesfinger (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16)2010-08-06T04:12:41ZRe: Forums: Kingmaker: 4e conversion?z28camaro90https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l284?4e-conversion#162010-08-06T02:31:29Z2010-08-06T02:31:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Banesfinger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">zoltar zoltar wrote:</div><blockquote><p> well I don't know if is possible to leave a public email
</p>
but if you are smart: my gmail adress is</p>
<p>zoltar55</p>
<p></blockquote>Documents sent. Enjoy. </blockquote><p>z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank youBanesfinger wrote:zoltar zoltar wrote:well I don't know if is possible to leave a public email
but if you are smart: my gmail adress iszoltar55
Documents sent. Enjoy. z28camaro90@hotmail.com Thank youz28camaro902010-08-06T02:31:29Z