paizo.com Recent Posts in Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratapaizo.com Recent Posts in Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Errata2015-01-31T10:11:43Z2015-01-31T10:11:43ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataShadowSpirithttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#342013-03-11T20:17:14Z2013-03-11T20:17:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ross Byers wrote:</div><blockquote> I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy. </blockquote><p>Argh.
<p>.... can anyone provide a link to the work without the art? It seems strange the fun police would show up and take down a link that promotes use of the very thing it's trying to sell.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>-SS</p>Ross Byers wrote:I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy.
Argh. .... can anyone provide a link to the work without the art? It seems strange the fun police would show up and take down a link that promotes use of the very thing it's trying to sell.
Thanks.
-SSShadowSpirit2013-03-11T20:17:14ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratasvedenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#332012-10-04T15:11:40Z2012-09-27T18:55:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">James Jacobs wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Andrew Betts wrote:</div><blockquote> Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog. </blockquote><p>Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one!
</p>
</blockquote><p>They did indeed miss that one.
<p>Since a riding dog and a wolf have pretty much identical stats, they should both be about the same difficulty to summon is my reasoning...</p>
<p>Ah well... hopefully something to errata in the next printing, I guess. Not that it's particularly game breaking as it stands... </blockquote><p>As indicated by James Jacobs above, in the 5th edition of the CRB the Riding Dog was removed from the Summon Monster 1 list and replaced with Dog.
<p>The errata still only mentions the above change being made to Summon Nature's Ally 1.</p>
<p>The Official <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/spells/summonMonster.html#_summon-monster-i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">PRD</a> also still contains this error.</p>
<p>Could this please be mentioned in the next round of FAQ answers so the majority of us who don't own the 5th printing of the book properly implement this change?</p>
<p><b>TL;DR</b> The hardcopy of the CRB says one thing, the digital version says another.</p>James Jacobs wrote:stuart haffenden wrote: Andrew Betts wrote: Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog.
Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one!
They did indeed miss that one. Since a riding dog and a wolf have pretty much identical stats, they should both be about the same difficulty to summon is my reasoning...
Ah well... hopefully something to errata in the next printing, I...sveden2012-09-27T18:55:39ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#322010-09-17T21:57:29Z2010-09-17T21:57:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ross Byers wrote:</div><blockquote> I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy. </blockquote><p>I think you've miss the boat here, I've had this [and previous] threads running for a year or so. If you scroll up even James has posted here without having any issues with my work.Ross Byers wrote:I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy.
I think you've miss the boat here, I've had this [and previous] threads running for a year or so. If you scroll up even James has posted here without having any issues with my work.stuart haffenden2010-09-17T21:57:29ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataRoss Byers (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#312010-09-17T21:34:16Z2010-09-17T21:34:16Z<p>I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy.</p>I've removed some links. Please don't redistribute Paizo's art unless its available under the Community Use Policy.Ross Byers (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32)2010-09-17T21:34:16ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#302010-09-17T17:03:33Z2010-09-17T17:03:33Z<p>Updated and new <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/houseRules/summonMonsterAllyAugmentedNewUpdatedBetterStrongerFaster" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> <b><span class=messageboard-ooc> HERE </span></b></a></p>Updated and new HEREstuart haffenden2010-09-17T17:03:33ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataFirewind42https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#292010-09-16T14:39:22Z2010-09-16T14:39:22Z<p>Correct me if I'm wrong, but...</p>
<p>From the PRD, Universal Monster Rules, Natural Attacks:
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"If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature's full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 the creature's Strength bonus on damage rolls."</p>
<p>Cross that with the Augment Summoning feat, which adds +4 Str.</p>
<p>The result should be that augmented creatures with only one attack should gain +3 instead of +2 on their damage rolls over their un-augmented counterparts. I noticed this when I was looking at the SM1 Dog entry; the damage for an augmented Dog is listed as 1d4+3, but with a 17 Strength (+3) and only one attack, wouldn't the damage be 1d4+4?</p>
<p>Just an observation. I haven't looked that closely at the other summons; I don't know if the problem is in that one entry or if it is more widespread.</p>Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
From the PRD, Universal Monster Rules, Natural Attacks:
"If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature's full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 the creature's Strength bonus on damage rolls."
Cross that with the Augment Summoning feat, which adds +4 Str.
The result should be that augmented creatures with only one attack should gain +3 instead of +2 on their damage rolls over their un-augmented counterparts. I noticed this...Firewind422010-09-16T14:39:22ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataStone the Crows (alias of stuart haffenden)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#282010-09-03T20:37:57Z2010-09-03T20:37:57Z<p>More bumps</p>More bumpsStone the Crows (alias of stuart haffenden)2010-09-03T20:37:57ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratatricky bob (alias of stuart haffenden)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#272010-08-21T18:12:05Z2010-08-21T18:12:04Z<p>Bump!</p>Bump!tricky bob (alias of stuart haffenden)2010-08-21T18:12:04ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#262010-08-07T09:23:36Z2010-08-07T09:23:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">ZomB wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote>Use these ones! </blockquote><p>Thanks. Very nice. I had just put together a really basic looking booklet of first level summons from the SRD and then I find this much, much prettier PDF. Doh.
<p>A humble request: I find the gold lettering on the Fiendish bits is very faint and hard to read when printed out. Any chance you could use a darker color? Red perhaps?
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</blockquote><p>Sorry about the colour problem but if you've worked with pdf's you'd know that a simple thing like that would take hours! If I get some free geek time maybe I'll have a look. I'm thinking Dark Green as Red is for SR.ZomB wrote:stuart haffenden wrote:Use these ones!
Thanks. Very nice. I had just put together a really basic looking booklet of first level summons from the SRD and then I find this much, much prettier PDF. Doh. A humble request: I find the gold lettering on the Fiendish bits is very faint and hard to read when printed out. Any chance you could use a darker color? Red perhaps?
Sorry about the colour problem but if you've worked with pdf's you'd know that a simple thing like that would take...stuart haffenden2010-08-07T09:23:35ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataZomBhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#252010-07-30T22:44:53Z2010-07-30T22:44:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote>Use these ones! </blockquote><p>Thanks. Very nice. I had just put together a really basic looking booklet of first level summons from the SRD and then I find this much, much prettier PDF. Doh.
<p>A humble request: I find the gold lettering on the Fiendish bits is very faint and hard to read when printed out. Any chance you could use a darker color? Red perhaps?</p>stuart haffenden wrote:Use these ones!
Thanks. Very nice. I had just put together a really basic looking booklet of first level summons from the SRD and then I find this much, much prettier PDF. Doh. A humble request: I find the gold lettering on the Fiendish bits is very faint and hard to read when printed out. Any chance you could use a darker color? Red perhaps?ZomB2010-07-30T22:44:52ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataStone the Crows (alias of stuart haffenden)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#242010-07-21T17:28:37Z2010-07-21T17:28:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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Summon Monster v1.1
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Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1</p>
<p></blockquote>Use these ones! </blockquote><p>Ok! [great stuff by the way, but then I would say that :)]stuart haffenden wrote:stuart haffenden wrote:
Summon Monster v1.1
Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1
Use these ones! Ok! [great stuff by the way, but then I would say that :)]Stone the Crows (alias of stuart haffenden)2010-07-21T17:28:37ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataErnest Muellerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#232010-07-12T01:48:24Z2010-07-12T01:48:24Z<p>Very nice, thanks for posting them!</p>Very nice, thanks for posting them!Ernest Mueller2010-07-12T01:48:24ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#222010-07-11T18:45:15Z2010-07-11T18:45:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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Summon Monster v1.1
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Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1</p>
<p></blockquote><p>Use these ones!stuart haffenden wrote:Summon Monster v1.1
Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1
Use these ones!stuart haffenden2010-07-11T18:45:15ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataSnorterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#212010-07-11T16:51:13Z2010-07-11T16:51:12Z<p><bump></p>
<p>Very useful; thank you indeed!</p>Very useful; thank you indeed!Snorter2010-07-11T16:51:12ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataIcarus Pheraehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#202010-07-11T12:52:39Z2010-07-11T12:52:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">stealthdrake wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Stuart,</p>
<p>Great job on these and as many have said, thanks for the hard work.</p>
<p>There do however seem to be a couple of missing monsters from the augmented summoning pdf.</p>
<p>III is missing
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Ant, Giant (soldier)
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Aurochs (herd animal)</p>
<p>IV is missing
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Ant, Giant (drone)
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Bison (herd animal)
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Deinonychus (dinosaur)</p>
<p>VI is missing
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Elasmosaurus (dinosaur)</p>
<p>Thanks again for the efforts. </blockquote><p>Yep, give me a good reason to include any of those less than exiting [or versatile] critters and I'll do it! :)
<p>Seriously though, would you ever summon one of those over the other options at that level? </blockquote><p>You mean other than the fact that some of those are dinosaurs? "I SUMMON NESSY!" :Pstuart haffenden wrote:stealthdrake wrote:Stuart,
Great job on these and as many have said, thanks for the hard work.
There do however seem to be a couple of missing monsters from the augmented summoning pdf.
III is missing
Ant, Giant (soldier)
Aurochs (herd animal)
IV is missing
Ant, Giant (drone)
Bison (herd animal)
Deinonychus (dinosaur)
VI is missing
Elasmosaurus (dinosaur)
Thanks again for the efforts.
Yep, give me a good reason to include any of those less than exiting [or...Icarus Pherae2010-07-11T12:52:39ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#192010-07-10T19:03:21Z2010-07-10T19:03:21Z<p>Summon Monster v1.1
<br />
]Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1</p>
<p>Changes...</p>
<p><b>I</b> [SM & SM {a}] as confirmed by James Jacobs above [thank you].
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Dog replaced Dog, Riding</p>
<p><b>III</b> [added to SM & SM {a}]
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Aurochs (herd animal)</p>
<p><b>III</b> [added to SM {a}]
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Ant, Giant (soldier) </p>
<p><b>IV</b> [added to SM & SM {a}]
<br />
Ant, Giant (drone)</p>
<p><b>IV</b> [added to SM {a}]
<br />
Bison (herd animal)
<br />
Deinonychus (dinosaur)</p>
<p><b>VI</b> [added to SM {a}]]
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Elasmosaurus (dinosaur)</p>
<p>Yet to do...
<br />
Add Darkvision to like everything!</p>Summon Monster v1.1
]Summon Monster [augmented] v1.1
Changes...
I [SM & SM {a}] as confirmed by James Jacobs above [thank you].
Dog replaced Dog, Riding
III [added to SM & SM {a}]
Aurochs (herd animal)
III [added to SM {a}]
Ant, Giant (soldier)
IV [added to SM & SM {a}]
Ant, Giant (drone)
IV [added to SM {a}]
Bison (herd animal)
Deinonychus (dinosaur)
VI [added to SM {a}]]
Elasmosaurus (dinosaur)
Yet to do...
Add Darkvision to like everything!stuart haffenden2010-07-10T19:03:21ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataEnthallohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#182010-07-10T01:30:05Z2010-07-10T01:30:04Z<p>To whom it may concern... download this...</p>
<p>BUMP!</p>To whom it may concern... download this...
BUMP!Enthallo2010-07-10T01:30:04ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataPeter Montgomeryhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#172010-07-10T01:05:17Z2010-07-10T01:05:15Z<p>Great job, Thank you</p>
<p>I do use the Auroch and Bison</p>
<p>because they do very good single target damage with 1 strike, esp when augmented</p>
<p>Auroch +7 to hit, 1d8 +7 damage, +9 if augmenteded, then slap on Bull's strength (which is redundant actually) and +11</p>
<p>great when you REALLY NEED TO HIT AND HIT HARD</p>
<p>My GM says in 20 years he has never had someone throw "Hamburger" at him, then my McDonalds Posterchild laid down some serious whoopa$$.
<br />
Now he knows "where's the beef"</p>
<p>In otherwords, please add them</p>Great job, Thank you
I do use the Auroch and Bison
because they do very good single target damage with 1 strike, esp when augmented
Auroch +7 to hit, 1d8 +7 damage, +9 if augmenteded, then slap on Bull's strength (which is redundant actually) and +11
great when you REALLY NEED TO HIT AND HIT HARD
My GM says in 20 years he has never had someone throw "Hamburger" at him, then my McDonalds Posterchild laid down some serious whoopa$$.
Now he knows "where's the beef"
In otherwords, please...Peter Montgomery2010-07-10T01:05:15ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataZark (alias of TomJohn)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#162010-07-08T04:43:17Z2010-07-08T04:43:16Z<p>Thanks!
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Great that you added Summon Monster with augment summoning].
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My cleric will be som much easier to play now :-)</p>Thanks!
Great that you added Summon Monster with augment summoning].
My cleric will be som much easier to play now :-)Zark (alias of TomJohn)2010-07-08T04:43:16ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataCyd the Arcmagi (alias of Stephen Ingram)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#152010-07-07T22:37:07Z2010-07-07T22:37:06Z<p>Well I was about to start my own thread to ask where I could find these. Thanks for making it easy for me :-)
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One of our new players will enjoy not having to do all that work before we play on Saturday.</p>Well I was about to start my own thread to ask where I could find these. Thanks for making it easy for me :-)
One of our new players will enjoy not having to do all that work before we play on Saturday.Cyd the Arcmagi (alias of Stephen Ingram)2010-07-07T22:37:06ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with ErrataJames Jacobs (Creative Director)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#142012-12-05T15:43:53Z2010-07-07T22:00:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">stuart haffenden wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Andrew Betts wrote:</div><blockquote> Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog. </blockquote><p>Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one!
</p>
</blockquote><p>They did indeed miss that one.
<p>Since a riding dog and a wolf have pretty much identical stats, they should both be about the same difficulty to summon is my reasoning...</p>
<p>Ah well... hopefully something to errata in the next printing, I guess. Not that it's particularly game breaking as it stands...</p>stuart haffenden wrote:Andrew Betts wrote: Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog.
Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one!
They did indeed miss that one. Since a riding dog and a wolf have pretty much identical stats, they should both be about the same difficulty to summon is my reasoning...
Ah well... hopefully something to errata in the next printing, I guess. Not that it's...James Jacobs (Creative Director)2010-07-07T22:00:41ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#132010-07-07T21:58:30Z2010-07-07T21:58:30Z<p>[shameless]bump[/shameless]</p>[shameless]bump[/shameless]stuart haffenden2010-07-07T21:58:30ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastealthdrakehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#122010-06-28T21:53:20Z2010-06-28T21:53:19Z<p>Real life getting in the way of gaming?!?!?</p>
<p>Actually that's awesome. Congratulations on the new arrival.</p>
<p>We will look forward to your inputs again in a couple of years when you get to catch up on some sleep ... ;)</p>Real life getting in the way of gaming?!?!?
Actually that's awesome. Congratulations on the new arrival.
We will look forward to your inputs again in a couple of years when you get to catch up on some sleep ... ;)stealthdrake2010-06-28T21:53:19ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastuart haffendenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#112010-06-28T20:01:54Z2010-06-28T20:01:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Andrew Betts wrote:</div><blockquote> Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog. </blockquote><p>Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one!
<p><b>stealthdrake</b> I know, I kinda wish I'd not missed them out but a certain Mr. Fox Dakota Haffenden, my 8 week old baby boy has changed my life somewhat and sadly it'll have to wait some!</p>Andrew Betts wrote:Looks good, although one small comment, somewhere James said the Riding Dog in SMI should just be a Dog.
Not according to the recent errata-ed updated Core rulebook unless they missed that one! stealthdrake I know, I kinda wish I'd not missed them out but a certain Mr. Fox Dakota Haffenden, my 8 week old baby boy has changed my life somewhat and sadly it'll have to wait some!stuart haffenden2010-06-28T20:01:53ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Summon Monster/Ally .pdf's with Erratastealthdrakehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kw2u?Summon-MonsterAlly-pdfs-with-Errata#102010-06-28T01:37:15Z2010-06-28T01:37:15Z<p>Since you have done such a good job was simply looking for completeness. You never know what kind of weird situation can arise during a game.</p>Since you have done such a good job was simply looking for completeness. You never know what kind of weird situation can arise during a game.stealthdrake2010-06-28T01:37:15Z