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I was reading through Fingerprints of the Fiend to try to get some ideas and it left me a little confused. This is the first adventure I've read and I had some questions.

In creature stat blocks, what is GRP?

One creature has

Zahur wrote:

During Combat: Overconfident, Zahur uses Power Attack

relentlessly. He prefers to fight other strong combatants to
prove his manhood. He selects anyone who’s managed to get
behind him as his Dodge target each round.

written in its tactics section. What does that mean? I thought the dodge feat only gave +1 AC.

And why is there no CMB or CMD listed for any creatures?


Waffle_Neutral wrote:

I was reading through Fingerprints of the Fiend to try to get some ideas and it left me a little confused. This is the first adventure I've read and I had some questions.

In creature stat blocks, what is GRP?

One creature has

Zahur wrote:

During Combat: Overconfident, Zahur uses Power Attack

relentlessly. He prefers to fight other strong combatants to
prove his manhood. He selects anyone who’s managed to get
behind him as his Dodge target each round.

written in its tactics section. What does that mean? I thought the dodge feat only gave +1 AC.

And why is there no CMB or CMD listed for any creatures?

In 3.5 dodge was a +1 ac only vs 1 opponent. If there is no CMB/CMD listed it sounds like a 3.5 statblock. you will have to calculate them normally using the regular way in the PFRPG book.


GRP meant Grapple-bonus in 3.5.


Rathendar wrote:
Waffle_Neutral wrote:

I was reading through Fingerprints of the Fiend to try to get some ideas and it left me a little confused. This is the first adventure I've read and I had some questions.

In creature stat blocks, what is GRP?

One creature has

Zahur wrote:

During Combat: Overconfident, Zahur uses Power Attack

relentlessly. He prefers to fight other strong combatants to
prove his manhood. He selects anyone who’s managed to get
behind him as his Dodge target each round.

written in its tactics section. What does that mean? I thought the dodge feat only gave +1 AC.

And why is there no CMB or CMD listed for any creatures?

In 3.5 dodge was a +1 ac only vs 1 opponent.

and you had to designate that opponent

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Sothmektri wrote:
Rathendar wrote:
Waffle_Neutral wrote:

I was reading through Fingerprints of the Fiend to try to get some ideas and it left me a little confused. This is the first adventure I've read and I had some questions.

In creature stat blocks, what is GRP?

One creature has

Zahur wrote:

During Combat: Overconfident, Zahur uses Power Attack

relentlessly. He prefers to fight other strong combatants to
prove his manhood. He selects anyone who’s managed to get
behind him as his Dodge target each round.

written in its tactics section. What does that mean? I thought the dodge feat only gave +1 AC.

And why is there no CMB or CMD listed for any creatures?

In 3.5 dodge was a +1 ac only vs 1 opponent.
and you had to designate that opponent

...and if you don't you lose the feat...

sorry about the joke. I couldn't help myself.


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And thus Pathfinder made Dodge a pretty respectable feat...unlike in 3.5 where it was a below average feat picked up on the road to other things, and, frankly, just annoying to have to use.

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More explicitly:

The adventure you're reading was written before the most recent version of the Core Rules, so a few of the monster stats are out of date. You'll need to calculate CMB and CMD, but can ignore references to Dodge needing a target. (For Medium creatures, the old Gpl number should be the same as CMB. For other monsters, calculate CMB normally and ignore Gpl.)

Consider grabbing the offical conversion document that's available on this site somewhere. That'll tell you how the monster stats from older adventures have changed.

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Waffle_Neutral wrote:
I was reading through Fingerprints of the Fiend...

Note that the Pathfinder Society Season 0 scenarios were designed for 3.5. Pathfinder Society Scenarios weren't designed specifically for the Pathfinder RPG until Season 1.


Yikes! Did we actually forget to mention that little detail? My mind is going...

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