Movies that don't get enough respect


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Bill Dunn wrote:
I like the Ralph Bakshi version of Lord of the Rings. I know it's not finished, it's unpolished, and all that. But I still really like it.

TOTALLY

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Sothmektri wrote:
Recently, a film called 'Moon', starring Sam Rockwell, knocked my socks off. Not many people seem to have seen it. Best thing I've seen in awhile.

I've seen it, that and District 9 are my favorite scifi movies of 2009. The director is making another movie that takes place in the same world, not a direct sequel, though supposedly Sam Rockwell's character will make an appearance.


'La cité des enfants perdus' is a wonderful fantasy-ish film starring Ron Perlman (Hellboy) and a few actors that will later play again together in Alien 4 (the wheelchair guy anyways).

I'm not sure if it ever got translated in English but if it did, I strongly encourage anyone to see it.


Laurefindel wrote:

'La cité des enfants perdus' is a wonderful fantasy-ish film starring Ron Perlman (Hellboy) and a few actors that will later play again together in Alien 4 (the wheelchair guy anyways).

I'm not sure if it ever got translated in English but if it did, I strongly encourage anyone to see it.

I'm pretty sure the version I saw, years ago, was in English. It's listed at Borders.com, and at iTunes.

For my part, I can't get enough of Swimming with Sharks or of Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead.

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I can think of a few....to add

"Dogma" heck half the people I know never heard of it...

"Hudson Hawk"....i mean c'mon Sandra Bernhard was actually entertaining in that flick and everyone had a candybar name...awesomeness...
Plus its a movie with David Caruso that i really liked...of course his character didnt say anything...

"Payback"...Mel Gibson at his finest, except in the early "Lethal Weapon" movies (1&2)


Heh, I admit to liking Captain Ron. Kurt Russell, man! And Martin Short!!!

Starship Troopers is well-known, but NOT respected amongst many of my friends, hell any Heinlein fan I've ever heard from. Michael Ironside, Dina Meyer, Clancy Brown, Jake Busey, are all great and yes, very cheesy at times. Music by Basil Poledouris, he of Conan fame.
"Do you want to know more?"

The Company of Wolves is not widely known, AFAIK, but when I watched it many years ago, I was GLUED to the screen. Really made an impression.
Sarah Patterson.
Angela Lansbury.
Anton Furst's set design blew my mind. For a while afterwards, I went a little bit loopy preaching its brilliance to one and all.

Blind Fury is, of course, simply awesome.

And before I forget, I reaaaaaaally dug Dagon!


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Nube Negra wrote:
Starship Troopers is well-known, but NOT respected amongst many of my friends, hell any Heinlein fan I've ever heard from.

There's a reason for that.

It could have been a superb movie, if the screenplay had been closer to the novel (voice-over narration in the style of Goodfellas, more focus on the central themes of citizenship and service, better character development). The novel actually should have been much easier to convert to film than something like Battlefield Earth, Dune, or Lord of the Rings. Instead it's a generic FX flick with a thin gloss of Heinlein (mostly in the first 10-15 minutes).

Read the book, think of how it could have been adapted, and compare it to the actual movie.

However, I will give credit that there are some elements in the film that are logical adaptations of modern society's views on gender roles (co-ed training and facilities) as opposed to when the novel was written/published (the 1960's). Actually, Heinlein was quite progressive for the time, in that he had women in command roles (i.e., starship captains).


Dragonchess Player wrote:
Nube Negra wrote:
Starship Troopers is well-known, but NOT respected amongst many of my friends, hell any Heinlein fan I've ever heard from.

There's a reason for that.

It could have been a superb movie, if the screenplay had been closer to the novel (voice-over narration in the style of Goodfellas, more focus on the central themes of citizenship and service, better character development). The novel actually should have been much easier to convert to film than something like Battlefield Earth, Dune, or Lord of the Rings. Instead it's a generic FX flick with a thin gloss of Heinlein (mostly in the first 10-15 minutes).

Read the book, think of how it could have been adapted, and compare it to the actual movie.

However, I will give credit that there are some elements in the film that are logical adaptations of modern society's views on gender roles (co-ed training and facilities) as opposed to when the novel was written/published (the 1960's). Actually, Heinlein was quite progressive for the time, in that he had women in command roles (i.e., starship captains).

I love the "propaganda" feel of Starship Troopers, though I realize the movie was not close to being what the book was, but then again, having a squad walk 1/2 a mile apart lobbing mini nukes isn't a very good movie...


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I've seen few movies as unfairly savaged by critics and audiences as Speed Racer, which is far better than the crappy old cartoon (you can balk, but it's true.....). Granted, you need high tolerance for sensory overload, but what American under 35 doesn't have that now?

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Hmm, does the Dune Miniseries (shown on Sci-Fi) count? I thought it was much more loyal to the book, and if you watch the uncut version, the emperor's daughter shows the deviousness we see in Children of Dune.

@winter_soldier. Thanks for making me feel old. :P

I'd also add the second D&D movie. I think it's good for a B movie, and a lot better on the gamer references than the theatrical one.

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Scipion del Ferro wrote:
What Dreams May Come is a personal favorite of mine that people tend to dislike and I have no idea why.

My vote.


"The Last Dragon"
It has some of the best movie quotes EVER in that movie. Some great action scenes, great music (80s), some cheesy/silly scenes that make me laugh, some romance, some family/devotion scenes, some scenes that make you angry.

I hear they are remaking it, but how can you do better than the original Sho'Nuff? You can't.

"What Dreams May Come" was never popular because it was scary and freaky as hell. It was very well done in that sense. I saw that in the theatres and I can't remember much of it, but it was a mind trip and it wasn't that happy from what I remember. Memorable... but you kind of want to forget in a way. At least that's how it was for me.

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I was just reminded today of Firewalker with Chuck Norris and Louis Gosset Jr. Sure its hoakey but its an old favorite of mine.


Whoa, hold on, if we are going to bring Chuck Norris into this, I have to nominate Silent Rage. The bad guy in that movie is creepy.

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Just watched Demolition Man. Not a bad movie if you can get past the cheese.

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Wicht wrote:
I was just reminded today of Firewalker with Chuck Norris and Louis Gosset Jr. Sure its hoakey but its an old favorite of mine.

Loved that movie! I so wanted a sequel.

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TheWhiteknife wrote:
Whoa, hold on, if we are going to bring Chuck Norris into this, I have to nominate Silent Rage. The bad guy in that movie is creepy.

Chucks best movie.

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Jason S wrote:

"The Last Dragon"

It has some of the best movie quotes EVER in that movie. Some great action scenes, great music (80s), some cheesy/silly scenes that make me laugh, some romance, some family/devotion scenes, some scenes that make you angry.

I hear they are remaking it, but how can you do better than the original Sho'Nuff? You can't.

I hear Samuel Jackson is interested in the role. I'd say that's better than the original.

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Jason S wrote:

"The Last Dragon"

It has some of the best movie quotes EVER in that movie. Some great action scenes, great music (80s), some cheesy/silly scenes that make me laugh, some romance, some family/devotion scenes, some scenes that make you angry.

I hear they are remaking it, but how can you do better than the original Sho'Nuff? You can't.

I'm gonna leave this right here.

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The Thirteenth Floor was surprisingly cool, but I'm a sucker for stuff that plays around with a '20s or '30s ish atmosphere (even if, like Blade Runner, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with that actual time period).

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TheWhiteknife wrote:

Waynes World 2.

"in the event of capture, you will each be issued a cyanide capsule, to be placed under the tongue like so. Any questions?" makes me laugh every time.

+1


Vigil wrote:
Jason S wrote:

"The Last Dragon"

It has some of the best movie quotes EVER in that movie. Some great action scenes, great music (80s), some cheesy/silly scenes that make me laugh, some romance, some family/devotion scenes, some scenes that make you angry.

I hear they are remaking it, but how can you do better than the original Sho'Nuff? You can't.

I hear Samuel Jackson is interested in the role. I'd say that's better than the original.

Sam Jackson is WAY to old to play Sho Nuff. Its all high school kids. Sho Nuff and his gang were young punks. Sam Jackson playing a teen would be weird to say the least, and making him older would ruin who the character is.


As for mine.

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Daredevil, Punisher: War Zone, and Starship Troopers were all really awesome movies that I was stunned to learn the general public at large didnt like.

The Narnia movies to actually. I loved LWatW and Prince Caspian. Most other people were meh about them. Disney isnt even backing the 3rd one due out Christmas time.

And I read Starship Troopers after seeing the movie. The tounge in cheek and all the battles with bugs werent in it. I was actually really disssapointed and ST became for me one of the infinitly small examples of when a movie is better than a book.

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Bewitched.

While it didn't succeed, I give it credit for not taking the 'remake the original' approach. I liked the idea of it being a movie about making a movie about a remake.

Plus being older, I love Endora in the original series more and more.

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Jason Grubiak wrote:
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Daredevil, Punisher: War Zone and Starship Troopers were all really awesome movies that I was stunned to learn the general public at large didnt like.

Starship Troopers I alternately loved and hated. And I'm pretty sure that was the intent of making the 'good-guys' so deliciously fascist.

Sky Captain was cute, but not as good as I was hoping for, being a huge pulp goob.

Daredevil was a hell of a lot better than Elektra, I'll give it that. :) Actually, I think it worked better for what it was attempting to do than either of the last two massively overhyped Batman movies. Daredevil was sucked down by the void-of-endless-suck that is Ben Affleck's inability to emote and Colin Farrel's way, way, way over-the-top Bullseye (who seemed to be channeling either Deadpool or giggling Hyena-henchman #3 from The Lion King, at times).

I liked the Dolph Lundgen Punisher movie better than the Thomas Jayne one. Ninjas trump John Travolta as bad-guys any day of the week.

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Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins

I never read any of the books this was based on so I didn't experience any of the impotent rage felt by fans of The Destroyer series when this came out. Instead, I got to enjoy Fred Ward kicking a55 and the future Captain Kathryn Janeway, Kate Mulgrew, getting berated by a skinny white dude playing a smart-mouthed, misogynistic, Korean ninja master. This was supposed to be the beginning of a franchise but it bombed at the box office and, after a subsequent failed TV pilot, Remo's adventures were pretty much over. However, Columbia Pictures recently announced they have plans for a new Remo Williams movie so fans of the books will have something new to hate.

Eliminators

"We've got robots. We've got cavemen. We've got kung-fu! What is this? Some sort of comic book?"

No. It's basically GURPS: The Movie and, as bad as it is, it's actually a lot of fun. It also features another member of the Star Trek family, Denise Crosby who played Lt. Tasha Yar in TNG.

Iceman

This movie needs some sort of revival (pun intended.)


Monday. A guy wakes up in a hotelroom and can't remember who he is, or what he has done. From "clues" found in the room he starts to remember...
A comedy/action movie :)

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