paizo.com Recent Posts in Faction T-Shirtspaizo.com Recent Posts in Faction T-Shirts2012-11-15T22:33:23Z2012-11-15T22:33:23ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsEric Clingenpeelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#962012-06-02T14:58:21Z2012-06-02T14:58:21Z<p>For those that aren't aware, Wil Wheaton has a bi-weekly webseries called Table Top where he plays board games with geek-celebrities. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6oMBSiL7Zs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Last night's</a> was Munchkin. He played with Felicia Day, Sandeep Parikh, and <b>Steve Jackson himself</b>.</p>For those that aren't aware, Wil Wheaton has a bi-weekly webseries called Table Top where he plays board games with geek-celebrities. Last night's was Munchkin. He played with Felicia Day, Sandeep Parikh, and Steve Jackson himself.Eric Clingenpeel2012-06-02T14:58:21ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#952012-06-02T04:38:22Z2012-06-02T04:38:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Daniel Luckett wrote:</div><blockquote> The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion. </blockquote><p>Munchkin was the "gateway drug" that lead my children into Pathfinder! I approve!Daniel Luckett wrote:The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion.
Munchkin was the "gateway drug" that lead my children into Pathfinder! I approve!Arnim Thayer2012-06-02T04:38:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsJohnFhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#942012-06-01T18:07:48Z2012-06-01T18:07:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Daniel Luckett wrote:</div><blockquote> The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion. </blockquote><p>I know what you mean - in fact my reaction, when I first saw a Munchkin bobblehead, was "At last! A totally appropriate out-of-game benefit!"
<p>But while I've been at tables where faction shirts are being word, I've only seen rerolls on a couple of occasions. As long as players regard them as somewhat akin to a reserve parachute, not an every-session device, I don't have a real problem with them.</p>Daniel Luckett wrote:The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion.
I know what you mean - in fact my reaction, when I first saw a Munchkin bobblehead, was "At last! A totally appropriate out-of-game benefit!" But while I've been at tables where faction shirts are being word, I've only seen...JohnF2012-06-01T18:07:48ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsDan Luckett (alias of ThornDJL7)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#932012-06-01T15:58:25Z2012-06-01T15:58:25Z<p>To give some basis on my love of munchkin. I own multiple shirts, and also have made currently 6 of the "anti-curse" masks.</p>To give some basis on my love of munchkin. I own multiple shirts, and also have made currently 6 of the "anti-curse" masks.Dan Luckett (alias of ThornDJL7)2012-06-01T15:58:25ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#922012-06-01T15:51:26Z2012-06-01T15:51:26Z<p>wow... day three of a con and one munchkin turns to another. "I'm leaving early guy - my rides gotta get home. You can have my socks for the last game" sits down removing shoes. "Gee - thanks guy!"</p>
<p>EEWWW! does not carry enough reaction!</p>wow... day three of a con and one munchkin turns to another. "I'm leaving early guy - my rides gotta get home. You can have my socks for the last game" sits down removing shoes. "Gee - thanks guy!"
EEWWW! does not carry enough reaction!nosig2012-06-01T15:51:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsDan Luckett (alias of ThornDJL7)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#912012-06-01T15:47:47Z2012-06-01T15:47:47Z<p>The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion.</p>The longer this thread goes on, the more I feel like I'm discussing Munchkin. Which is a game I love, but the more I think about buying bonuses (Socks and such), the more sour a taste it leaves in my mouth regarding PFSRPG. Just my personal opinion.Dan Luckett (alias of ThornDJL7)2012-06-01T15:47:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#902012-06-01T13:33:15Z2012-06-01T13:33:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Todd Lower wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Charlie Bell wrote:</div><blockquote> Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those. </blockquote>Absolutely not!! I already object to those that wear the same T-shirt for 3 days at a con. Can you imagine socks worn for three days. Yech. :-) </blockquote><p>wait... then some players will be pulling them off and wadding them up on the table... Ewwww!Todd Lower wrote:Charlie Bell wrote: Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.
Absolutely not!! I already object to those that wear the same T-shirt for 3 days at a con. Can you imagine socks worn for three days. Yech. :-) wait... then some players will be pulling them off and wadding them up on the table... Ewwww!nosig2012-06-01T13:33:15ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsTodd Lowerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#892012-06-01T11:50:19Z2012-06-01T11:50:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Charlie Bell wrote:</div><blockquote> Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those. </blockquote><p>Absolutely not!! I already object to those that wear the same T-shirt for 3 days at a con. Can you imagine socks worn for three days. Yech. :-)Charlie Bell wrote:Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.
Absolutely not!! I already object to those that wear the same T-shirt for 3 days at a con. Can you imagine socks worn for three days. Yech. :-)Todd Lower2012-06-01T11:50:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsJohnFhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#882012-05-31T16:41:11Z2012-05-31T16:41:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Charlie Bell wrote:</div><blockquote> Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those. </blockquote><p>You only have one 'boots' or 'hand' slot, so you wouldn't get two rerolls from a pair of boots or gloves. And the bonus wouldn't stack, anyway.Charlie Bell wrote:Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.
You only have one 'boots' or 'hand' slot, so you wouldn't get two rerolls from a pair of boots or gloves. And the bonus wouldn't stack, anyway.JohnF2012-05-31T16:41:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#872012-05-31T13:46:35Z2012-05-31T13:46:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Michael Brock wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt... </blockquote>We use GM in Pathfinder ;-) </blockquote><p>drat! ouch! Yessir!
<p>(showing my age again....sorry! I do use "judge" for all the person running the table thou..., so I'm not used to GM or DM or any of them "M" things)</p>Michael Brock wrote:nosig wrote:I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt...
We use GM in Pathfinder ;-) drat! ouch! Yessir! (showing my age again....sorry! I do use "judge" for all the person running the table thou..., so I'm not used to GM or DM or any of them "M" things)nosig2012-05-31T13:46:35ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsMichael Brockhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#862012-05-31T03:06:00Z2012-05-31T03:06:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt... </blockquote><p>We use GM in Pathfinder ;-)nosig wrote:I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt...
We use GM in Pathfinder ;-)Michael Brock2012-05-31T03:06:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsTwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#852012-05-31T00:26:09Z2012-05-31T00:26:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kyle Baird wrote:</div><blockquote>I insist on them wearing it in a ridiculous fashion and keep it on the rest of the scenario. Seems fair enough to me.</blockquote><p>Since I would excuse myself and return wearing them as boxers, I do not expect anyone to willingly share their faction shirt with me ;-)Kyle Baird wrote:I insist on them wearing it in a ridiculous fashion and keep it on the rest of the scenario. Seems fair enough to me.
Since I would excuse myself and return wearing them as boxers, I do not expect anyone to willingly share their faction shirt with me ;-)TwilightKnight2012-05-31T00:26:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsW. Kristoph Nolenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#842012-05-30T15:09:32Z2012-05-30T15:09:32Z<p>I'd pay for a Pathfinder Logo/Szcarni faction Visa card, that's for sure!
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Now <i>•THAT's•</i> advertising!</p>I'd pay for a Pathfinder Logo/Szcarni faction Visa card, that's for sure!
Now *THAT's* advertising!W. Kristoph Nolen2012-05-30T15:09:32ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#832012-05-30T14:58:43Z2012-05-30T14:58:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Charlie Bell wrote:</div><blockquote> Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those. </blockquote><p>Michael Jackson only had on one sock?
<p>(LOL!)</p>Charlie Bell wrote:Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.
Michael Jackson only had on one sock? (LOL!)nosig2012-05-30T14:58:43ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsCharlie Bell (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#822012-05-30T14:36:06Z2012-05-30T14:36:06Z<p>Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.</p>Faction socks. That way we can get 2 rerolls. Faction gloves, too. Michael Jackson only gets one reroll from those.Charlie Bell (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16)2012-05-30T14:36:06ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsKyle Bairdhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#812012-05-30T14:31:56Z2012-05-30T14:31:56Z<p>Believe it or not, I'm actually less strict than Bob on this. I let people pull them out at their time of need, and even pass extra shirts around the table. The only stipulation is that they wear the shirt. Some how. If they don't wear it normally, then I insist on them wearing it in a ridiculous fashion and keep it on the rest of the scenario. Seems fair enough to me.</p>Believe it or not, I'm actually less strict than Bob on this. I let people pull them out at their time of need, and even pass extra shirts around the table. The only stipulation is that they wear the shirt. Some how. If they don't wear it normally, then I insist on them wearing it in a ridiculous fashion and keep it on the rest of the scenario. Seems fair enough to me.Kyle Baird2012-05-30T14:31:56ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#802012-05-30T14:24:28Z2012-05-30T14:24:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Care Baird wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote>just give them away on whims (perhaps to persons who have PCs die at my table? that would be an idea for Kyle - errr - no that could get expensive for Kyle)</blockquote>It'd make more sense to give them to PCs who •survive• my table.. </blockquote><p>and some would think cheaper too... (not having ever had the pleasure of gaming for you, I can not give first hand knowledge either way...)
<p>But hay, you might consider giving out (selling?) patches....
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hmmm... you know, maybe I'll do that to. Anyone know where we can get patches (like military unit patchs) made?</p>Care Baird wrote:nosig wrote:just give them away on whims (perhaps to persons who have PCs die at my table? that would be an idea for Kyle - errr - no that could get expensive for Kyle)
It'd make more sense to give them to PCs who *survive* my table.. and some would think cheaper too... (not having ever had the pleasure of gaming for you, I can not give first hand knowledge either way...) But hay, you might consider giving out (selling?) patches....
hmmm... you know, maybe I'll do that to....nosig2012-05-30T14:24:28ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsgodsDMit (alias of Disturbed1)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#792012-05-30T14:23:05Z2012-05-30T14:23:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Michael VonHasseln wrote:</div><blockquote> I ask only because my wife has been very crafty about turning older... </blockquote><p>I was a little worried about where this sentence was going, lol. I almost spit my drink all over my computer.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote> I have a faction T-shirt (regretably for a faction I do not have a character for, but hay, it fit when I bought it). Like many of my used T-shirts it shrank a bit... so it's snug. </blockquote><p>I would give you a reroll for this. I feel for you. :/Michael VonHasseln wrote:I ask only because my wife has been very crafty about turning older...
I was a little worried about where this sentence was going, lol. I almost spit my drink all over my computer. nosig wrote:I have a faction T-shirt (regretably for a faction I do not have a character for, but hay, it fit when I bought it). Like many of my used T-shirts it shrank a bit... so it's snug.
I would give you a reroll for this. I feel for you. :/godsDMit (alias of Disturbed1)2012-05-30T14:23:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsCare Baird (alias of Kyle Baird)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#782012-05-30T14:13:10Z2012-05-30T14:13:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote>just give them away on whims (perhaps to persons who have PCs die at my table? that would be an idea for Kyle - errr - no that could get expensive for Kyle)</blockquote><p>It'd make more sense to give them to PCs who •survive• my table..nosig wrote:just give them away on whims (perhaps to persons who have PCs die at my table? that would be an idea for Kyle - errr - no that could get expensive for Kyle)
It'd make more sense to give them to PCs who *survive* my table..Care Baird (alias of Kyle Baird)2012-05-30T14:13:10ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#772012-07-25T22:37:34Z2012-05-30T13:56:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Saint Caleth wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">harmor wrote:</div><blockquote> Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright. </blockquote><p>ouch! ok... now I have a problem.
<p>I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was thinking of having some more made to give away... Am in in violation of copyright? do I need to ditch the T-shirts?</p>
<p>I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt... </blockquote><p>The problem is the pictures in this case. You can sell anything you want with rules text since the OGL makes it public domain.
<p>It's an arbitrary seeming rule, but thats just how copyright works. Its the same reason that we can't prep an adventure in maptool and then pass the file off to help other DMs who are going to run it. </blockquote><p>ah... thanks (I think).
<p>Not being a member of the legal profession, I was not sure of this. and it concerned me a little (on possible ethical grounds). </p>
<p>Not that I intend to sell the shirts, just give them away on whims (perhaps to persons who have PCs die at my table? that would be an idea for Kyle - errr - no that could get expensive for Kyle). The original idea would have been to give them out on a strickly sexist basis, to select individuals, providing an excuse to stare at someones shirt: "errr... I'm just reading the T 10 rule! really!".</p>Saint Caleth wrote:nosig wrote: harmor wrote: Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright.
ouch! ok... now I have a problem. I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was...nosig2012-05-30T13:56:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsSaint Calethhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#762012-05-30T13:44:11Z2012-05-30T13:44:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">nosig wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">harmor wrote:</div><blockquote> Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright. </blockquote><p>ouch! ok... now I have a problem.
<p>I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was thinking of having some more made to give away... Am in in violation of copyright? do I need to ditch the T-shirts?</p>
<p>I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt... </blockquote><p>The problem is the pictures in this case. You can sell anything you want with rules text since the OGL makes it public domain.
<p>It's an arbitrary seeming rule, but thats just how copyright works. Its the same reason that we can't prep an adventure in maptool and then pass the file off to help other DMs who are going to run it.</p>nosig wrote:harmor wrote: Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright.
ouch! ok... now I have a problem. I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was thinking of having...Saint Caleth2012-05-30T13:44:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsnosighttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#752012-05-30T13:37:46Z2012-05-30T13:37:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">harmor wrote:</div><blockquote> Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright. </blockquote><p>ouch! ok... now I have a problem.
<p>I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was thinking of having some more made to give away... Am in in violation of copyright? do I need to ditch the T-shirts?</p>
<p>I may just switch to a "Mike is my DM" shirt...</p>harmor wrote:Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright.
ouch! ok... now I have a problem. I had 2 T shirts made with the Take 10 rule on them... no images, just the text from the CRB (word for word). I have no intention of SELLING them, but I was thinking of having some more made...nosig2012-05-30T13:37:46ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-Shirtsharmorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#742012-05-30T01:54:04Z2012-05-30T01:54:04Z<p>Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright.</p>Just an FYI for those thinking of creating their own shirts and making them for sale using CUP images ... you can't do it because even if you don't make money (no markup), the third-party company who makes the shirts does and thus will violate the copyright.harmor2012-05-30T01:54:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsCuraighhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#732012-05-29T20:18:32Z2012-05-29T20:18:32Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:</div><blockquote><p> OMG. I know thatitwould never happen, but, a transfer tattoo would've SO cool! They could make a lot of money with that! It'd be a one use item pretty much. It would last not more than a single weekend at a Con, and there'd be a garaunteed resale. There'd be so much fun seeing all of the tattoos that people had on! Just like all od the patches mentioned above! </p>
<p>But there's all KINDS. Of things that could be made instead of tshirts, in addition to them. </blockquote><p>I will bump my patch idea, I have a couple on my bag already. :) Temp tattoos are a GREAT idea, and they go with the festive mood of a fair (con?) I would require you were it visibly though, no belly ink :)W. Kristoph Nolen wrote:OMG. I know thatitwould never happen, but, a transfer tattoo would've SO cool! They could make a lot of money with that! It'd be a one use item pretty much. It would last not more than a single weekend at a Con, and there'd be a garaunteed resale. There'd be so much fun seeing all of the tattoos that people had on! Just like all od the patches mentioned above!
But there's all KINDS. Of things that could be made instead of tshirts, in addition to them.
I will bump my...Curaigh2012-05-29T20:18:32ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Faction T-ShirtsShivokhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kob5&page=2?Faction-TShirts#722012-05-29T03:44:24Z2012-05-29T03:44:24Z<p>I made a few Risen Rune T-shirts for Kublacon, but I had to divert them to Origins due to shipping date availability.</p>
<p>A coin would not serve to market PFS as most of the times a player would only see that during a PFS game so it defeats the marketing purpose.</p>
<p>The only issue I see with T-shirts is the color of the old factions (some are horrible). I toyed around with making color Iron-ons to spruce up the one's I have.</p>
<p>Hopefully we can keep comig up with ideas for new products that can meet the 'marketing' purpose and the 'cool' purpose as well as the re-roll.</p>I made a few Risen Rune T-shirts for Kublacon, but I had to divert them to Origins due to shipping date availability.
A coin would not serve to market PFS as most of the times a player would only see that during a PFS game so it defeats the marketing purpose.
The only issue I see with T-shirts is the color of the old factions (some are horrible). I toyed around with making color Iron-ons to spruce up the one's I have.
Hopefully we can keep comig up with ideas for new products that can meet...Shivok2012-05-29T03:44:24Z